A quest of many years!

Started by pjme, January 30, 2017, 05:50:46 AM

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Mr. Demolder from Belgiuml apparently is looking for this violin+ orchestra work for more than 50 years! He'll be 86 soon and hopes to find this long lost (but never forgotten) melody.
It is not the slow movement from Mendelssohs violin concerto, nor the Méditation de  Thais...
It definitely is a rather popular work : he remembers having heard it on an 78 rpm and was discouraged by his musicteacher to learn it: This is nothing for you, it is too difficumt...

Any ideas?

Peter

Cato

Quote from: pjme on January 30, 2017, 05:50:46 AM
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Mr. Demolder from Belgiuml apparently is looking for this violin+ orchestra work for more than 50 years! He'll be 86 soon and hopes to find this long lost (but never forgotten) melody.
It is not the slow movement from Mendelssohs violin concerto, nor the Méditation de  Thais...
It definitely is a rather popular work : he remembers having heard it on an 78 rpm and was discouraged by his musicteacher to learn it: This is nothing for you, it is too difficumt...

Any ideas?

Peter

Is it too obvious - since the man is from Belgium - to suggest the concerti of Vieuxtemps, Ysaye, and de Beriot as a starting point?

I have not heard all of them by any means, but the Adagio of the Vieuxtemps Violin Concerto has a melody similar to what he is remembering.  And who knows how reliable his memory may be?
"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

pjme

Many thanks! Ill keep you informed.
And indeed - after so many years his memory easily could be ..rather unreliable.

Peter

Brian

I am 100% certain I have heard this before. Let me do some checking...

Brian

Yes, it is Henri Vieuxtemps' Violin Concerto No. 5 in A minor, "Gretry"

pjme

Many thanks. I'm waiting for a reply from mr. Demolder's family...

Au revoir,

Peter

Cato

Quote from: Brian on March 03, 2017, 07:22:59 AM
Yes, it is Henri Vieuxtemps' Violin Concerto No. 5 in A minor, "Gretry"

I was wondering about that!  Do you also hear it in the slow movement?
"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Brian

Quote from: Cato on March 09, 2017, 03:52:46 AM
Do you also hear it in the slow movement?
Yes!

I had not listened to that concerto in many years. I associated it with an unfortunate event about a decade ago and tried to avoid it for some time after that...but listening to the concerto again this week (including once more, now), I am reminded that it really is a very good and very concise romantic piece with, as Mr. Demolder knows, beautiful melodies!

Cato

Quote from: Cato on February 01, 2017, 10:43:32 AM
I have not heard all of them by any means, but the Adagio of the Vieuxtemps Violin Concerto has a melody similar to what he is remembering.  And who knows how reliable his memory may be?

Quote from: Brian on March 03, 2017, 07:22:59 AM
Yes, it is Henri Vieuxtemps' Violin Concerto No. 5 in A minor, "Gretry"



Quote from: Cato on March 09, 2017, 03:52:46 AM
I was wondering about that!  Do you also hear it in the slow movement?

Quote from: Brian on March 09, 2017, 06:10:43 AM
Yes!

I had not listened to that concerto in many years...

Probably 50 years have gone by in my case!  But the old  :o  memory for music is still working well! ;)

Anyway, I hope that "the quest of many years" has now come to a successful end!
"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

Brian

Quote from: Cato on March 09, 2017, 06:34:12 AM
Probably 50 years have gone by in my case!  But the old  :o  memory for music is still working well! ;)
Wow, I hope that my memory works that well in 50 years...heck, I hope it works that well in 5!

Cato

Quote from: Brian on March 09, 2017, 06:58:11 AM
Wow, I hope that my memory works that well in 50 years...heck, I hope it works that well in 5!

Mrs. Cato has been known to wonder why my memory can recognize a tune after only a few notes, but failed  e.g. in remembering to pay the dentist! ;)

Perhaps if the dentist had played Lohengrin  :o :o :o  or Pelleas et Molarsande ??? ??? ???
I would have remembered to stop by and pay the bill! 0:)
"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Monsieur Croche

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on March 09, 2017, 08:23:18 AM
Or the Bridge Variations

Too,. there must be at least one stirring work song / folk tune from the blokes who hauled barges down the old Root Canal.
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