GMG's Greatest Opera Poll of 2017

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mc ukrneal

Quote from: TheGSMoeller on October 03, 2017, 09:51:16 AM
I'll just stick with individual operas since most have either only listed one, or (have once in parenthesis next to Ring Cycle). For those that are against this, I apologize, this will all be over soon and we will move to our next controversial "Greatest" list shortly.  8) :)
There wouldn't be any controversy at all if you simply exchanged "GMG Greatest" from the title with something else. As is, it implies some sort of consensus GMG list (or one that represents everyone at GMG) of 'greatest' works.
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Ken B

Quote from: TheGSMoeller on October 03, 2017, 09:51:16 AM
I'll just stick with individual operas since most have either only listed one, or (have once in parenthesis next to Ring Cycle). For those that are against this, I apologize, this will all be over soon and we will move to our next controversial "Greatest" list shortly.  8) :)
Well I need to reorder , the bottom few changing.

Threepenny Opera

Cosi fan Tutte
Magic Flute
Sweeney Todd (SS)

Facing Goya (Nyman)
Four Saints in Three Acts (VT)

Giulio Cesare (GFH)
Ring
Orfeo Ed Eurydice (CWG)
Castor et Pollux (JPR)
Walkure(RW)


Are we gonna produce a list with no Carmen, no Barber of Seville, no Turandot?

kishnevi

1. Otello
2. Falstaff
3-6 Ring des Nibelungen
7.Tosca
8.Nozze di Figaro
9. Rosenkavalier
10. Albert Herring

North Star

Quote from: Jeffrey Smith on October 03, 2017, 11:10:51 AM
1. Otello
2. Falstaff
3-6 Ring des Nibelungen
7.Tosca
8.Nozze di Figaro
9. Rosenkavalier
10. Albert Herring
Numbers are points or places? And Rheingold gets the highest placing/lowest points?
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Sergeant Rock

Quote from: Ken B on October 03, 2017, 11:02:49 AM
Are we gonna produce a list with no Carmen, no Barber of Seville, no Turandot?

Choosing a Puccini opera is tough. I love them all and I hated leaving out Turandot (the one I probably listen to most often). A top 20 greatest would have been easier.

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Ken B

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on October 03, 2017, 01:27:30 PM
Choosing a Puccini opera is tough. I love them all and I hated leaving out Turandot (the one I probably listen to most often). A top 20 greatest would have been easier.

Sarge
20 in a top 10?
I thought only John counts that badly.  ;)

kishnevi

Quote from: North Star on October 03, 2017, 11:25:27 AM
Numbers are points or places? And Rheingold gets the highest placing/lowest points?

Numbers are to ensure I didn't go over 10. :P
Ranking them, Otello and Falstaff would be tied for 1st,  Albert Herring for 10th, and the rest tied for 3rd.

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: Ken B on October 03, 2017, 01:30:15 PM
20 in a top 10?
I thought only John counts that badly.  ;)

;D :D ;D   I can count up to 20 pretty easily (fingers and toes). Beyond that it becomes problematic.

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

kishnevi

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on October 03, 2017, 01:27:30 PM
Choosing a Puccini opera is tough. I love them all and I hated leaving out Turandot (the one I probably listen to most often). A top 20 greatest would have been easier.

Sarge

I can't say my Puccini love equals yours, but my feelings about Turandot are the same. It's just that I think Tosca (and Boheme, too) are more dramatically coherent and more musically enriched.

Ken B

Quote from: Jeffrey Smith on October 03, 2017, 01:35:46 PM
Numbers are to ensure I didn't go over 10. :P
Ranking them, Otello and Falstaff would be tied for 1st,  Albert Herring for 10th, and the rest tied for 3rd.
Poor Greg! That combinatorics course finally comes in useful!

Florestan

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on October 03, 2017, 01:37:42 PM
I can count up to 20 pretty easily (fingers and toes). Beyond that it becomes problematic.

21 should be piece of cake, though, even as a mournful remembrance.  ;D ;D ;D
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy

Ken B

Quote from: Florestan on October 03, 2017, 01:41:04 PM
21 should be piece of cake, though, even as a mournful remembrance.  ;D ;D ;D
Your knowledge of Clevelanders is sorely deficient.

Florestan

Quote from: Ken B on October 03, 2017, 01:42:18 PM
Your knowledge of Clevelanders is sorely deficient.

Enlighten me, mighty Zeus!
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy

Ken B

Quote from: Florestan on October 03, 2017, 01:45:29 PM
Enlighten me, mighty Zeus!

Let's just say, speaking as a former Cincinnatian, that Clevelanders suffer a well-known deficiency. And that the population of Cleveland has long been declining, and leave it at that.  ;)

Florestan

Quote from: Ken B on October 03, 2017, 01:49:14 PM
Let's just say, speaking as a former Cincinnatian, that Clevelanders suffer a well-known deficiency. And that the population of Cleveland has long been declining, and leave it at that.  ;)

But they still have tongues, I assume, so 21 it is.  ;D ;D ;D
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: Florestan on October 03, 2017, 01:41:04 PM
21 should be piece of cake, though, even as a mournful remembrance.  ;D ;D ;D

Those were the days, my friend  ;D :D ;D

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Mr Bloom

Points, not rank.

10. Brett Dean : Bliss
9. Debussy : Pelleas und Mélisande
8. Maxwell Davies : Ressurection
7. Wagner : Tristan und Isolde
6. Britten : Death in Venice
5. Szymanowski: Król Roger
4. Shostakovich : Der Nose
3. Erwin Schulhoff : Flammen
2. Nikolai Karetnikov : Till eulenspiegel
1. Berg : Wozzeck

Jo498

#77
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on October 03, 2017, 01:37:42 PM
;D :D ;D   I can count up to 20 pretty easily (fingers and toes). Beyond that it becomes problematic.

Sarge
you can count up to 1023 with your 10 fingers, it needs only some digital and mental flexibility
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- Blaise Pascal

ComposerOfAvantGarde

10 Bliss (Dean)
9 Tristan und Isolde
8 Luci Mie Traditrici
7 Shadowtime
6 Punch and Judy
5 Lear
4 Hamlet (Dean)
3 Götterdämmerung
2 Le Grand Macabre
1 Die Walküre

TheGSMoeller

#79
I should have scores tallied by later today. hopefully. There are a few operas listed that don't have composer's attached so I'm having to look them up.

Also, there are a few .5 scores because Jeffrey had a few ties, and every list should total 55 points. If you have any questions about it let me know.