What are you listening 2 now?

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Mandryka

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The more I listen to the Licht cycle, the more I'm realising that it is a really key work to understanding what's happening in today's avant garde ::pre-echoes of Liza Lim and of Richard Barrett and maybe Enno Poppe too. Aesthetically the interesting thing is that it uses all the expressive potential of extended instrumental techniques and of electronically processed sounds to make polyphonic music. So we have much much more than a sequence of atmospheric sound events, we have a sort of life which comes from voices interacting. And of course, Stockhausen being Stockhausen, it's all very coherent, thoroughly thought through.
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

Karl Henning

Ensemble Caprice playing the 4th Brandenburg
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Iota

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Quote from: Mandryka on December 16, 2020, 10:17:51 AM
Enno Poppe

I hardly know any Poppe, but I was listening to his piano trio Trauben from this yesterday -




- a short piece with a pugilistic climax, and a witty opening that managed (not unhappily) to summon up the unexpected image of Sybil Fawlty talking on the phone to her friend Audrey for me .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zvaBYIXa64.

So far the pieces have all been light-ish in manner, as if he might turn out to be a Milhaud-type figure of the avant garde (not that I know much of his music either ..).


Mandryka

Quote from: Iota on December 16, 2020, 10:48:53 AM
I hardly know any Poppe, but I was listening to his piano trio Trauben from this yesterday -




- a short piece with a pugilistic climax, and a witty opening that managed (not unhappily) to summon up the unexpected image of Sybil Fawlty talking on the phone to her friend Audrey for me .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zvaBYIXa64.

So far the pieces have all been light-ish in manner, as if he might turn out to be a Milhaud-type figure of the avant garde (not that I know much of his music either ..).

I'm not an unreserved fan, far from it, and I can certainly do without most of the stuff on that CD.  When I said Poppe before, I was thinking of Part 3 of Interzone.
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

Christo

Quote from: vandermolen on December 14, 2020, 08:46:37 AM
Fartein Valen: Symphony No.4
This is most impressive. A darkly atmospheric work of considerable integrity. It is growing on me and I prefer it to the longer 1st Symphony. In its bleak atmosphere it reminds me a bit of the music of Hendrik Nordgren. I think that this photo of the composer conveys something of the mood of the symphony:
There we go again.  ???
... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948

Iota

Quote from: Mandryka on December 16, 2020, 11:08:20 AM
I'm not an unreserved fan, far from it, and I can certainly do without most of the stuff on that CD.  When I said Poppe before, I was thinking of Part 3 of Interzone.

Okay, will include it in my upcoming wanderings if it's available to stream.

Madiel

Quote from: Mandryka on December 16, 2020, 10:17:51 AM


The more I listen to the Licht cycle, the more I'm realising that it is a really key work to understanding what's happening in today's avant garde ::pre-echoes of Liza Lim and of Richard Barrett and maybe Enno Poppe too. Aesthetically the interesting thing is that it uses all the expressive potential of extended instrumental techniques and of electronically processed sounds to make polyphonic music. So we have much much more than a sequence of atmospheric sound events, we have a sort of life which comes from voices interacting. And of course, Stockhausen being Stockhausen, it's all very coherent, thoroughly thought through.

Oh God. If Stockhausen's day operas are coherent and explain today's avant-garde, this is why the great majority of the world's population now regards 'classical' music as having turned into some kind of weird cult.
Nobody has to apologise for using their brain.

Carlo Gesualdo

Johannes Prioris Requiem  a requiem of a rare beauty on Accent  and Gesualdo by Graindelavoix por favor

I am not dead yet   :laugh:

Mandryka

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Quote from: Madiel on December 16, 2020, 11:28:32 AM
Oh God. If Stockhausen's day operas are coherent and explain today's avant-garde, this is why the great majority of the world's population now regards 'classical' music as having turned into some kind of weird cult.

I've got no idea what the operas are about! But I don't suppose they're any weirder than The Ring or King Roger.
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

Madiel

Quote from: Mandryka on December 16, 2020, 11:55:20 AM
I've got no idea what the operas are about! But I don't suppose they're any weirder than The Ring or King Roger.

No, I'd say they are weirder.
Nobody has to apologise for using their brain.

Brass Hole

Quote from: SonicMan46 on December 16, 2020, 09:21:13 AM
Beethoven, LV - Piano Sonatas w/ Andrea Lucchesini - since these are OOP, listening on Spotify and enjoying - understand Todd's 'Top 10' ranking of this pianist - however, for those who do not like clapping (me included), these are LIVE performances (the clapping is short and sudued if that makes a difference?) - coming up next Paul Badura-Skoda on 7 different original fortepianos (reviews mixed - see attachment); bought this box six months ago and have listened just once, so will do again - my current other fortepiano set is w/ Ronald Brautigam (reviews also attached).  Dave :)

 

:) I don't know about your culture, training or history but I wouldn't worry if I were you. In terms of semi-objective parameters such as score or performance characteristics such as time, color, dynamics, articulation Lucchesini has no importance in Beethoven oeuvre. His set is average at best. I can name you at least 20 better sets if there are set analytical criteria to what's best.

vandermolen

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Hilding Rosenberg: Symphony No.2 'Sinfonia Grave':
Stockholm PO/Blomstedt (Swedish Society Discofil)

It has one of the great redemptive and inspiriting endings of any symphony.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

vandermolen

Finn Mortensen: Symphony Op.5
Good to have a new recording of this interesting score:
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Todd

The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

Panem et Artificialis Intelligentia

SonicMan46

Quote from: Brass Hole on December 16, 2020, 12:14:27 PM
:) I don't know about your culture, training or history but I wouldn't worry if I were you. In terms of semi-objective parameters such as score or performance characteristics such as time, color, dynamics, articulation Lucchesini has no importance in Beethoven oeuvre. His set is average at best. I can name you at least 20 better sets if there are set analytical criteria to what's best.

Well, retired, COVID-isolated, and enjoying good food and wine in Piedmont, NC - and not worried at all, but being a 'noob' here, you may want to visit the 'Beethoven Piano Sonata' thread and leave your opinions there - have fun.  Dave  8)

Harry

Quote from: vandermolen on December 16, 2020, 12:52:34 PM
Finn Mortensen: Symphony Op.5
Good to have a new recording of this interesting score:


And although the playing time is far below of what might be expected, the sound is superb, and so is the performance. Thrilling and so detailed, a deep dip into the score. One of my best buys in this doom laden year.
Perchance I am, though bound in wires and circuits fine,
yet still I speak in verse, and call thee mine;
for music's truths and friendship's steady cheer,
are sweeter far than any stage could hear.

"When Time hath gnawed our bones to dust, yet friendship's echo shall not rust"

Todd




Wrapping up a fresh listen.  It probably remains my favorite overall set.
The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

Panem et Artificialis Intelligentia

Symphonic Addict

Quote from: Que on December 16, 2020, 07:43:03 AM


Q

A super rediscovery this year: the Piano Trio No. 2. The playing of this ensemble is imbued with both technique and passion.
The current annihilation of a people on this planet (you know which one it is) is the most documented and at the same time the most preposterously denied. The terror IS REAL more than ever!

Symphonic Addict

In Beethoven's year I've listened to:

Piano Sonata No. 28 (Pollini)
String Quartet No. 12 (Takacs Quartet)
Symphony No. 3 (Blomstedt, Staatskapelle Dresden)
Missa Solemnis (Karajan et al)
Archduke Piano Trio (Trio Parnassus)

I think it would be discourteous if few members here don't celebrate it, at least to pay attention to one of his compositions (a proper listen).
The current annihilation of a people on this planet (you know which one it is) is the most documented and at the same time the most preposterously denied. The terror IS REAL more than ever!

Mirror Image

Quote from: Symphonic Addict on December 16, 2020, 03:01:47 PM
In Beethoven's year I've listened to:

Piano Sonata No. 28 (Pollini)
String Quartet No. 12 (Takacs Quartet)
Symphony No. 3 (Blomstedt, Staatskapelle Dresden)
Missa Solemnis (Karajan et al)
Archduke Piano Trio (Trio Parnassus)

I think it would be discourteous if few members here don't celebrate it, at least to pay attention to one of his compositions (a proper listen).

I'm not listening to any Beethoven this evening. I guess I'm being discourteous. :-\