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Traverso

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 19, 2021, 06:06:17 AM
It's a beautiful piece. Strauss was not always admirable as a man, but the Metamorphosen is thoroughly admirable music.

Perhaps not always admirable, but certainly not despicable, let's be careful about judging.

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Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 19, 2021, 06:06:17 AM
It's a beautiful piece. Strauss was not always admirable as a man, but the Metamorphosen is thoroughly admirable music.

The fact that he shielded his Jewish daughter-in-law (and her children) from the Nazis and protected her makes him an admirable person in my book. His time during the Nazi years is often misunderstood, but I've done a lot of reading about this period in his life and a lot of the positions he took with the Nazis were simply to protect his family, but also allow composers during this horrible time to do as they wish and continue to work. He took the head position of the Reichsmusikkammer to actually help other composers and allow a lot of these composers who were banned to be performed. Is Shostakovich seen as a Stalin sympathizer because he chose to stay in the Soviet Union? Obviously not and there are countless stories of Shostakovich walking the party line while giving his finger to them behind their backs.

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NP:

Glazunov
Piano Concerto No. 2 in B major Op. 100
Stephen Coombs, piano
BBC Scottish SO
Brabbins



Traverso

Poulenc

La Voix humaine

Denise Duval
Orchestre Du Théâtre National De L'Opéra-Comique
Georges Prêtre


Dry Brett Kavanaugh

Quote from: Brian on August 18, 2021, 07:55:43 PM
I agree - I love his Bach album and if you do too you should try Vikingur Olafsson, which has a similar level of perfectionist beauty but with a little bit different demeanor. More like flawless museum artwork pieces rather than big rich slices of cake.

Olafsson's Bach is very good and interesting approach while I personally have a mixed feeling about it. I will re-listen to his recordings.

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Quote from: Traverso on August 19, 2021, 05:46:27 AM
Richard Strauss

Metamorphosen

This music sounds like a tired old man looking back on his life in a kind of reverie
Horrible things have happened and there is a kind of longing for the past which becomes audible by a reference to the "Eroica" that can be heard almost like a lost sign.





A beautiful work and an example of how time didn't extinguish his creative drive whatsoever. I feel the same way about Vier letzte Lieder, the Oboekonzert and the 2nd Hornkonzert.

Traverso

Quote from: Mirror Image on August 19, 2021, 06:36:46 AM
A beautiful work and an example of how time didn't extinguish his creative drive whatsoever. I feel the same way about Vier letzte Lieder, the Oboekonzert and the 2nd Hornkonzert.

He has certainly been stigmatized by people and critics not to mention that historically is not tenable.
I find his music very appealing and especially the few examples you have already mentioned.
He once stood at the gates of a concentration camp and was surprised that he was not let in.

Irons

Quote from: Traverso on August 19, 2021, 05:46:27 AM
Richard Strauss

Metamorphosen

This music sounds like a tired old man looking back on his life in a kind of reverie
Horrible things have happened and there is a kind of longing for the past which becomes audible by a reference to the "Eroica" that can be heard almost like a lost sign.





You have to admire the versatility of Marriner and ASMF.
You must have a very good opinion of yourself to write a symphony - John Ireland.

I opened the door people rushed through and I was left holding the knob - Bo Diddley.

SonicMan46

Haydn, Joseph from the Manfred Huss box that I posted yesterday quoted below - this is a 6-disc collection all in a double jewel box - just got to a few recordings yesterday, so finishing up today!  Dave :)

Quote from: SonicMan46 on August 18, 2021, 11:51:13 AM
Haydn, Joseph - Music Prince Esterhazy & King of Naples - listening to the first 2 CDs top row, i.e. Notturni, all eight works w/ Mozzafiato/L'Archibudelli and Ensemble Baroque de Limoges/Quatuor Mosaiques doing baryton octets, notturni, & lira organizzata works - the two lira copies from the booklet shown - checkout Gurn's Haydn Seek HERE for a more thorough description of this hybrid hurdy-gurdy/organ.  Now there are many other recordings of these lira works but virtually all use wind combinations as substitutes; Klocker does 6 of the Notturni w/ his group.  One of the best collections is the 6-disc w/ Manfred Huss and the Haydn Sinfonietta Wien.  Dave :)

     

   

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Quote from: Traverso on August 19, 2021, 06:51:24 AM
He has certainly been stigmatized by people and critics not to mention that historically is not tenable.
I find his music very appealing and especially the few examples you have already mentioned.
He once stood at the gates of a concentration camp and was surprised that he was not let in.

All I know is he had to do what he had do in order to survive that environment. I mean he loved Germany and didn't think of uprooting himself as so many of his contemporaries have done. He had a family there and he loved his life, so in order to adapt to the new political environment, he did what anyone who didn't want to leave would've done. Webern could be viewed as a Nazi sympathizer as well since he stayed behind and I'm not sure what Berg would've done, but this wasn't an easy road for anyone who chose not to leave.

Traverso

Quote from: Irons on August 19, 2021, 07:01:37 AM
You have to admire the versatility of Marriner and ASMF.

I most certainly do, I admire Marriner /ASMF from a very young age wich began after hearing their Mozart recordings. :)

Harry

Franz von Suppe.
Overtures and Marches.
Royal Scottish National Orchestra, Neeme Jarvi.


Well that was fun! Fine sound and riveting performance. The intro of the "Overture to Ein Morgen, ein Mittag, und ein abend in Wien" is to die for. I will order the SACD copy, the music deserves that.
Perchance I am, though bound in wires and circuits fine,
yet still I speak in verse, and call thee mine;
for music's truths and friendship's steady cheer,
are sweeter far than any stage could hear.

"When Time hath gnawed our bones to dust, yet friendship's echo shall not rust"

Traverso

Quote from: Mirror Image on August 19, 2021, 07:05:33 AM
All I know is he had to do what he had do in order to survive that environment. I mean he loved Germany and didn't think of uprooting himself as so many of his contemporaries have done. He had a family there and he loved his life, so in order to adapt to the new political environment, he did what anyone who didn't want to leave would've done. Webern could be viewed as a Nazi sympathizer as well since he stayed behind and I'm not sure what Berg would've done, but this wasn't an easy road for anyone who chose not to leave.

I sympathize with your view on this one  :)

Harry

Jean Fery Rebel.
Apotheose de la Danse Baroque.

La Terpsichore
La Caracteres de la Danse.
Les Plaisirs Champetres.
Fantasie.

Georg Philipp Telemann.
Overture Suite in G major, "La Bizarre".
Overture suite in B major, Tafelmusik Part III, No. 1.

Les Concert des Nations, Jordi Savall
SACD recording.



To my ears this is a very successful merging of two composers whom I admire. It is my second rerun, and the impression deepens in regards to the impact this performance has on me. Savall almost never disappoints, and in this instance he even exceeds my expectations. The SACD sound is nothing short of State of the Art.
Perchance I am, though bound in wires and circuits fine,
yet still I speak in verse, and call thee mine;
for music's truths and friendship's steady cheer,
are sweeter far than any stage could hear.

"When Time hath gnawed our bones to dust, yet friendship's echo shall not rust"

Traverso

Elgar

Three Bavarian Dances
Chanson de Nuit
Chanson de Matin
Fantasia and Fugue
Overture
In the South

London Philharmonic Orchestra
Sir Adrian Boult


vandermolen

#47595
Dag Wiren: Symphony No.4  (1952) - a powerful, brooding score and my favourite of the Wiren symphonies. The monothematic 'approaching storm' at the start is very gripping:
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Traverso

Gubaidulina

The Lyre of Orpheus
dedicated to Gidon Kremer

Canticle of the Sun
dedicated to Rostropovich

Gidon Kremer
Kremarata Baltica


Karl Henning

Quote from: Traverso on August 19, 2021, 06:21:42 AM
Perhaps not always admirable, but certainly not despicable, let's be careful about judging.

Not wearing the black cap, here.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Quote from: Mirror Image on August 19, 2021, 06:23:56 AM
The fact that he shielded his Jewish daughter-in-law (and her children) from the Nazis and protected her makes him an admirable person in my book. His time during the Nazi years is often misunderstood, but I've done a lot of reading about this period in his life and a lot of the positions he took with the Nazis were simply to protect his family, but also allow composers during this horrible time to do as they wish and continue to work. He took the head position of the Reichsmusikkammer to actually help other composers and allow a lot of these composers who were banned to be performed. Is Shostakovich seen as a Stalin sympathizer because he chose to stay in the Soviet Union? Obviously not and there are countless stories of Shostakovich walking the party line while giving his finger to them behind their backs.

Tough for anyone to be thoroughly admirable under such circs, yes.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Traverso