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Que

Quote from: Traverso on January 29, 2022, 07:03:30 AM
Jacques Duphly



Because Leonhart's father was an admirer of Mahler, he was called Gustav
Unfortunately, this did not apply to his son, who had little regard for his namesake. :)





Not sure if you already have this later (2005) Leonhardt recording? If not not: seek it out, it's absolutely superb!  :)


MusicTurner

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Quote from: Traverso on January 29, 2022, 07:03:30 AM

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Because Leonhart's father was an admirer of Mahler, he was called Gustav
Unfortunately, this did not apply to his son, who had little regard for his namesake. :)

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Indeed, in stead he developed into a contrarian ... :)

His wife is still around https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_Leonhardt ; some sources say they had 3 children, but their names aren't very easy to find.

SonicMan46

Quote from: "Harry" on January 29, 2022, 05:24:13 AM
Tomaso Giovanni Albinoni.

Oboe concertos, opus 7.
No: 1,2,3,8, & 9.
Opus 9, No. 6.
Sinfonia in G major.

Anthony Camden & Alison Alty, Oboes.
The London Virtuosi, John Georgiadis.


What a surprise to find out that neither from opus 7 or 9 are complete recordings. The three discs I have are from 1992 & 1994. Naxos never completed them. The soloists are admirable, but the orchestra is one long legato affair, with a load of vibrato added, smooth operators so to say. It is not as I would like to hear Albinoni's Oboe concertos, but I have no choice, for they are simply not recorded in their entirety. A pity for the music is attractive and well written.  It is recorded by Simon Rhodes and Chris Craker, both good engineers. So the sound is good, and as far as the interpretations go quite good, but very unauthentic.
I saw a new recording by Camerata Köln 2021, but again a mix, and other composers added.

I saw a box recorded by Chandos with 3 CD's in it, on authentic instruments, but its not available anymore.


Harry - you missed my post from yesterday (quoted below) - Brilliant has a 3-CD wallet foldout w/ all of the Oboe Concertos on modern instruments, which is excellent; now if you want period oboes, the the 3-disc set by Robson is outstanding - the box is available at PrestoMusic HERE for $30, as discussed below.  Dave :)

QuoteAlbinoni, Tomaso (1671-1751) - Oboe Concertos, Op. 7 & 9 w/ Stefan Schilli on a modern instrument; Nicol Matt/Stuttgart Chamber Orchestra - wonderful performances, but for period instrument fans, I also own the first two of three volumes (bottom row) w/ Anthony Robson and Catherine Latham on oboes, plus Simon Standage & Collegium Musicum 90, which have the two Opus works 'mixed up' - the remainder are on a third disc - this has been re-packaged (and re-arranged) into a 3-CD set (top row, 2nd/3rd pics) but is not a bargain, e.g. $37 on Amazon USA - might just get a DL to complete my 'period set', but that 're-arrangement' is attractive - drat!   :laugh:  Dave

   

   

MusicTurner

Quote from: JBS on January 29, 2022, 07:01:47 AM
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The Brilliant box has a hodgepodge of stuff, including CDs devoted to chamber music, organ music, and chamber concertos, so you'll probably want it (or the individual CDs it was compiled from).
When comparing Hamelin's recordings to the recordings of the same pieces in the Brilliant set, I prefer Hamelin, but 1)I like pyrotechnical pianism and 2)Brilliant has a bunch of stuff Hamelin didn't record.

[I don't have any of the Naxos CDs.  Lowenthal is Hamelin's equal but he recorded fewer works.]



I haven't listened thoroughly to the Alkan Brilliant Box, but the playing didn't seem bad at all.

Florestan

Quote from: Traverso on January 29, 2022, 07:03:30 AM
Because Leonhart's father was an admirer of Mahler, he was called Gustav

Blimey, to think that I could have christened my son Johannes Chrysostomus Wolfgangus Theophilus... Well, next time for sure.  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

Traverso

Quote from: Florestan on January 29, 2022, 07:15:22 AM
Reynaldo Leonhardt sounds rather cool.  :D

Looks like it makes a lot of sense  ::)

Florestan

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Quote from: MusicTurner on January 29, 2022, 07:20:04 AM
I haven't listened thoroughly to the Alkan Brilliant Box, but the playing didn't seem bad at all.

Considering the line up, it should be rather good. In fact, I set it on seek-and-capture mode.  ;)
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

Papy Oli

Quote from: The new erato on January 29, 2022, 05:53:19 AM
start with one of the 1 volum oratorios to find out if the series are to your liking. They have consistently been very good.

Noted, thank you. I'll try one next week.
Olivier

Florestan

Quote from: Traverso on January 29, 2022, 07:24:49 AM
Looks like it makes a lot of sense  ::)

Reynaldo Hahn. Don't tell me you never heard of him.  ;)
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

JBS

Quote from: MusicTurner on January 29, 2022, 07:20:04 AM
I haven't listened thoroughly to the Alkan Brilliant Box, but the playing didn't seem bad at all.

It's not a case of the musicians on Brilliant being bad, but rather a case of how good Hamelin is.

Hollywood Beach Broadwalk

Florestan

Quote from: JBS on January 29, 2022, 07:27:23 AM
It's not a case of the musicians on Brilliant being bad, but rather a case of how good Hamelin is.

Brilliantly put! (pun)  :D
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: Mirror Image on January 28, 2022, 07:45:10 AM
Pounds the table! Find a recording of them and buy it, Sarge! I just mentioned in a post to Spotted Horses, the Quatuor Ludwig recording on Timpani. Honestly, the recording he mentioned with the Erato Quartet and the one I mentioned are both OOP and difficult to find. The only reason I own the Quatuor Ludwig recording is because it came in a 4-CD set of Honegger's chamber music (on Timpani), which is OOP as well.

The Erato QT performances are on YouTube so I'll be content with that until a CD set becomes available.

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

SonicMan46

Albinoni, Tomaso - Concerti, Op. 5 & 10 w/ Simon Standage and Collegium Musicum 90 on period instruments (unfortunately their Op. 10 is incomplete, missing Nos. 4, 6, 9, & 10).  Now the older 2-disc recording w/ Scimone/I Solisti Veneti has all 12 Op. 10 works but is on modern instruments; despite its age, the sound is just fine to my ears.  Dave :)

   

springrite

Quote from: JBS on January 29, 2022, 07:27:23 AM
It's not a case of the musicians on Brilliant being bad, but rather a case of how good Hamelin is.
There are All Stars. Then there is Michael Jordan, you know...
Do what I must do, and let what must happen happen.

Mirror Image

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on January 29, 2022, 07:30:12 AM
The Erato QT performances are on YouTube so I'll be content with that until a CD set becomes available.

Sarge

To bolded text, I wouldn't hold your breath on this one. It won't happen. :-\


Karl Henning

Quote from: JBS on January 28, 2022, 04:13:25 PMI've never heard of, Alexandre Luigini*'s [1850-1906]
*My brain wants to turn this into Linguine.

(* chortle *)

TD:

CD 6
"Wolferl"
Pf Cto in d minor, K.466
Pf Cto in C, K.467
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Florestan

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 29, 2022, 08:13:49 AM
(* chortle *)

TD:

CD 6
"Wolferl"
Pf Cto in d minor, K.466
Pf Cto in C, K.467


How would you rate this set, Karl? It's next in line after I finish Anda.
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

Traverso

Quote from: Florestan on January 29, 2022, 07:26:13 AM
Reynaldo Hahn. Don't tell me you never heard of him.  ;)

This is one of my CD's  :)


Traverso

Quote from: Que on January 29, 2022, 07:15:44 AM

Not sure if you already have this later (2005) Leonhardt recording? If not not: seek it out, it's absolutely superb!  :)



I have it Que,it is superb indeed!  :)

The new Leonardt edition has regrettable no surprises.

foxandpeng

Quote from: Symphonic Addict on January 28, 2022, 05:14:05 PM
How is this music? I mean, what does it sound like? I've seen this composer somewhere before.

Lipkin is worth a listen, IMO. The first symphony is more atonal than the following two, but there is a fair dissonance in there.

MusicWeb puts it better than I can... 

The comprehensive and informative booklet notes by Paul Conway describe the First Symphony as "atonal" but this should not be taken to imply that they are in the same modernist style of many other British works of the 1960s. Indeed, although there is no definite sense of key, the music is frequently harmonically based around a distinct series of notes and the overall effect is no more unapproachable than (say) Bartók, showing the evidence of the composer's four years of study with Bernard Stevens. The symphony has elements of a tone poem, and the original inspiration came from Lipkin's experience of a traffic jam in Rome in the 1950s. The work stands on its own feet as a purely musical unit, with the description of the traffic jam — taken as a symbol for modern life with its noise and bustle — forming a central scherzo-like movement surrounded by a slow introduction and a disturbed concluding nocturne. Like all the symphonies on this disc, the music is continuous throughout. Paul Conway rightly describes it in his notes as "a powerfully cogent symphonic statement".

The other two symphonies here are similarly descriptive. The Second Symphony takes its inspiration from four lines by Andrew Marvell:

But at my back I alwaies hear
Times winged Charriot hurrying near
And yonder all before us lye
Desarts of vast Eternity


The sense of pursuit is palpable during the opening section, with a static centre before what Paul Conway describes as "a massive peroration". Throughout these symphonies one is aware of Lipkin's confident deployment of large orchestral forces, which are splendidly realised by the BBC orchestras under their various conductors. The first performance of The Pursuit was given on 9 February 1983, with this studio reading for broadcast made in a session the following day; and the sense of identification of the performers with the music is tangible.

The Third Symphony also derives its programmatic intent from a poem, this time by Robert Herrick:

The Glorious Lamp of Heaven, the Sun,
The higher he's a getting;
The sooner will his Race be run,
And neerer he's to Setting.


This lyric does not seem in itself to hold out much promise in terms of purely musical content, but Lipkin takes it as a metaphor for human life. He writes that its "spiritual essence is also concerned with that other arc of man's own race: the morning of life, its zenith and its evening." This is much more fertile territory for musical development, and the results are magnificently realised. Again Lipkin displays a masterly control of his orchestral forces, and the tapes taken from the first concert performance are marvellously detailed.
     
On the basis of this disc it is clear that Lipkin is a major symphonist whose music deserves to be better known. This new release may reduplicate material available elsewhere, but the fact that the recordings come from the original BBC master tapes makes a major difference to their impact. This disc is a must for anyone interested in the British symphony in the twentieth century, and should attract many others as well.
     
Paul Corfield Godfrey

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Tolstoy