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Florestan

Quote from: Rinaldo on April 07, 2020, 09:55:58 AM
So because he's not the singular ruler, he's exempt of responsibility? He and the politics that he represents and fights for is what led Britain to where it is now.

Spain is much worse than UK. I suppose you firmly condemn and despise the politics Pedro Sanchez represents and fights for, too.

"Ja, sehr komisch, hahaha,
ist die Sache, hahaha,
drum verzeihn Sie, hahaha,
wenn ich lache, hahaha! "

Kaga2

Quote from: Rinaldo on April 07, 2020, 09:11:26 AM
I don't wish him anything. I just don't feel any sympathy for his ordeal, while the country suffers because of him.
I am sorry, but look at the words to which you applied a -1.

I am ignoring you henceforth.

Herman

Another researchy thing from the hospitals: there is a large percentage of overweight corona patients in ICU. High BMI seems to be a causal factor.

People are starting to think too much fat affects the immune system which is why there are so many overweight people in ICU's.

This could be very bad news for the USA.

SimonNZ



Quote from: Florestan on April 07, 2020, 10:00:33 AM
Spain is much worse than UK. I suppose you firmly condemn and despise the politics Pedro Sanchez represents and fights for, too.

As ever: that doesn't follow.

And I'm with Rinaldo here. I don't wish death on BoJo The Clown but I've little sympathy for someone who is most probably sick due to his own bad policies and who most likely previously thought this couldn't happen to an Etonian.

Kaga2

Quote from: SimonNZ on April 07, 2020, 10:17:13 AM
As ever: that doesn't follow.

And I'm with Rinaldo here. I don't wish death on BoJo The Clown but I've little sympathy for someone who is most probably sick due to his own bad policies and who most likely previously thought this couldn't happen to an Etonian.
You were gloating about Rand Paul testing positive. This is also an odious post.

I think perhaps this group is not for me. Better Beethoven alone than Beethoven in such company.

SimonNZ

Quote from: Kaga2 on April 07, 2020, 10:20:47 AM
You were gloating about Rand Paul testing positive. This is also an odious post.

I think perhaps this group is not for me. Better Beethoven alone than Beethoven in such company.

Saying its hard to have sympathy isn't "gloating". Its not like I'm sitting here with a big grin on my face at the news. But BoJo's idiot policies and flip flopping have now caused needless suffering beyond the necessary - and is almost certainly the reason a large number of Britons aren't taking this as seriously as they should.

prémont

Quote from: SimonNZ on April 07, 2020, 10:17:13 AM

I don't wish death on BoJo The Clown but I've little sympathy for someone who is most probably sick due to his own bad policies and who most likely previously thought this couldn't happen to an Etonian.

Do not judge him too strictly. He might still have contracted the virus no matter how much the UK was closed down. I also consider him a clown, but even clowns have a right to live, and I wish him a fast and full recovery.
Reality trumps our fantasy far beyond imagination.

Florestan

Quote from: SimonNZ on April 07, 2020, 10:26:31 AM
Saying its hard to have sympathy isn't "gloating". Its not like I'm sitting here with a big grin on my face at the news. But BoJo's idiot policies and flip flopping have now caused needless suffering beyond the necessary -

What would be the right amount of necessary suffering, in your estimation?
"Ja, sehr komisch, hahaha,
ist die Sache, hahaha,
drum verzeihn Sie, hahaha,
wenn ich lache, hahaha! "

Kaga2

I take it then that if the Swedish PM gets sick he deserves it.

prémont

Quote from: Herman on April 07, 2020, 10:15:51 AM
Another researchy thing from the hospitals: there is a large percentage of overweight corona patients in ICU. High BMI seems to be a causal factor.

People are starting to think too much fat affects the immune system which is why there are so many overweight people in ICU's.

This could be very bad news for the USA.

Yes, overweight and diabetes seem to be very common among corona patients needing respirator assistance. Apart from a possible effect upon the immune system, overweight doesn't make it easier to breathe because of compression of the lungs.
Reality trumps our fantasy far beyond imagination.

Florestan

Quote from: Kaga2 on April 07, 2020, 10:33:11 AM
I take it then that if the Swedish PM gets sick he deserves it.

No, because he's a social-democrat. Only conservatives deserve it.  ;D
"Ja, sehr komisch, hahaha,
ist die Sache, hahaha,
drum verzeihn Sie, hahaha,
wenn ich lache, hahaha! "

SimonNZ

Quote from: Florestan on April 07, 2020, 10:30:24 AM
What would be the right amount of necessary suffering, in your estimation?

Zero. Obviously. Think BoJo agrees?

Once more: don't wish him dead. Just no sympathy.

Florestan

Quote from: SimonNZ on April 07, 2020, 10:36:21 AM
Zero. Obviously.

It's not obvious at all from your post: you wrote "suffering beyond necessary", which logically implies there is a necessary suffering.
"Ja, sehr komisch, hahaha,
ist die Sache, hahaha,
drum verzeihn Sie, hahaha,
wenn ich lache, hahaha! "

Marc

Quote from: Kaga2 on April 07, 2020, 10:33:11 AM
I take it then that if the Swedish PM gets sick he deserves it.

Personally, I would never say such a thing.

Well.... ::)

But when I read yesterday that this weekend the Swedes were still having loads of fun, grouping together on terraces in Stockholm and Göteborg, I was (again) baffled.
Apparently, they think it's the wisest thing to do.
And who's to know actually? It's become clear that a majority of governments and even medical advice groups were not seriously prepared for this. For the USA, it's truly a pity that the Pandemic Unit, created in in 2014, was wiped aside in 2017.

Karl Henning

Quote from: Florestan on April 07, 2020, 10:39:41 AM
It's not obvious at all from your post: you wrote "suffering beyond necessary", which logically implies there is a necessary suffering.

But no implication that the necessity adheres to any human agent.

Where there is a pandemic assailing tens of thousands there will of necessity be suffering
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Mandryka

Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

Mandryka

Israel Health Minister Yaakov Litzman, who previously claimed that the coronavirus was "divine punishment against homosexuality," has tested positive for the virus.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2020/04/israel-health-minister-who-called-covid-19-divine-punishment-tests-positive-for-virus/
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

Marc

Quote from: Mandryka on April 07, 2020, 12:57:13 PM
Israel Health Minister Yaakov Litzman, who previously claimed that the coronavirus was "divine punishment against homosexuality," has tested positive for the virus.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2020/04/israel-health-minister-who-called-covid-19-divine-punishment-tests-positive-for-virus/

And now he can claim that he was assaulted by a homosexual disease, hence the more reason to lock them all up.

prémont

Quote from: Mandryka on April 07, 2020, 12:57:13 PM
Israel Health Minister Yaakov Litzman, who previously claimed that the coronavirus was "divine punishment against homosexuality," has tested positive for the virus.

I have always thought this honor was reserved for gay plague. >:D
Reality trumps our fantasy far beyond imagination.

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot