USA Politics

[71 dB]

Too bad that Morse guy lost. I was pulling for him.

Not enough name recognition this time around. Next time maybe...

[Karl Henning]

Ed Markey defeats Joe Kennedy III  0:)

Looks like Green New Deal is important for the voters and isn't just a "Green Dream or whatever" to them.

Or it may be support of an incumbent you like against a son of privilege running on opportunism

Remind me—which of us lives in Massachusetts?

[Todd]

Yeah, that article was not terribly opportune. With people getting killed in the streets and covid still spreading we don't need that now.

Which logical fallacy is this again?

Skyrocketing demolition costs for riot-damaged Minneapolis, St. Paul properties delay rebuilding

If the residents are not careful, Minneapolis-St Paul could become the next Detroit. 

[Todd]

Most Democrats fear Trump could reject election defeat, poll shows

[BasilValentine]

Yeah, that article was not terribly opportune. With people getting killed in the streets and covid still spreading we don't need that now.

Sorry Herman, but the article points out a very real, longstanding problem. The research was no doubt begun well before the current plague and violence. It's not like The Atlantic has been failing to focus on current issues, has it? Should they devote the rest of their pages to gardening or something?

[71 dB]

Or it may be support of an incumbent you like against a son of privilege running on opportunism

Remind me—which of us lives in Massachusetts?

Could be be both. One doesn't have to be physically in Massachusetts to know what's going on in Massachusetts. Anyway this was the first time ever a Kennedy lost an election in Massachusetts. Did you know that living over there yourself Karl?

I live in Helsinki. You can certainly know things happening in Helsinki I don't know about if you follow Finnish news as much as I follow US politics.

As I have said before, I live in one of the least corrupted countries in the World with one of the best freedoms of press. So I know what is looks like when the news are only mildly skewed toward right-wing propaganda. That's why I am very sensitive to the corruption in the US, something I don't see in you Karl. You are much more susceptible to what corporate media writes and says. I fear you are blind to things like how the corporate media ALWAYS downplays the wins of progressives having all kind of excuses from fluke to demografics to support of an incumbent to cynical identity politics if possible. Nobody in the corporate media will say for example: "Looks like getting endorsed by AOC seems more important than getting endorsed by Nancy Pelosi."

[Herman]

Zzzzzzzzz....

If I were living in Helsinki I would enjoy living in Helsinki.

[greg]

The End of Wokeness? Glenn Loury and John McWhorter discuss the madness.
https://www.youtube.com/v/ardDvpzHDIs&feature=share

Just wanted to say that I was a bit surprised to see this video here, just happened to have it on yesterday 

[Florestan]

Sorry Herman, but the article points out a very real, longstanding problem. The research was no doubt begun well before the current plague and violence. It's not like The Atlantic has been failing to focus on current issues, has it? Should they devote the rest of their pages to gardening or something?

Freedom of thought and expression should be defended at any time, but especially today. Only someone who has never experienced first hand their complete absence can really claim they are less important that fighting covid or facing riots --- and with all due respect, Mr. Herman here has most certainly never experienced that.

[Florestan]

Which logical fallacy is this again?

I think it's called "there's something wrong with my brain". 

[71 dB]

Zzzzzzzzz....

If I were living in Helsinki I would enjoy living in Helsinki.

One can enjoy the place of residence without being ignorant about other places in the World.

[Florestan]

One can enjoy the place of residence without being ignorant about other places in the World.

I find it highly ironic that Herman reproaches you for not enjoying living where you live because you are concerned about places you don't live in, all the while being himself very concerned about places where he doesn't live in. Gosh, he must really hate whatever Netherlands corner he inhabits.

[greg]

For fun. A test about how much you agree with a bunch of random Trump quotes:

https://www.idrlabs.com/pol/trump/test.php


My results:

Your Trump Factor is 39%, which makes you a Soft Donald.
Uh-oh. Someone had better call a doctor 'cause your Trump Factor isn't doing too well. You need to rise to the challenge if you want to be cheeky, sassy, lively, saucy, and smart like only the Donald can be – in other words, to turn yourself into the highest quality, most wildly powerful brand (capable of wooing women and voters alike). You've got a job to do and if you do it, you'll win. Good luck – the Donald is watching you.

Anyone else wanna try it out?

Also, don't talk about me, Herman. Whatever ridiculous thing you are about to say, just shut your mouth before you even say it.

[Florestan]

For fun. A test about how much you agree with a bunch of random Trump quotes:

https://www.idrlabs.com/pol/trump/test.php

Took it. Answered it in all earnest and when context-dependent I had Romania instead of the USA in my mind. This is my result:



And yet I am staunchly pro-life, anti-PC, anti-SJW, anti-gay marriage, anti-gay adoptions, I hold Mozart in infintely higher esteem than Kanye West and I would gladly read the Tolstoy of the Papuans if only they had one. And I make no apologies for all of the above.

[greg]

Took it. Answered it in all earnest and when context-dependent I had Romania instead of the USA in my mind. This is my result:

How did you get 0%? Did you strong disagree with everything?

The one I agreed with the most is about the type of wife being a good business partner would also be a good wife.
What I disagreed with the most was the "it's a shame that the president isn't known as a CEO of America"

[Florestan]

How did you get 0%? Did you strong disagree with everything?

Honestly, I'm as surprised as you are. No, I didn't strongly disagree with everything. There were some quotes I was neutral about, or mildly agreed --- but the end result was that.

[Florestan]

The one I agreed with the most is about the type of wife being a good business partner would also be a good wife.

Frankly, coming from you this is a huge, unexpected surprise.

I, for one, disagreed with that. 

What I disagreed with the most was the "it's a shame that the president isn't known as a CEO of America"

That I disagreed with also. But not only that.

[greg]

Frankly, coming from you this is a huge, unexpected surprise.

I, for one, disagreed with that. 

If both people are willing to be in the same business, it only seems like a positive to me because then they have shared interests and goals. There would be less conflict of people doing their own thing.

I can think of some positive examples at the moment- the people I worked for at my first job, and some youtubers I follow. If it's a mutual passion, it's only a good thing.

In general, from my perspective, it's nice when women have at least one common interest... if they're only interested in makeup, pop music, and cheerleading, it would be hard to find anything to passionately talk about, and getting married to someone like that would make it very difficult to not get bored easily.

[Jo498]

And yet I am staunchly pro-life, anti-PC, anti-SJW, anti-gay marriage, anti-gay adoptions, I hold Mozart in infintely higher esteem than Kanye West and I would gladly read the Tolstoy of the Papuans if only they had one. And I make no apologies for all of the above.

you are conservative, unlike Trump

[Florestan]

you are conservative, unlike Trump

Hah! I guess you're right.