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Karl Henning

Biden: Violence by anyone is bad.

Trump: Violence by anyone except my supporters is bad.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Quote from: Florestan on August 31, 2020, 02:54:28 PM
Is greg an activist? If yes, then what for?

he acts like an alt-right channel
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Florestan

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 31, 2020, 03:54:51 PM
Biden: Violence by anyone is bad.

Trump: Violence by anyone except my supporters is bad.

Trump is an idiot but if the only chance the world at large has is replacing an idiot with a decrepit, then may God preserve us all!
"Ja, sehr komisch, hahaha,
ist die Sache, hahaha,
drum verzeihn Sie, hahaha,
wenn ich lache, hahaha! "

SimonNZ

Quote from: Florestan on August 31, 2020, 03:44:58 PM
Here we go again.

Count me out.

Bravo. Make an outrageous and provocative assertion and refuse to explain or elaborate.

It's just me being difficult and twisting your words again, isn't it?

Karl Henning

Quote from: Florestan on August 31, 2020, 03:58:49 PM
Trump is an idiot but if the only chance the world at large has is replacing an idiot with a decrepit, then may God preserve us all!

Where did you "learn" that Biden is "decrepit"?

Watch for yourself:

https://www.youtube.com/v/ZU4weRWnaAE
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Florestan

Quote from: SimonNZ on August 31, 2020, 03:59:03 PM
Bravo. Make an outrageous and provocative assertion and refuse to explain or elaborate.

It's just me being difficult and twisting your words again, isn't it?

No. It's just that there's no ideal regime and I don't prefer this to that. Aristocracy bad, democracy bad, anarchy bad. "History has proved time and again that governing is a task which far exceeds man's ability". What more do you want me to say?
"Ja, sehr komisch, hahaha,
ist die Sache, hahaha,
drum verzeihn Sie, hahaha,
wenn ich lache, hahaha! "

Florestan

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 31, 2020, 04:02:23 PM
Where did you "learn" that Biden is "decrepit"?

Watch for yourself:

https://www.youtube.com/v/ZU4weRWnaAE

Oh, Karl, for God's sake, he's 77-yo! Is he the best and brigthtest that the Democrat Party can offer? If no, then why him? If yes, then may God help us all!

"Ja, sehr komisch, hahaha,
ist die Sache, hahaha,
drum verzeihn Sie, hahaha,
wenn ich lache, hahaha! "

Todd

Quote from: Florestan on August 31, 2020, 04:07:43 PM
Oh, Karl, for God's sake, he's 77-yo! Is he the best and brigthtest that the Democrat Party can offer? If no, then why him? If yes, then may God help us all!


If it's on TV, it's real.  Ask Donald Trump.
The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

Karl Henning

Quote from: Florestan on August 31, 2020, 04:07:43 PM
Oh, Karl, for God's sake, he's 77-yo! Is he the best and brigthtest that the Democrat Party can offer? If no, then why him? If yes, then may God help us all!



So, he's 77 = he's decrepit.  Got it.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

A MAGA flag-waving Trump supporter atop a truck heckles Biden, who waves kindly and says "don't jump."

Man seems on the ball to me.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

milk

Quote from: Florestan on August 31, 2020, 04:07:43 PM
Oh, Karl, for God's sake, he's 77-yo! Is he the best and brigthtest that the Democrat Party can offer? If no, then why him? If yes, then may God help us all!
I was going to say both parties picked the worst. But then I thought that it's rather easier to be the worst than the best. Tump is really good at being the worst. Maybe he gets points on selling but I've talked to enough glib salesmen to see it's not that hard even though it takes a certain greasy charm and confidence. And for every empty-suited salesman there's a sucker.
On the other hand, Biden speaks with some authority and a definite ability to talk about history, political ideas, real policy, etc. that doesn't make him a great candidate, it's rather normal. He's not the "best" - by whatever rubric you use. He's ok at some things and less so at others. But being good is a wide category in politics.
Ok. I'm almost certain this post made no sense. I'll post it anyway. Maybe there's something in it.

JBS

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 31, 2020, 04:50:26 PM
A MAGA flag-waving Trump supporter atop a truck heckles Biden, who waves kindly and says "don't jump."

Man seems on the ball to me.

More on the ball than the heckler, who was yelling that Biden needed to come out of his basement, and didn't bother to at least rephrase it in light of the fact that Biden was certainly not in a basement at that moment.

Hollywood Beach Broadwalk

Karl Henning

Quote from: JBS on August 31, 2020, 05:34:20 PM
More on the ball than the heckler, who was yelling that Biden needed to come out of his basement, and didn't bother to at least rephrase it in light of the fact that Biden was certainly not in a basement at that moment.

As  Nick Danger said, that heckler didn't get there by being smart....
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

BasilValentine

In this PBS interview a former asst. U.S. attorney general argues, citing historical precedents, that, although the Second Amendment protects the right of individuals to bear arms, private militias like those inciting violence in Kenosha and Portland are afforded no such protection: She gets there by about 3:30 if you want to skip ahead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcOBQ05-feE

milk

Quote from: BasilValentine on August 31, 2020, 06:53:53 PM
In this PBS interview a former asst. U.S. attorney general argues, citing historical precedents, that, although the Second Amendment protects the right of individuals to bear arms, private militias like those inciting violence in Kenosha and Portland are afforded no such protection: She gets there by about 3:30 if you want to skip ahead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcOBQ05-feE
that's why "defund the police" sounds so silly. I know I know, it's reform. Fine. I'm all for it. But be careful about wanting police to step back. Let's remember that Blake is a rapist, Brooks was drunk behind the wheel of a car, gave one cop a concussion and grabbed the other's taser, and that Floyd had sold drugs and held a gun on a pregnant woman. It's doesn't mean they deserved to be shot or choked, particularly Floyd who appears to have been murdered. The militias are dangerous and so are criminals like the ones mentioned above. It's bourgeois privilege to want to get rid of cops. Pulling back the cops is going to hurt communities of every ethnic background. This isn't just an opinion, it's backed up by research. Anyone can look up the work of Harvard economist Roland Fryer and see what I'm talking about.

greg

Quote from: milk on August 31, 2020, 08:35:41 PM
that's why "defund the police" sounds so silly. I know I know, it's reform. Fine. I'm all for it. But be careful about wanting police to step back. Let's remember that Blake is a rapist, Brooks was drunk behind the wheel of a car, gave one cop a concussion and grabbed the other's taser, and that Floyd had sold drugs and held a gun on a pregnant woman. It's doesn't mean they deserved to be shot or choked, particularly Floyd who appears to have been murdered. The militias are dangerous and so are criminals like the ones mentioned above. It's bourgeois privilege to want to get rid of cops. Pulling back the cops is going to hurt communities of every ethnic background. This isn't just an opinion, it's backed up by research. Anyone can look up the work of Harvard economist Roland Fryer and see what I'm talking about.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/316571/black-americans-police-retain-local-presence.aspx
Wagie wagie get back in the cagie

milk

Quote from: greg on August 31, 2020, 08:41:45 PM
https://news.gallup.com/poll/316571/black-americans-police-retain-local-presence.aspx
You're gonna blow some minds with that link. It reminds me of the hilarious Chappelle show sketch, "I know black people."

milk

It Turns Out the Troops Like Biden and Dislike Trump to the Same Degree Everyone Else Does
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/08/poll-troops-prefer-biden-over-trump.html

Like father like son and the apple and so forth...
Can you imagine any of tump's children serving in the military? Those spoiled richies never earned anything anywhere.

Herman

Quote from: greg on August 31, 2020, 02:03:18 PM
If I ended up voting for Trump then it would be your fault.

That's why only adults have the vote.

But rest assured, it's written all over your posting history you'd vote Trump if you didn't have to get out of your home to vote. All your "brain chemicals" yearn for the big man.

arpeggio

Just because we understand the cause of the looting does not mean that all of us approve of the looting.

Of course there are a few nut jobs that approve of the violence.  No one has to remind us.  We  know that.  Stop underestimating the common sense of most of the people here. 

I am tired of the few here who constantly use the irresponsible actions of some to invalidated our legitimate concerns.  It makes me think that these members really support Trump and are using immature sarcasm to cover their true feelings.