USA Politics

[Todd]

If a critical cancer drug is not "one of them" then WHAT THE FUCK is? This is really were we have FUNDAMENTAL disagreement about how the society should work. You can live without Nike shoes so Nike can increase their prices ten-fold and see if people still buy their products, but cancer drugs are not like that. Surely you aren't so dumb to not see the difference?

Also in REAL capitalism drug companies would be COMPETING each other on the market keeping prices low, but that's not how it works in the US. There is no real competition. What's even more nasty is that the drug in question is probably mostly developed with tax payer money. Tax payers should have a say about what the drug costs, but in oligarchy they don't.

Caps = powerful.

[JBS]

There will be a lot to enjoy.

Trump COVID Hoax Conspiracy Theories Ignite Among President's Critics

See.

Apparently, the twitterverse is abuzz with folks delighting in Trump's diagnosis.  I don't use Twitter, so I will defer to forum users who do use Twitter to verify whether that is the case.

The Twitterverse is also full of people calling out people who delight in Trump's getting sick as disgraceful.

[Todd]

The Twitterverse is also full of people calling out people who delight in Trump's getting sick as disgraceful.

Yes, I assume Twitter has a lot of virtue signaling, too.

[JBS]

I will suggest that if Trump does die before 11/3, and thereby remove his personal flaws and corruption out of the picture, the GOP's chances to retain both the White House and Senate would probably increase considerably.

[Todd]

I will suggest that if Trump does die before 11/3, and thereby remove his personal flaws and corruption out of the picture, the GOP's chances to retain both the White House and Senate would probably increase considerably.

Perhaps, perhaps not.  For the presidency, what do state election laws allow or require in a case where a candidate dies? 

Perhaps, perhaps not.  Democrat electioneering relies heavily on tying Republican candidates to Trump.  It seems rather unlikely that Trump being alive or not will materially alter the outcome in elections focused on that.

[Herman]

A I will suggest that if Trump does die before 11/3, and thereby remove his personal flaws and corruption out of the picture, B the GOP's chances to retain both the White House and Senate would probably increase considerably.

A is unlikely to happen, with the best medical care in the US at hand

B not very likely either. The GOP is the Trump party.

[Karl Henning]

Biden & Harris have tested negative.

[JBS]

Perhaps, perhaps not.  For the presidency, what do state election laws allow or require in a case where a candidate dies? 

Perhaps, perhaps not.  Democrat electioneering relies heavily on tying Republican candidates to Trump.  It seems rather unlikely that Trump being alive or not will materially alter the outcome in elections focused on that.

I know it varies by state. But in theory GOP electors would cast their EC votes for Pence (assuming the GOP substitutes him) .  just like the Electoral College was meant to be.

But suppose Trump dies a few days before the election. That means the following all exit the White House as Pence is sworn in as his successor

Jared, Ivanka, Don Jr, Eric, Kimberly G.

Trump taxes, debts, dubious business dealings,  possible crimes

The Trump twitter account, Trump's narcissism, open flirting with white supremacy, bullying, etc

All that disappearing makes the idea of Pence as POTUS more appealing to people who don't like the Democrats but also can't stand Trump.

[I am sure Pence would continue the white supremacy and cuddling with Russia, but would be far more discreet about it ]

[JBS]

A is unlikely to happen, with the best medical care in the US at hand

B not very likely either. The GOP is the Trump party.

I hope A does not happen, but read the reply to Todd I just made about B.

[Todd]

But in theory GOP electors would cast their EC votes for Pence (assuming the GOP substitutes him) .  just like the Electoral College was meant to be.

I'm not interested in theory, I'm interested in facts.  For instance, in theory, the situation could mean that not all Electors cast their ballots, which hands the selection of the next president to the House. 

[T. D.]

I hope A does not happen, but read the reply to Todd I just made about B.

At the O. P.'s age, coronavirus deaths often don't occur until well over a month after infection, with long intervening hospitalization.
So there's also the scenario of a hospitalized, possibly incapacitated or terminally ill candidate on Election Day. I haven't researched, and have no idea of what would happen in that event.

[drogulus]

 
      Sen. Lee has tested positive. Both he and Trump have met with Judge Barrett recently. Mike Lee would like you to know he doesn't wear a mask by not wearing a mask, which seems like a bad idea whatever the benefits.

[JBS]

At the O. P.'s age, coronavirus deaths often don't occur until well over a month after infection, with long intervening hospitalization.
So there's also the scenario of a hospitalized, possibly incapacitated or terminally ill candidate on Election Day. I haven't researched, and have no idea of what would happen in that event.

Pence would be acting President.  Beyond that, it's anyone's guess. The legal aspects of the election would not change unless he did actually die.

[drogulus]

     Judge Barrett tested positive this summer.

     The video of Sen. Lee smooching with guests at the Barrett introduction event has a kind of incipient nostalgia "vibe".
Future people will watch documentaries about these people with the detachment of entomologists studying particularly disgusting insects. It a way it's fascinating, even exhilarating, but still disgusting.

[JBS]

 
      Sen. Lee has tested positive. Both he and Trump have met with Judge Barrett recently. Mike Lee would like you to know he doesn't wear a mask by not wearing a mask, which seems like a bad idea whatever the benefits.

It's been reported ACB had Covid19 in "late summer" and has fully recovered, which makes her not a likely vector of infection.

[MusicTurner]

Running AI with half a year's major hospital data here in Copenhagen, local university scientists now say that an average patient somewhat ~similar to #45 would face a +50% risk of being hospitalized, and a fatality rate of 10-20%.

[drogulus]

     Trump is heading to Walter Reed. The symptoms are still said to be mild. He has a fever and is feeling tired.

[Holden]

Covid19 takes out the sickly and those with compromised immune systems - the statistics demonstrate this very clearly. Trump doesn't fall into this category so I'd say he'll survive.

[Pohjolas Daughter]

     Trump is heading to Walter Reed. The symptoms are still said to be mild. He has a fever and is feeling tired.

Yes, I just heard that....turned on the news (on now); they're showing the helicopter awaiting him on the White House lawn.  Probably taking the highest precautions with him.  Wonder whether Melania will be going too?  Doesn't sound like it for the time being.

PD

[Karl Henning]

Covid19 takes out the sickly and those with compromised immune systems - the statistics demonstrate this very clearly. Trump doesn't fall into this category so I'd say he'll survive.

Yes, so there's still future jail time.