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Re: Music with Arabic theme/scale
« Reply #60 on: October 13, 2020, 01:59:07 PM »
It's the 10 year anniversary of the premiere of my Arabian themed concert piece, "Ancient Dreams"!  I learned so much through the experience of composing and performing in this performance.  It was an 18 minute tone poem for orchestra.  The recording of the concert premiere was if I recall just stereo microphones with a high end preamp.  I also recall that I had microphones at the back of the hall which I mixed in for reverb because the acoustics were nice.

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https://clyp.it/atz2sy3i

 
Some things I learned:

1. If you perform in the premiere of your own composition, you might want to make your part easier to play because you are extremely distracted on everyone else's parts/mistakes and end up screwing up the very part you wrote for you!
2. It's not as bad as you remember it was.
3. I would do it very differently today but it's not worth changing it.  It's part of your record.
4. Be very careful of the dynamics you give to the glockenspiel.  They smashed the hell out of the part and were constantly way too loud resulting in me always under playing them afterwords.  I HATE how loud they played!
5. It's very important to understand the words of John Adams who said in his blog "Do not be surprised if at the first rehearsal of your music you don't recognize the work as being your own piece".  Very, very true.  A composer needs to have an out of body experience for the first few rehearsals because it sounds nothing like what you spent the past year writing!  Eventually it will surprise you and coalesce. With a great orchestra, it will surprise you!  You'll hear things you never imagined!

The composition sounds very good and the orchestration sounds sophisticated and totally professional. :)   The chromatic passages sound cool.  I think I understand the point 5).

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Re: Music with Arabic theme/scale
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Re: Music with Arabic theme/scale
« Reply #62 on: October 16, 2020, 10:27:30 AM »
Ney and orchestra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjTIabgOr0E&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR3x78r4o9sJ7nHGC7Fm06dkzrnDVD99_DjF4ZwH2l7jLDsW7HSaZBB5WLc

Is the flute called Ney? It has a warm, attractive sound. Except for the flute part, the composition is largely based on western harmony and scale. This is a good hybrid of Arabic theme and European harmony. Atmospheric.

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Re: Music with Arabic theme/scale
« Reply #63 on: October 16, 2020, 10:29:57 AM »
Abu Simbel symphony
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmXy9crK_j4

I think this is a solid composition. I will look for a disc if it is available. The structure is organized and effective, and the melodies are penetrating beyond mannerism.  Great composition and excellent orchestration.

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Re: Music with Arabic theme/scale
« Reply #64 on: October 16, 2020, 04:28:11 PM »
Check out the first time King Tut's war trumpet's were played in 1939.   World War 2 started immediately after!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO3P5jkQmgU

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Re: Music with Arabic theme/scale
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Re: Music with Arabic theme/scale
« Reply #66 on: October 19, 2020, 05:52:01 AM »
Check out the first time King Tut's war trumpet's were played in 1939.   World War 2 started immediately after!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO3P5jkQmgU

They sound very good. I can't believer they are more than 3000 yo. Hope nobody play them anymore.

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Re: Music with Arabic theme/scale
« Reply #67 on: October 19, 2020, 05:54:34 AM »
Suleyman Elesgerov (aka. Suleiman Aleskerov). Wonderful composer from Azerbaijan.

https://youtu.be/m7UHwjHenhA

https://youtu.be/ucbQX3Jl1ZY

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Re: Music with Arabic theme/scale
« Reply #68 on: October 21, 2020, 06:55:06 PM »
Arab/Jew orchestra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GixIhuz7p40

Sounds very good!  The music is very Arabic, rather than (European) Jewish. The sliding technique of violin is very effective. That makes me wonder if there is any violin concerto in Western music requiring a slide technique. The flute sounds excellent as well. I was wondering if it was an Arabic flute or not.

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Re: Music with Arabic theme/scale
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Re: Music with Arabic theme/scale
« Reply #70 on: October 23, 2020, 04:58:40 PM »
Kuwait orchestra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf37wbNmPU0

Sounds very good! The music is a good mixture of Jazz, classic music and Arabic music. Somehow, I hear even indication of Tango music. I maybe wrong of course. Very colorful music!

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Re: Music with Arabic theme/scale
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Re: Music with Arabic theme/scale
« Reply #72 on: October 25, 2020, 01:51:14 AM »
Sounds very good! The music is a good mixture of Jazz, classic music and Arabic music. Somehow, I hear even indication of Tango music. I maybe wrong of course. Very colorful music!
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Re: Music with Arabic theme/scale
« Reply #73 on: October 27, 2020, 10:21:11 AM »
Wind of Yemen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U__dK3MIj3s

Fine and delicate composition. The music is aesthetically ethereal and phantom-like. These Singapore guys can play!

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Re: Music with Arabic theme/scale
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Re: Music with Arabic theme/scale
« Reply #75 on: November 24, 2020, 09:38:50 PM »
Overture El Horeya
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmARs_CK4Bk
Gamel Salama i found nothing on him

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Re: Music with Arabic theme/scale
« Reply #76 on: November 27, 2020, 09:03:54 AM »
Overture El Horeya
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmARs_CK4Bk
Gamel Salama i found nothing on him

The music is gorgeous and sublime. Sounds very good.

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Re: Music with Arabic theme/scale
« Reply #77 on: November 27, 2020, 09:05:24 AM »
Arabian Dances
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCSQfmC-BWI

I think this is a solid composition. I like the way music proceeds as well. I would like to listen to the music in live.

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Re: Music with Arabic theme/scale
« Reply #78 on: November 27, 2020, 04:44:26 PM »