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(poco) Sforzando

#2980
June 17, 2008, 05:58:30 AM
Quote from: lukeottevanger on June 17, 2008, 05:55:51 AM
There is a piano trio here, of course - 308 - but I hope you don't think it's Hummel. It may well be its composer's most famous work, FWIW - the only one of his that I have a recording of, anyway (actually two), though he's a well-known name. I believe this movement became so famous that it acquired a nickname. Let me check on that.....

I was referring to 308, not 304. ('Cause I missed the post with 304-7, and the note about the beginning of the alphabet, etc.)

I hope you don't think it's Hummel.
It was just a guess! I'm not sure what it is yet.
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

(poco) Sforzando

#2981
June 17, 2008, 06:01:05 AM
Quote from: lukeottevanger on June 17, 2008, 05:57:25 AM
Yes, it did, but it includes the composer's name so I can't give it to you! Simply the 'so-called ????? waltz' as my liner notes refer to it.

Honestly, I don't the piece. There's an "Arensky waltz," but inconveniently that's for two pianos.
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

lukeottevanger

#2982
June 17, 2008, 06:34:40 AM
Quote from: Sforzando on June 17, 2008, 06:01:05 AM
Honestly, I don't the piece. There's an "Arensky waltz," but inconveniently that's for two pianos.

Yes, it is, Google tells me. And that's inconvenient for me, because, fortuitously, you've stumbled on the right composer! Which means, I think, that my liner notes are wrong - this trio doesn't contain the 'Arensky waltz' at all, it seems. But then, they come from a Brilliant CD, so what do you expect?  ;D

I will say, though, that this movement struck me very forcefully when I first heard it - it has most of the qualities that go to make up a 'popular classic'.

A formality, but which of Arensky's piano trios is this one, then?

(poco) Sforzando

#2983
June 17, 2008, 06:39:15 AM
Quote from: lukeottevanger on June 17, 2008, 06:34:40 AM
Yes, it is, Google tells me. And that's inconvenient for me, because, fortuitously, you've stumbled on the right composer! Which means, I think, that my liner notes are wrong - this trio doesn't contain the 'Arensky waltz' at all, it seems. But then, they come from a Brilliant CD, so what do you expect?  ;D

I will say, though, that this movement struck me very forcefully when I first heard it - it has most of the qualities that go to make up a 'popular classic'.

A formality, but which of Arensky's piano trios is this one, then?

There's an Opus 32 Piano Trio No. 1 in D minor and and Opus 73 in F minor. I say opus 32!

Maybe he used the same waltz in both the trio and the suite!
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

lukeottevanger

#2984
June 17, 2008, 06:42:46 AM
Opus 32 is right. One of Arensky's most-played works, unlike the second trio, with some charming music - Schumann-meets-Tchaikovsky-meets-Rachmaninov. I don't think it shares material with the two piano piece, from what I've just read.

Just for clarity - 'end of the alphabet' meant W, X, Y, Z; 'beginning' means A, B, C.

(Because A-C is the first of my score-containing subfolders on my desktop, and T-Z is the last...  ;D )

J.Z. Herrenberg

#2985
June 17, 2008, 06:53:22 AM
Congrats to Sforzando.  0:)
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

lukeottevanger

#2986
June 17, 2008, 06:54:41 AM
Johan, one of 'your' composers is hiding in here somewhere....

J.Z. Herrenberg

#2987
June 17, 2008, 07:04:10 AM Last Edit: June 17, 2008, 07:06:08 AM by Jezetha
Quote from: lukeottevanger on June 17, 2008, 06:54:41 AM
Johan, one of 'your' composers is hiding in here somewhere....

What!? I must look again...

I now see I have missed several of them...
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

lukeottevanger

#2988
June 17, 2008, 07:08:40 AM
Going out for about 4 hours. Hope you find some!

lukeottevanger

#2989
June 17, 2008, 07:09:24 AM
And get this thread up to the 3000 post mark whilst you're at it.

lukeottevanger

#2990
June 17, 2008, 07:09:41 AM
Like I'm trying to do here.

lukeottevanger

#2991
June 17, 2008, 07:09:54 AM
See?

J.Z. Herrenberg

#2992
June 17, 2008, 07:10:14 AM
#315, Alban Berg, Abschied
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

lukeottevanger

#2993
June 17, 2008, 07:12:19 AM
Bloody hell, that was good! I've got quite a few of these very early Berg songs, but they're pretty obscure! Good work  :)

lukeottevanger

#2994
June 17, 2008, 07:13:35 AM Last Edit: June 17, 2008, 12:59:07 PM by lukeottevanger

lukeottevanger

#2995
June 17, 2008, 07:16:04 AM
That Berg one wasn't the one I meant by 'one of 'your' composers', so that's still waiting for you (though of course you've as much right to Berg as anyone else  ;D )

lukeottevanger

#2996
June 17, 2008, 07:16:52 AM
And now I really must go.

Oh - 3000 posts!! Who'd have thought it!!  ;D

J.Z. Herrenberg

#2997
June 17, 2008, 07:20:03 AM Last Edit: June 17, 2008, 07:38:09 AM by Jezetha
That #312 looks familiar...

Bye Bye. I'll study some more...

Even I don't know everything by 'my' composers. Could Alfvén be there?
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

lukeottevanger

#2998
June 17, 2008, 11:20:46 AM
Well, he's one of 'yours', and he starts with an A. So he could.


But he's not.

312 wasn't the one I was thinking of - going by my own composer-GMGer associations that's a Guido piece!  ;D

lukeottevanger

#2999
June 17, 2008, 11:26:01 AM Last Edit: June 17, 2008, 11:42:23 AM by lukeottevanger
Actually, that's not a bad idea (I tried it once before as a matter of fact) - here are my 'GMG associations' for some of my remaining scores. I stress, though, that this doesn't mean only these GMGers will know either the composer or the piece, only that their posting history has led me particularly to associate them with the composer.

305 - Karl
306 - Larry, were he around
309 - Greg
312 - Guido
one of the others - Johan  ;D  >:D
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