Quiz: Mystery scores

J.Z. Herrenberg · June 03, 2008, 08:29:05 AM

http://orangecow.org/pythonet/sketches/rafbante.htm

karlhenning · June 03, 2008, 08:32:35 AM

Um...cabbage crates coming over the briny?

Harry · June 03, 2008, 08:39:40 AM

Quote from: Jezetha on June 03, 2008, 08:29:05 AM
http://orangecow.org/pythonet/sketches/rafbante.htm

Jolly good!
Thanks Johan, its clear now!

Harry · June 03, 2008, 08:42:09 AM

Quote from: karlhenning on June 03, 2008, 08:32:35 AM
Um...cabbage crates coming over the briny?

Bunch of Monkey's on your ceiling Sir!
Grab your egg and fours and let's get the bacon delivered!

J.Z. Herrenberg · June 03, 2008, 08:42:48 AM

Quote from: karlhenning on June 03, 2008, 08:32:35 AM
Um...cabbage crates coming over the briny?

Now you're talking sense ('the briny' is poetic for 'the sea')!

karlhenning · June 03, 2008, 08:44:15 AM

Quote from: Jezetha on June 03, 2008, 08:42:48 AM
Now you're talking sense ('the briny' is poetic for 'the sea')!

And is a pun on cabbage . . . that's probably the one banter-line in the sketch which I twigged

greg · June 03, 2008, 09:56:17 AM

LO 288- Xenakis- Charisma

lukeottevanger · June 03, 2008, 11:50:57 AM

Quote from: karlhenning on June 03, 2008, 08:21:44 AM
Top-hole. Bally Jerry, pranged his kite right in the how's-your-father; hairy blighter, dicky-birded, feathered back on his sammy, took a waspy, flipped over on his Betty Harpers and caught his can in the Bertie.

Have any of you not privileged to live on this Septic Isle seen Armstrong and Miller's fabulous RAF pilot sketches?

http://www.youtube.com/v/lwNQf08Kxsw

Tons more on youtube

Oh yeah - all guesses correct - Chrone's Eben one (obviously keeping all that text in did make it too easy!); Greg's Xenakis one; and Sforzando is bang on with his Carter vocal chamber guess.

I'll go and update the list now....

lukeottevanger · June 03, 2008, 11:56:16 AM

(poco) Sforzando · June 03, 2008, 01:10:16 PM

Quote from: lukeottevanger on June 03, 2008, 11:50:57 AM
Oh yeah - all guesses correct - Chrone's Eben one (obviously keeping all that text in did make it too easy!); Greg's Xenakis one; and Sforzando is bang on with his Carter vocal chamber guess.

That's a relief. Most likely: "A Mirror on which to Dwell," though I get all those cycles confused in my mind.

lukeottevanger · June 03, 2008, 01:32:28 PM

Yes, that's the one. - it's the 'Sandpiper' song, in which the piping solo oboe is, in a sense, the bird itself.

lukeottevanger · June 03, 2008, 01:55:56 PM

Clues, anyone?

271 - Schreker - ? - (Sforzando)
See 284 for the form of this work.

276 - ? -
277 - ? -
These two go together (though not like ramma lamma lamma ka dinga da dinga dong). Unfortunately they've become separated from nos 274 and 275 - the clue that applied to those two also applies to these two.

280 - ? -
Shares something with Adams' Harmonium (specifically the score sample I posted as no 153); with the climax of the second movement of Shostakovich 6 (according to Sean), with pieces by Strauss, Walton and Schulhoff. But a finer work than any of these, and I prefer not to think of this exalted music in such graphic terms, even when the top of the page makes clear exactly what's happening here. The piano isn't all there is to hear in this piece.

282 - ? -
A symphony, whose key scheme may be a reference to that of Beethoven's 5th The score was lost, though rediscovered in its composer's lifetime (in a bookshop in Leipzig); however, the composer never learnt of this and often afterwards tended to discount it in the numbering of his symphonies.

283 - ? -
A Whitman setting

284 - ? -
See 271 for the form of this work.

Chrone · June 03, 2008, 03:46:26 PM

LO283: Adams, "The Wound-Dresser"

I should have been able to get that without the clue. $:-\$

lukeottevanger · June 04, 2008, 02:32:50 AM

Yes indeed. A piece that really hooked me when I was a teenager; slightly less so now, as I'm a little more jaded - it's a very emotional piece which knows exactly where there is a heart-string to be plucked and how to do so. OTOH there is absolutely no doubt that Adams meant the piece, which is bound up with his own father's illness, very sincerely indeed, and one can only admire the extremely skillful way Adams manages to wring every drop of expression from his text. If one surrenders to this piece, as perhaps one should without questioning, it is very powerful indeed.

Adams shows great sensitivity to musical imagery here. Sometimes what he does is obvious, but he does it supremely well - for instance, the violin solo accompanying 'the hurt and wounded I pacify with soothing hand', which begins low, atonal, fast and jagged but which quickly rises, becomes smoother, slower, calmer. Sometimes, though, he's managed to find an image that is just 'right', but heaven knows how or why - at 'On, on I go. Open doors of time, open hospital doors' the music turns to a slow, dragging, melancholy waltz which mysteriously conjures up visions of these long corridors of time, the past, memory and nostalgia.

karlhenning · June 04, 2008, 03:11:45 AM

Well said, Luke.

(poco) Sforzando · June 04, 2008, 03:58:38 AM

284, 271: I assume you're thinking of monodrama, with the first one being Erwartung. I think the ending with its rising scales of one of these may be an allusion to Schoenberg's masterpiece.

Mark G. Simon · June 04, 2008, 04:10:23 AM

Quote from: lukeottevanger on June 03, 2008, 01:55:56 PM
282 - ? -
A symphony, whose key scheme may be a reference to that of Beethoven's 5th The score was lost, though rediscovered in its composer's lifetime (in a bookshop in Leipzig); however, the composer never learnt of this and often afterwards tended to discount it in the numbering of his symphonies.

This has got to be Dvorak's Bells of Zlonice (Symphony no. 1)

lukeottevanger · June 04, 2008, 05:28:56 AM

Quote from: Sforzando on June 04, 2008, 03:58:38 AM
284, 271: I assume you're thinking of monodrama, with the first one being Erwartung. I think the ending with its rising scales of one of these may be an allusion to Schoenberg's masterpiece.

No, not monodrama; in Schoenberg's output the piece is earlier than Erwartung, but is equally important and one of AS's finest and most famous works. I only it hope it is the first of its type - I can't think of others, anyway. The allusion to Schoenberg is in the horns. (Again, I'm only assuming it's a deliberate allusion - it must be, surely).

Mark, The Bells of Zlonice is correct.

J.Z. Herrenberg · June 04, 2008, 05:40:06 AM

Quote from: lukeottevanger on June 04, 2008, 05:28:56 AM
No, not monodrama; in Schoenberg's output the piece is earlier than Erwartung, but is equally important and one of AS's finest and most famous works. I only it hope it is the first of its type - I can't think of others, anyway. The allusion to Schoenberg is in the horns. (Again, I'm only assuming it's a deliberate allusion - it must be, surely).

Mark, The Bells of Zlonice is correct.

Kammersinfonie?!

lukeottevanger · June 04, 2008, 05:41:19 AM

Ja

Quiz: Mystery scores

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