Your Favorite Orchestral Serenades

Started by Florestan, February 14, 2022, 10:51:33 AM

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Florestan

(Inspired by an exchange in the WAYLT thread. You may name as many as you want)

My list:

1. Mozart (no particular order): Haffner, Posthorn, Eine kleine Nacht Musik, Gran Partita, Serenata Notturna, KV 375, all of the rest

2. Tchaikovsky: Op. 48

3. Dvorak: Op. 22

4. Brahms: Op. 11, Op. 16

5. Robert Fuchs: Serenade No.3 in E minor, Op.21

Honorable mention Elgar: Serenade for Strings in E minor Op. 20






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vandermolen

#1
Bax: Symphonic Serenade for String Orchestra

Tchaikovsky: Serenade for Strings

Lennox Berkeley: Serenade for Strings

+ Wiren (having read Daverz's post below)
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Jo498

Full orchestra:
Brahms #1
Mozart: Posthorn
Mozart: Haffner

Strings only:
Dvorak
Tchaikovsky
Mozart K 525

Winds:
Dvorak
Mozart K 361
Mozart K 388
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Symphonic Addict

Stenhammar
Brahms 1
Suk
Dvorak
Korngold Symphonic Serenade
Mozart Posthorn

Oddly enough I'm not as keen on the Tchaikovsky as I should.
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Florestan

Quote from: Symphonic Addict on February 14, 2022, 01:08:03 PM
Oddly enough I'm not as keen on the Tchaikovsky as I should.

De gustibus...

FWIW the Tempo di Valse from Op. 48 is my favorite movement of any Serenade I've ever heard, Mozart included. Pure bliss.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSGKRfEUqVk
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ist die Sache, hahaha,
drum verzeihn Sie, hahaha,
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Quote from: Florestan on February 14, 2022, 01:40:32 PM
De gustibus...

FWIW the Tempo di Valse from Op. 48 is my favorite movement of any Serenade I've ever heard, Mozart included. Pure bliss.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSGKRfEUqVk


I understand why, that is an empeccable tune, incredibly catchy and memorable, and surely it must bring many memories to your mind, I guess. Maybe it is the 3rd movement the one that convinces me the least? I'm not sure, actually. The work has everything to give me a good impression, though. Lovely stuff.

If I could include his Souvenir de Florence as an orchestral serenade, I would go for it!
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amw

Dvořák: op. 22 (for strings), op. 44 (for winds)
Bartók: BB 118/Sz. 113 (for strings)
Britten: op. 31 (for tenor, horn and strings)
Sibelius: op. 69, nos. 1 and 2 (for violin and orchestra)
Brahms: op. 11 and 16 (for orchestra)
Suk: op. 6 (for strings)
Reger: op. 95 (for orchestra)
Tchaikovsky: op. 48 (for strings), op. 55 (for orchestra)
Fuchs: op. 9 (for strings)
Stenhammar: op. 31 (for orchestra)
Mozart: KV 185, 203, 204, 239, 250, 320, 334, 361, 375, 388, 525 (for various ensembles)

The restriction here to orchestral works, however, excludes the two or three greatest serenades/divertimenti in music history, which are of course Mozart's KV 563 and Beethoven's Op. 130 and 131.

Symphonic Addict

Quote from: amw on February 14, 2022, 07:08:17 PM
Reger: op. 95 (for orchestra)
Tchaikovsky: op. 55 (for orchestra)

You're cheating with the Tchaikovsky. That is a Suite.  ;)

As for the Reger, what a dense piece. It's not something I want to hear everyday.
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amw

Quote from: Symphonic Addict on February 14, 2022, 07:17:39 PM
You're cheating with the Tchaikovsky. That is a Suite.  ;)
Arguably the Tchaikovsky suites are closer to the traditional concept a serenade than the actual "Serenade" op. 48—all movements are character pieces, none are in sonata form, and the overall character is lighter. I can, however, replace it with the Sérénade mélancolique op. 26 if it is voided.

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As for the Reger, what a dense piece. It's not something I want to hear everyday.
Honestly, it might be my favourite Reger piece, although the Violin Concerto is up there as well. I love the super-chromatic harmonic language, the orchestration, and the sort of fin-de-siècle nostalgia of it all, similar to the Suk Serenade on the same list (one could also compare/contrast with the much shorter serenades by Elgar and Victor Herbert, although I didn't name them specifically).

Daverz

Love the Stenhammar.  Would also add Dag Wiren's.

kyjo

#10
I'm mostly repeating ones that have already been mentioned:

For orchestra:
Arnold (for small orchestra)
Brahms no. 1
Korngold Baby Serenade (8))
Mozart no. 7 Haffner
Georg Schumann
Stenhammar

For string orchestra:
Lennox Berkeley
Dvorak
Fuchs no. 3
Suk
Wiren

Other:
Beethoven (for string trio in D major)
Damase (for flute and strings)
Dohnanyi (for string trio)
Hanson (for flute, harp, and strings)
Merikanto (for cello and strings)
Suk (for cello and piano, op. 3/2)
"Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is not enough for music" - Sergei Rachmaninoff

vandermolen

#11
+ Moeran's Serenade and Hanson's (as mentioned above by Kyle).
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Irons

Do they all not follow in the slipstream of Mozart?
You must have a very good opinion of yourself to write a symphony - John Ireland.

I opened the door people rushed through and I was left holding the knob - Bo Diddley.

Roasted Swan

the Bruch Serenade for Violin & Orchestra on this disc is quite quite delightful.......


Jo498

Quote from: Irons on February 16, 2022, 06:52:00 AM
Do they all not follow in the slipstream of Mozart?

I wonder how well known Mozart's serenades were in the 19th and early 20th century. Composers might have known a few of them, but the general public probably not. There also seems a lack of serenades for over half a century in the first half of the 19th century. Their recurrence in the 1870s or so seems almost a neoclassical trend.
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- Blaise Pascal

Brian

Tchaikovsky
Suk
Wirén
Brahms No. 1
Dvorák (winds)
Stenhammar
Fuchs No. 1

LKB

The Brahms Serenade in D Major ( no. 2 iirc ), and RVW's Serenade to Music.
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Symphonic Addict

Quote from: LKB on February 17, 2022, 07:27:56 PM
The Brahms Serenade in D Major ( no. 2 iirc ), and RVW's Serenade to Music.

No. 2 is in A major

Though both qualify!
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LKB

I stand corrected, thanks. I had the pleasure of performing the Brahms back when l was still an oboist, and that feeling has stayed with me... but not the title, apparently.  :D
Mit Flügeln, die ich mir errungen...

ritter

Strangely, apart from Mozart's, I cannot recall any composition for orchestra with the word "Serenade" in its title that I can call a favourite.  ::)