Women’s Soccer/Football World Cup 2023

[Dry Brett Kavanaugh]

Yes just started. While I don't like men's World Cup, I like Women's World Cup. I'm rooting for Japan, Morocco, and Ireland. 

[Lisztianwagner]

I'll support Germany and Italy.

[Dry Brett Kavanaugh]

I'll support Germany and Italy.

I heard that there is a 16 yo girl in the Italian team.

[Lisztianwagner]

I heard that there is a 16 yo girl in the Italian team.

Indeed, Giulia Dragoni, she plays as midfielder for Barcelona Atlètic. She must be really good to be part of the Italian National Team at such a young age, I read she is the youngest Italian footballer ever called up.

Out of curiosity, why don't you like men's World Cup, Manabu?

[Dry Brett Kavanaugh]

Indeed, Giulia Dragoni, she plays as midfielder for Barcelona Atlètic. She must be really good to be part of the Italian National Team at such a young age, I read she is the youngest Italian footballer ever called up.

Out of curiosity, why don't you like men's World Cup, Manabu?

First of all, I don't trust FIFA at all. Plus, I'm not thrilled by the racist and parochial behaviors of players and audience in Mens WC. Women's World Cup is not perfect, but the atmosphere is significantly better.

[Dry Brett Kavanaugh]

Philippines beat New Zealand.


https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/24/football/new-zealand-switzerland-norway-womens-world-cup-2023-spt-intl/index.html

[Pohjolas Daughter]

Congrats to England for their win today!  I caught a tiny bit of it here (rather early).  Sorry though to see that one of your star(I believe?) players was taken off the field on a stretcher. 

PD

[Irons]

Feel sorry for Haiti. Lost by a single goal to England and China despite playing well. Will be rooting for them when they play Denmark.

[Dry Brett Kavanaugh]

Feel sorry for Haiti. Lost by a single goal to England and China despite playing well. Will be rooting for them when they play Denmark.

0-1 to England is a pretty good result!
Iron, we share many similar interests and preferences, ie. tube amps, mono recordings, etc!

[Irons]

0-1 to England is a pretty good result!
Iron, we share many similar interests and preferences, ie. tube amps, mono recordings, etc!

Blues too by any chance? 

What I should have added both goals scored against Haiti were penalties. Also they were denied a cast-iron one against Denmark.

[Pohjolas Daughter]

Catching a bit of Sweden vs. Italy.  Amazing how Sweden was running away with it in the first half and now 4-0. 

PD

[Dry Brett Kavanaugh]

Blues too by any chance? 

What I should have added both goals scored against Haiti were penalties. Also they were denied a cast-iron one against Denmark.

Yes, I like Son House, Otis Rush, early Albert King, etc.

[Irons]

Yes, I like Son House, Otis Rush, early Albert King, etc.

Albert King's "Born Under A Bad Sign" a classic. Chicago Blues are great also hardcore country from artists like Sleepy John Estes.

[Irons]

Blimey, Japan smashed it!

[Pohjolas Daughter]

Blimey, Japan smashed it!

Just read the score...wow! 

PD

[Pohjolas Daughter]

O.k., a question for you all (from your mostly-not-following-footie-friend....moi), so, I'm currently looking at ESPN's website and the section on the women's world cup football and looking at the results.  Trying to make sense of the numbers.  Looking at Group E and trying to figure out some things.  I figured out what the various abbreviations mean, but am confused by a couple of things like GD (which I get means "goal difference" and shows/indicates how well the teams were playing in terms of being aggressive and scoring goals and also in terms of how well they played defensively--as in defending their own goal, etc.).  But how are the "P" as in points determined?  Both the US and Netherlands currently have 4 points, so what does this mean?  And how do they come up with this number?

Confused here,

PD

p.s.  And how is it determined as to who advances?

p.p.s.  Here's a link to what I'm looking at:  https://www.espn.com/soccer/standings/_/league/FIFA.WWC/sort/pointsfor/dir/desc

[Papy Oli]

PD,

GP: Games played
It is 3 pts for a Win (W), 1 pt for a draw (D), 0 pt for a loss (L).

Goal Difference is F minus A i.e. goals scored minus goals conceded.

Only the top two teams of each group after 3 games go through to the next stage.

In case of equal points between 2 teams after the pool games, I think it either the overall GD that separates the teams or their result in their specific pool match. 

[Papy Oli]

I have found this for group E outcomes 

With their loss to Portugal on Thursday, Vietnam has been eliminated.

After their draw with the Netherlands, the United States is still in solid position to advance. With a win over Portugal on August 1, the United States would lock up a spot in the knockout round. They can also advance with a draw against Portugal. In terms of winning Group E, the US can do that with a win over Portugal and a loss by the Netherlands, or if both teams win, the US can still win the group based on goal differential. If the US and Portugal play to a draw, the US will only win the group if the Netherlands also lose or draw.

A loss to Portugal coupled with a Netherlands win or draw, and the United States is eliminated. The US can still get in with a loss, provided the Netherlands still lose as well, and the United States wins the tiebreaker.

Netherlands is in a similar situation, but with a slight twist. They advance with a win over Vietnam, regardless of what happens in the US-Portugal match. Should they win as well as Portugal, the Netherlands would win the group. If the Netherlands plays to a draw with Vietnam, they also advance to the knockout round, although they would not be able to win the group in this scenario. Should they draw and the US also draw, the US would have the tiebreaker advantage. Should they draw and Portugal win, then Portugal would win the group.

A loss to Vietnam coupled with a Portugal win would eliminate the Netherlands. They can still advance with a loss, provided the US wins. If Portugal and the US play to a draw, and the Netherlands lose, the Netherlands is likely eliminated as both teams would be sitting on four points, but in that scenario Portugal would have the better tiebreaker (both teams have a goal differential of +1 right now).

For Portugal, they advance with a win over the United States, or a draw and a loss by the Netherlands. A loss to the US would eliminate Portugal, as would a draw and a win or draw from the Netherlands.

[Papy Oli]

Blimey, Japan smashed it!

When I switched the TV on this morning, Japan was 3-0 up with only 3 chances on target and only 22% possession. Efficient!!

[Pohjolas Daughter]

PD,

GP: Games played
It is 3 pts for a Win (W), 1 pt for a draw (D), 0 pt for a loss (L).

Goal Difference is F minus A i.e. goals scored minus goals conceded.

Only the top two teams of each group after 3 games go through to the next stage.

In case of equal points between 2 teams after the pool games, I think it either the overall GD that separates the teams or their result in their specific pool match. 

Thanks, Papy.  I did get what it meant by goal difference--which makes sense in that you would think that the better teams would be good at both scoring and defending and understood how they came up with the difference.

That is very helpful though to understand how the points are (or were) awarded.  Nice to know about the top two going through.  I suspect, like you conjectured that in terms of ties that it might go down to how did the tied teams do against each other--which is what I think that you were suggesting?

Another question:  How is it determined which group plays the next group in the following rounds?

Full of questions  ,

PD