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Re: Stockhausen's Spaceship
« Reply #640 on: November 28, 2013, 02:47:42 PM »
Is there literature on that? I didn´t know. I´d like to read some, anything you find particularly interesting?

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Re: Stockhausen's Spaceship
« Reply #641 on: November 29, 2013, 05:45:08 AM »
Wow! Music for every season! He is so utterly awesome! (I'm missing how any of that has to do with Advent/Christmas, at all, at all, but let that slide.)
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« Reply #642 on: November 29, 2013, 06:39:43 AM »
And, had he lived longer, minutes and seconds would also have been covered.

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« Reply #643 on: November 29, 2013, 06:54:52 AM »
I'd like to say again just how supremely awesome Stockhousen is!
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« Reply #644 on: November 29, 2013, 07:11:03 AM »
I only know Dienstag fully and the electronic parts of some of the other days, so I can´t give an opinion.

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Re: Stockhausen's Spaceship
« Reply #645 on: December 04, 2013, 04:37:41 AM »
STOCKHAUSEN WEBSITE NEWS!

December 5, 2013 marks the sixth anniversary of Karlheinz Stockhausen's passing into eternity.


Maybe.

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Re: Stockhausen's Spaceship
« Reply #646 on: December 04, 2013, 05:13:37 AM »
Two petitions:

1. I like Hymnen a lot.  I wonder what other works by Stockhausen, even if not so massive. would fall into the same category or be similar to any extent.

2. I would like to listen to opinions about Ceylon, Prozession, Mixture and Kurzwellen.

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Re: Stockhausen's Spaceship
« Reply #647 on: December 04, 2013, 02:43:11 PM »
Thank you, James  :)

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Re: Stockhausen's Spaceship
« Reply #648 on: December 18, 2013, 04:03:04 AM »
From Kathinka Pasveer's Facebook:

Today we received the message that Michael Vetter has passed away on December 7th.

Fortunately, we have just finished a fantastic recording of EXPO for 3 which will be released soon:

CD 104 of the Stockhausen Complete Edition was recorded at Sound Studio N, Cologne, with Kathinka Pasveer, recording director and mixing and Günther Kasper, sound engineer.
Natascha Nikreprelevic, Michael Vetter and F.X.Randomiz realised three different versions of EXPO on October 12th 2013 without interruption or later corrections. The second and third version were choosen for the present edition and were mixed on October 13th, 20th and December 1st 2013.

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Re: Stockhausen's Spaceship
« Reply #649 on: December 21, 2013, 07:24:04 AM »
May I please have recording reccomendations? I am almost completely new to Stockhausen, and am primarily interested in his serial compositions.

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Re: Stockhausen's Spaceship
« Reply #650 on: December 21, 2013, 07:40:27 AM »
May I please have recording reccomendations? I am almost completely new to Stockhausen, and am primarily interested in his serial compositions.

If you're interested in mid to late-20th Century music, then my suggestion is listen to a real composer like Schnittke or Hartmann. You'll dig their music, Andy. For a metalhead like you, these two composers are almost self-recommending. 8)

Some musical examples of both composers:

Schnittke -

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/utC06VN3XIA" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/utC06VN3XIA</a>

Hartmann -

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/N5AmqY5OSX8" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/N5AmqY5OSX8</a>
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Re: Stockhausen's Spaceship
« Reply #651 on: December 21, 2013, 08:08:54 AM »
If you're interested in mid to late-20th Century music, then my suggestion is listen to a real composer like Schnittke or Hartmann. You'll dig their music, Andy. For a metalhead like you, these two composers are almost self-recommending. 8)

Some musical examples of both composers:

Schnittke -

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/utC06VN3XIA" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/utC06VN3XIA</a>

Hartmann -

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/N5AmqY5OSX8" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/N5AmqY5OSX8</a>

Hi MI! I do like Schnittke, especially his Viola Concerto, but now I'm interested in Hartmann, thank you!

Here is a good starter kit ..

Klavierstücke
Gruppen
Kontakte
Zeitmasze
Hymnen
Momente
Stimmung
Mantra
Music for flute, piccolo flute, alto flute
Michaels Reise
Invisible Choirs
Music for clarinet, bass clarinet, basset-horn
Luzifers Tanz
Oktophonie
Music for trumpet, piccolo trumpet, flugelhorn
Electronic Music with Sound Scenes of Friday
Welt-parlament
Lichter-Wasser
Strahlen
Music for saxophone
Freude
Treue
Cosmic Pulses
Tierkreis


This is perfect, James, thank you!

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Re: Stockhausen's Spaceship
« Reply #652 on: December 21, 2013, 10:10:16 AM »
Hi MI! I do like Schnittke, especially his Viola Concerto, but now I'm interested in Hartmann, thank you!

Keeping it Off-topic  8)

The ultimate Hartmann experience:


Or for a smaller dose:


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Re: Stockhausen's Spaceship
« Reply #653 on: December 22, 2013, 08:50:20 AM »
Hi MI! I do like Schnittke, especially his Viola Concerto, but now I'm interested in Hartmann, thank you!

Excellent, Andy. Do you know Schnittke's Requiem or Faust Cantata? Karlo (North Star) suggested outstanding recordings for you to check out in regards to Hartmann. I think he'll be right up your alley. 8)
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« Reply #654 on: December 22, 2013, 01:47:05 PM »
Excellent, Andy. Do you know Schnittke's Requiem or Faust Cantata? Karlo (North Star) suggested outstanding recordings for you to check out in regards to Hartmann. I think he'll be right up your alley. 8)

Hi MI! Getting right into Hartmann lately. I also liked Stockhausen's Invisible Choir.

I've got the Requiem on my short to-listen list, thanks to everyone!

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Re: Stockhausen's Spaceship
« Reply #655 on: December 31, 2013, 08:58:16 AM »
I'm curious- if KHS's stuff is all, let's say, 'religious', how can 'normal' people be expected to perform in his Operas? I mean, I saw the 'friars' pic above and wondered, Are these real friars, or just actors. Knowing that actors are sooooo impure, how can they be used for his music? Wouldn't you need real initiates?

Would Stockhausen benefit from real 'adepts' or psychics, or whatever, performing instead of just mere muuusicians??

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Re: Stockhausen's Spaceship
« Reply #656 on: December 31, 2013, 09:01:25 AM »
Happy new year, snypsss!
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Re: Stockhausen's Spaceship
« Reply #657 on: December 31, 2013, 09:16:00 AM »
I'm curious- if KHS's stuff is all, let's say, 'religious', how can 'normal' people be expected to perform in his Operas? I mean, I saw the 'friars' pic above and wondered, Are these real friars, or just actors. Knowing that actors are sooooo impure, how can they be used for his music? Wouldn't you need real initiates?

Would Stockhausen benefit from real 'adepts' or psychics, or whatever, performing instead of just mere muuusicians??

Have you listened to Luzifers-Abschied? Quite worthwhile and it presents Stockhausen at his darkest (it's the setting where all those 'friars' are integral to the work).

The answer to the question about adepts and psychics vs. mere musicians is obvious from his considerations about the performance of his intuitive pieces.
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Re: Stockhausen's Spaceship
« Reply #658 on: January 18, 2014, 06:19:40 PM »
Teatro alla Scala - March 24th 2014

Maurizio Pollini
piano


Programme 
Ludwig van Beethoven
Sonata in F sharp major op. 78
Sonatina in G major op. 79
Sonata in E flat major op. 81a (“Les Adieux”)
Sonata in E min. op. 90

Karlheinz Stockhausen
Klavierstück X


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I've also heard Pollini is planning on recording Stockhausen's Klavierstücke for Deutsche Grammophon.

(fingers crossed)


At least a couple of Pollini's performances of some of the Klavierstucke can be found on Youtube.

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Re: Stockhausen's Spaceship
« Reply #659 on: January 18, 2014, 06:36:53 PM »
Stockhausen: "Zeitmasze"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUZkz8myaEM

Interesting work from 1955 in which Stockhausen experimented with "tempo counterpoint", i.e. having the instruments play independent of a common tempo telling some players to play their parts " as fast as possible" or "as slow as possible" while also precisely noting other parts.  This kind of writing also influenced some of the Klavierstücke.  He  heard David Tudor play some keyboard works of John Cage when the pair toured Europe ion 1954 and Stockhausen was impressed with Tudor's using various non-traditional techniques (e.g. Klavierstücke X uses clusters similar to the ones he heard Tudor perform).  He dedicated the keyboard works to Tudor.