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Re: Ernest Bloch (1880-1959)
« Reply #140 on: September 30, 2018, 02:11:32 AM »


Is there a more epic and stunning first symphony than this one? Walton and Langaard are other superb examples, but at the moment I'm enjoying the thoroughly glorious Bloch, what a boisterous tour de force this is! And magical moments aplenty, music highly suggestive, lush and sumptuous, featuring some of the most cataclysmic climaxes in the music literature. I love this, the terrific blend between Strauss, Mahler and Respighi (mostly) and the Bloch's emergent voice is just astounding, a desert-island work for sure. I tend to prefer this version to that of Naxos, though.

The redemptive ending of that symphony is one of my favourites - I find it very moving. I wonder if you know Harold Truscott's Symphony Cesar? It ends in a similar way, although perhaps with a greater level of 'glowering darkness' rather than redemption. If you don't know it you might like it.
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Re: Ernest Bloch (1880-1959)
« Reply #141 on: September 30, 2018, 10:48:18 AM »
The redemptive ending of that symphony is one of my favourites - I find it very moving. I wonder if you know Harold Truscott's Symphony Cesar? It ends in a similar way, although perhaps with a greater level of 'glowering darkness' rather than redemption. If you don't know it you might like it.

Truscott's Symphony? Don't really, but I'll investigate it if you say that has a moving ending.

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Re: Ernest Bloch (1880-1959)
« Reply #142 on: September 30, 2018, 11:46:08 AM »
Truscott's Symphony? Don't really, but I'll investigate it if you say that has a moving ending.
I enjoy the whole Symphony Cesar. In some ways I think that it is not dissimilar to the Bloch symphony.
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Re: Ernest Bloch (1880-1959)
« Reply #143 on: February 22, 2019, 09:11:50 AM »
A wonderful new disc in terms of programme, performances and recording quality:
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Re: Ernest Bloch (1880-1959)
« Reply #144 on: February 15, 2020, 03:12:30 AM »
Bumping up Bloch to recommend this very nice CD. I like all three works on this Capriccio CD. I've also just read right through this thread (mainly me repeating myself ad nauseam  ::)) but I noticed very little comment on the Violin Concerto, which is one of his best known (or least unknown) works. I rate it very highly as it has all the characteristic Bloch ingredients - powerful, moving in places, memorable, a bit Hollywood biblical epic like, visionary etc. any other views?


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Re: Ernest Bloch (1880-1959)
« Reply #145 on: February 15, 2020, 06:49:14 AM »
From the left field (again) comes this terrific version of the violin concerto:



It has been issued on Turnabout, Lys, Naxos, but also in the big box devoted to the violinist on Membran and the Warner box of Munch non-RCA recordings. A truly epochal interpretation.

Edit: I should have added that Bloch wrote the concerto for Szigeti.
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Re: Ernest Bloch (1880-1959)
« Reply #146 on: February 15, 2020, 11:20:26 AM »
From the left field (again) comes this terrific version of the violin concerto:



It has been issued on Turnabout, Lys, Naxos, but also in the big box devoted to the violinist on Membran and the Warner box of Munch non-RCA recordings. A truly epochal interpretation.

Edit: I should have added that Bloch wrote the concerto for Szigeti.

Excellent! I'm sure that I have that CD (somewhere  ::)).
Thanks André.
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Re: Ernest Bloch (1880-1959)
« Reply #147 on: February 16, 2020, 06:46:44 AM »
I have not explored the Bloch discography as widely as Jeffrey, something I need to address. Two recordings hold hold a special place which I rate highly are the violin concerto played by Menuhin supported by Kletzki conducting the Philharmonia and Concerto Grosso 1&2 on Mercury with Howard Hanson with his Eastman-Rochester Symphony.
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Re: Ernest Bloch (1880-1959)
« Reply #148 on: February 16, 2020, 09:56:57 AM »
I have not explored the Bloch discography as widely as Jeffrey, something I need to address. Two recordings hold hold a special place which I rate highly are the violin concerto played by Menuhin supported by Kletzki conducting the Philharmonia and Concerto Grosso 1&2 on Mercury with Howard Hanson with his Eastman-Rochester Symphony.
Those are fine discs Lol. This was one of my earliest and happiest Bloch discoveries (taken out the record library on LP).
It's recently been reissued by Alto very cheaply I think:

If the image doesn't appear it's the 'Israel Symphony, and 'Schelomo' performed by Zara Nelsova and the Utah SO with that fine conductor Maurice Abravanel on the Vanguard label.
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Re: Ernest Bloch (1880-1959)
« Reply #149 on: February 16, 2020, 02:51:43 PM »
I have not explored the Bloch discography as widely as Jeffrey, something I need to address. Two recordings hold hold a special place which I rate highly are the violin concerto played by Menuhin supported by Kletzki conducting the Philharmonia and Concerto Grosso 1&2 on Mercury with Howard Hanson with his Eastman-Rochester Symphony.

I'll put in a vote for Elmar Oliveira.  The coupled Lees concerto is also fantastic.




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Re: Ernest Bloch (1880-1959)
« Reply #150 on: February 16, 2020, 10:51:05 PM »
I'll put in a vote for Elmar Oliveira.  The coupled Lees concerto is also fantastic.


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Re: Ernest Bloch (1880-1959)
« Reply #151 on: February 17, 2020, 01:28:21 AM »
Those are fine discs Lol. This was one of my earliest and happiest Bloch discoveries (taken out the record library on LP).
It's recently been reissued by Alto very cheaply I think:

If the image doesn't appear it's the 'Israel Symphony, and 'Schelomo' performed by Zara Nelsova and the Utah SO with that fine conductor Maurice Abravanel on the Vanguard label.

I do have that one, Jeffrey. A WRC LP issue, also on WRC and untypical of the label along with Schoenberg and Berg, Bloch’s Four Episodes for Chamber Orchestra. I have no memory of the piece, do you know it? Checking out my shelves I have two recordings of violin sonatas. I listened to the Stern CBS issue recently and found the recording uncomfortably close and harsh.
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Re: Ernest Bloch (1880-1959)
« Reply #152 on: February 17, 2020, 02:42:14 PM »
I do have that one, Jeffrey. A WRC LP issue, also on WRC and untypical of the label along with Schoenberg and Berg, Bloch’s Four Episodes for Chamber Orchestra. I have no memory of the piece, do you know it? Checking out my shelves I have two recordings of violin sonatas. I listened to the Stern CBS issue recently and found the recording uncomfortably close and harsh.
I have it on this release Lol. I recall enjoying it but can't remember too much about it now.
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Re: Ernest Bloch (1880-1959)
« Reply #153 on: February 18, 2020, 12:20:57 AM »
I have it on this release Lol. I recall enjoying it but can't remember too much about it now.


One, or both of us had better play it then.  ;)
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Re: Ernest Bloch (1880-1959)
« Reply #154 on: February 18, 2020, 01:00:08 AM »
One, or both of us had better play it then.  ;)
I need to find it first  ::)
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Re: Ernest Bloch (1880-1959)
« Reply #155 on: February 20, 2020, 03:49:14 AM »
From WAYLTN thread.
A marvellous recording and deeply felt performance of the VC:
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Re: Ernest Bloch (1880-1959)
« Reply #156 on: February 20, 2020, 07:15:29 AM »
From WAYLTN thread.
A marvellous recording and deeply felt performance of the VC:


Sorry Jeffrey you are costing me a fortune. It has to stop! ;D
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Re: Ernest Bloch (1880-1959)
« Reply #157 on: February 20, 2020, 07:52:44 AM »
Sorry Jeffrey you are costing me a fortune. It has to stop! ;D
Well, as you've just sold one LP for £7,000 or whatever it was I reckon that you can afford it Lol  8)
Seriously, I don't think that you'll regret it.

PS you need to have 'Trois Poemes Juifs' as well  ;D
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Re: Ernest Bloch (1880-1959)
« Reply #158 on: February 21, 2020, 01:34:44 AM »
Well, as you've just sold one LP for £7,000 or whatever it was I reckon that you can afford it Lol  8)
Seriously, I don't think that you'll regret it.

PS you need to have 'Trois Poemes Juifs' as well  ;D

Oh, already spent that on a cartridge.

I have taken note.

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Re: Ernest Bloch (1880-1959)
« Reply #159 on: February 21, 2020, 03:20:42 AM »
Oh, already spent that on a cartridge.

I have taken note.

You obviously have a different system to mine  8)
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

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