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« Reply #740 on: August 18, 2020, 05:55:21 PM »
The symphony is an 18thC construct for 18thC manners and ideals - of course it's dead.  As of nearly 200 years ago.

Well, I see a continuity from the 1760s onwards myself. But even if you have an aesthetic philosophy that sees cultural productions as falling into particular periods with no long-term continuity, you still need a name for those musical compositions that some of us think are still being produced now and which are published with the word "symphony" on the cover. What would you call them "post-post-Romantic symphonies"?

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« Reply #741 on: August 19, 2020, 01:07:17 AM »
The symphony is an 18thC construct for 18thC manners and ideals - of course it's dead.  As of nearly 200 years ago.

I'll make sure I pass on your comment to every composer of the last 200 hundred years who has so mis-guidedly called any work a "symphony".  Who knew they were so wrong.

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« Reply #742 on: August 19, 2020, 04:26:43 AM »
The symphony is an 18thC construct for 18thC manners and ideals - of course it's dead.  As of nearly 200 years ago.

lol  :laugh:

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« Reply #743 on: August 19, 2020, 08:45:29 AM »
 ;D  Most of their practitioners even dress as though at a funeral, and their audiences bahave as though they are at one.  We on this forum are strolling through a mausoleum.  Need I go on?
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« Reply #744 on: August 19, 2020, 11:48:28 AM »
;D  Most of their practitioners even dress as though at a funeral, and their audiences bahave as though they are at one.  We on this forum are strolling through a mausoleum.  Need I go on?
Pardon, but shouldn't (looking at your avatar) that be "Baahave"?   ;)

For me, it's not a mausoleum if the music is still being appreciated and also recorded.   ;D

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« Reply #745 on: August 20, 2020, 01:50:01 AM »
;D  Most of their practitioners even dress as though at a funeral, and their audiences bahave as though they are at one.  We on this forum are strolling through a mausoleum.  Need I go on?

Stir the pot vigorously and leave to simmer..........................

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Re: The British Composers Thread
« Reply #746 on: August 20, 2020, 02:14:56 AM »


For me, it's not a mausoleum if the music is still being appreciated and also recorded.   ;D



Of course, ghosts are live beings.  :D
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« Reply #747 on: August 21, 2020, 12:14:31 AM »
Well, just spent 11 p.m. to 5 a.m. on a Finzi binge .... time to go up, then!   :blank:
The Germans, who make doctrines out of everything, deal with music learnedly; the Italians, being voluptuous, seek in it lively, though fleeting, sensations; the French, more vain than perceptive, manage to speak of it wittily; and the English pay for it . . . - Stendhal

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« Reply #748 on: August 21, 2020, 02:41:32 AM »
Well, just spent 11 p.m. to 5 a.m. on a Finzi binge .... time to go up, then!   :blank:
Ouch!  ???  Do you often stay up all night to listen to music?

In any event, looking forward to your comments regarding his music; once you've had a chance to get some sleep! 

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« Reply #749 on: August 21, 2020, 05:19:25 AM »
Well, just spent 11 p.m. to 5 a.m. on a Finzi binge .... time to go up, then!   :blank:

If I had the stamina, and I haven't, Finzi would be my choice.
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« Reply #750 on: August 21, 2020, 07:30:22 AM »
Well, just spent 11 p.m. to 5 a.m. on a Finzi binge .... time to go up, then!   :blank:

We’ve all been there, my friend! ;) I assume you were able to make it through his entire output (and then some) in that time!
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« Reply #751 on: August 21, 2020, 07:30:27 AM »
If I had the stamina, and I haven't, Finzi would be my choice.
Those days are long gone for me!   ;)

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« Reply #752 on: August 21, 2020, 07:32:09 AM »
We’ve all been there, my friend! ;) I assume you were able to make it through his entire output (and then some) in that time!
I was also trying to think if Finzi produced enough music (at least that's been recorded) to last 6 hours?  Maybe some snack, etc., breaks thrown in?  ;)

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« Reply #753 on: August 21, 2020, 11:46:52 AM »
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

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« Reply #754 on: August 21, 2020, 01:47:26 PM »
Finzi?  Well, coming from Manchester before the move across the pond, I'd heard him numerous times since childhood. It was just his turn in ye ole rotation.  A very lush, neo-Romantic tunesmith. Bad way to go - shame, that.  Also read up on his wife's career on the internet while perusing.
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« Reply #755 on: August 26, 2020, 12:30:15 PM »
Music of the Four Countries.

Unlike other genres there are not too many concept albums in classical recordings. A simple idea but a good one to record four works with each representing a country of the United Kingdom. Enjoyable and tuneful music to relax with, I enjoyed the MacCunn Scottish and Harty Irish works most.

I must mention York Records, a most reliable place to shop. I ordered this LP yesterday morning and received in the post today!
You must have a very good opinion of yourself to write a symphony - John Ireland.

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« Reply #756 on: August 26, 2020, 12:38:54 PM »
Music of the Four Countries.

Unlike other genres there are not too many concept albums in classical recordings. A simple idea but a good one to record four works with each representing a country of the United Kingdom. Enjoyable and tuneful music to relax with, I enjoyed the MacCunn Scottish and Harty Irish works most.

I must mention York Records, a most reliable place to shop. I ordered this LP yesterday morning and received in the post today!

That's a famous old disc. The Hamilton Harty is my favourite work on the disc. York Records sounds v good!
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

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« Reply #757 on: August 26, 2020, 12:48:13 PM »
Music of the Four Countries.

Unlike other genres there are not too many concept albums in classical recordings. A simple idea but a good one to record four works with each representing a country of the United Kingdom. Enjoyable and tuneful music to relax with, I enjoyed the MacCunn Scottish and Harty Irish works most.

I must mention York Records, a most reliable place to shop. I ordered this LP yesterday morning and received in the post today!

Well, that has just given me a feeling of déjà-vu... I read a mention about this exact LP and that combination of composers only yesterday I think in the Havergal Brian on Music Vol.1 I am reading at the moment.


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« Reply #758 on: August 26, 2020, 11:12:34 PM »
That's a famous old disc. The Hamilton Harty is my favourite work on the disc. York Records sounds v good!

I agree Jeffrey. Interesting that "Wild Geese" are not geese but Irish soldiers dreaming of Clare on the battle fields of Fontenoy in 1745.

Originally released in 1968, this is a 1984 re-master.

Jon at York Records bends over backwards to keep his customer happy. By far the best online source of ye old LP. I will PM you contact details as it may come in handy at some time.
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« Reply #759 on: August 26, 2020, 11:15:57 PM »
Well, that has just given me a feeling of déjà-vu... I read a mention about this exact LP and that combination of composers only yesterday I think in the Havergal Brian on Music Vol.1 I am reading at the moment.



Were the comments positive, Olivier?
You must have a very good opinion of yourself to write a symphony - John Ireland.