The New Classical

[12tone.]

The new classical!

[Mark]

Rather dispels the myth that all DJs do is 'play records'.

Nice find.

[gmstudio]

I've always felt that "electronica" is the new classical...and I don't mean that 60's weirdness that thrived in the world of academia...I mean groups like:

Autechre
BT  (This Binary Universe is STUNNING)
Air
Boards of Canada
DJ Shadow
Sigur Ros

etc...

[Josquin des Prez]

Terrible.

[greg]

i saw this video on TV a few months ago and then watched the video. I really like it, honestly, they both know what they're doing. And no, it's not new classical, but it's........... hm.......... i don't know. It'd be nice to hear on the radio.... the only thing on the radio worth listening to, maybe

[some guy]

This is a little more like, I trow.

Or this.

[jochanaan]

...And no, it's not new classical, but it's........... hm.......... i don't know...

Why do we need to define it?  If anything, it's a much-needed bridge between two subcultures.

[Josquin des Prez]

Why do we need to define it?  If anything, it's a much-needed bridge between two subcultures.

There's no culture that i can see there. Legitimizing this puerile crap is one of the reasons nobody cares about 'classical' anymore.  Who needs Beethoven when MTV is so much cooler? And you can't say that one is better then the other, because it's all relative!

[MN Dave]

Do they even talk about any type of music on MTV anymore? Whenever I whizz past it, it's showing reality programs.

[EmpNapoleon]

Stop the MTV bashing!  Barbarous guys screaming "Woo!" and slutty girls talking about what they're going to do at night is quite therapeutic.  I guarantee that you'll relax with just 1 episode of "Next."  I'm not going to pretend that I don't love my peers, as degenerate as they are.  They might lack that taste for the great music we all love here, but their teeth are straight and white and their bodies are healthy (the ones that they show on MTV).  They're all energetic and happy.  Leave them be. 

[greg]

now the subject is MTV  ........

[Demonic Clarinet]

There's no culture that i can see there. Legitimizing this puerile crap is one of the reasons nobody cares about 'classical' anymore.  Who needs Beethoven when MTV is so much cooler?

Many things wrong with this post.

1) MTV has nothing to do with music. It just shows crappy "reality" shows

2) There's nothing childish about it. It's music. People listen to it because they enjoy it. You and I listen to classical because...wait for it...we enjoy it.

3) From dictionary.com, culture is:

the behaviors and beliefs characteristic of a particular social, ethnic, or age group:

There's culture there. It may be a different culture, but it still is.

[greg]

There's culture there. It may be a different culture, but it still is.

yeah, what a great culture...... glorify partying, getting drunk and doing anything you can see, what greatness!

[MN Dave]

yeah, what a great culture...... glorify partying, getting drunk and doing anything you can see, what greatness!

If you're talking hip-hop, I believe the underground stuff goes a little deeper than that.

[greg]

If you're talking hip-hop, I believe the underground stuff goes a little deeper than that.

no, i'm afraid i'm talking about mainstream culture here......
ahem....... normal people, that is 

[MN Dave]

no, i'm afraid i'm talking about mainstream culture here......
ahem....... normal people, that is 

We are here to fart around.

[EmpNapoleon]

no, i'm afraid i'm talking about mainstream culture here......
ahem....... normal people, that is 

What about MTV's glorification of the body?  I don't think those girls would look as hot as they do if they liked Bruckner and Holderlin.

yeah, what a great culture...... glorify partying, getting drunk and doing anything you can see, what greatness!

Partying, getting drunk, and "doing anything you can see" (whatever that means) have been around for ages.  You're one of the few who likes good art.  Good for you.  Don't mock those who don't.  The culture will change without bitter "cultural revolutionaries."

[greg]

What about MTV's glorification of the body?  I don't think those girls would look as hot as they do if they liked Bruckner and Holderlin.

i think they would (not knowing which girls you're talking about since i don't watch/currently don't have MTV)

Partying, getting drunk, and "doing anything you can see" (whatever that means) have been around for ages. 

unfortunately

You're one of the few who likes good art.  Good for you.  Don't mock those who don't.  The culture will change without bitter "cultural revolutionaries."

it's not like you can change it, this is what normal people do, people you're friends with, you know?

[EmpNapoleon]

Average people are average.  I have to surpass myself when I listen to the music discussed at GMG.  It takes no effort to listen to mainstream music.  That's why people get sick of the songs they love after 1 week. 

[greg]

Average people are average.  I have to surpass myself when I listen to the music discussed at GMG.  It takes no effort to listen to mainstream music.  That's why people get sick of the songs they love after 1 week. 

that's why it's called bubblegum culture, right? It's like chewing bubble gum, gets old after a short time and you look for another piece that's almost exactly the same, gets old and you throw it away.