Topic: Haydn's Haus

[Gurn Blanston]

The third piece from King Alfred does need to be recorded.  Just record enough of the succeeding dialogue to give the listener an idea of why the music breaks off.

I mean,  singers do bleeding chunks that break off suddenly all the time...it's no stretch for a bleeding chunk which the composer himself breaks off.

There is a Mass which can be called predecessor to LvB 9:. his own Missa Solemnis.

I would like to hear it, although I'm not sure it has even been published yet, Landon did the others but said he didn't bother with this. Maybe one day. Do you have the Hickox disk?  It is also in the Complete Masses, but this cover was too perfect.

Yes, being as they are back-to-back works, the influence of one on the other is practically inevitable. I always thought of the Choral Fantasy as a real preview of the 4th movement of the 9th....

[kishnevi]

Don't have the Chandos recordings: the Naxos set and the Decca set that involves Gardiner are what I have.

Maybe we can start a GoFundMe campaign to record that duet.

[Gurn Blanston]

Don't have the Chandos recordings: the Naxos set and the Decca set that involves Gardiner are what I have.

Maybe we can start a GoFundMe campaign to record that duet.

Boy, if that was do-able; I have a nice list of never-been-recorded Haydn, they would be perfect to get done before the next set of London Symphonies hits the shelves.

[mc ukrneal]

I was just thinking how interesting it would be do to some sort of comparison of Haydn with his brother Michael. It might be interesting to compare what they were doing, how much they might have followed each other (or not), influences that were the same or different, etc. Not saying we expect you to do it or anything, just one of those, "Hey, that would be interesting moments." 

[Gurn Blanston]

I was just thinking how interesting it would be do to some sort of comparison of Haydn with his brother Michael. It might be interesting to compare what they were doing, how much they might have followed each other (or not), influences that were the same or different, etc. Not saying we expect you to do it or anything, just one of those, "Hey, that would be interesting moments."

I agree, it certainly would be nice to know a lot more than we do.

I've actually done quite a bit of the research, in a 'by-the-way' sort of manner so far. There are no extant letters between them, sadly, but they did have moments where they met or at least intended to, and it seems they must have been in fairly regular contact even though we don't know what was said.  I can tell you that when we get past the turn of the century, Michael will enter the discussion at least two or three times, far more than he has to date. Apparently, travel between Vienna and Salzburg in those days was not common.

[Florestan]

The Blessed Bernard? Who dat?

Excellent. Thanks a lot!

[Gurn Blanston]

Excellent. Thanks a lot!

Back at'cha! Glad you enjoyed.

[Florestan]

Back at'cha! Glad you enjoyed.

Your work is priceless. I humbly bow to your devotion and passion.

[Gurn Blanston]

Your work is priceless. I humbly bow to your devotion and passion.

Thank you. Sometimes I wish I wasn't the only person doing this, it's a monumental task. Fortunately, I love it, so I carry on happily. It's scary to think that if I was writing a book(s), this would just be an outline!!    

[Florestan]

Thank you. Sometimes I wish I wasn't the only person doing this, it's a monumental task. Fortunately, I love it, so I carry on happily. It's scary to think that if I was writing a book(s), this would just be an outline!!    

Well, you should seriously consider assembling all the chapters in chronological order into a full pdf book(let). That would be an awesome and handy resource.

[Gurn Blanston]

Well, you should seriously consider assembling all the chapters in chronological order into a full pdf book(let). That would be an awesome and handy resource.

I'll have to give that some consideration. It will take some serious editing to turn it into something readable in that format, but what the heck, it could happen.

[k a rl h e nn i ng]

There’s no place like da Haus for the holidays!

[Gurn Blanston]

There’s no place like da Haus for the holidays!

I played a couple of Haydn Christmas pastorella's last night. Made me want to toss a log on the fire...

[Florestan]

I played a couple of Haydn Christmas pastorella's last night.

Any recommendation for recordings?

[Gurn Blanston]

Any recommendation for recordings?

This one is the only one I know. It also has some Christmas Night songs from Michael as well as Gruber's original version of Stille Nacht. PI, of course...

[Sergeant Rock]

This one is the only one I know. It also has some Christmas Night songs from Michael as well as Gruber's original version of Stille Nacht. PI, of course...

Ordered that just now. Hopefully it will arrive within the next few days and I can play it at my parents-in-law's home on Christmas Eve. They love music of the classical period. Brahms, for example, is too modern for them 

Sarge

[Gurn Blanston]

Ordered that just now. Hopefully it will arrive within the next few days and I can play it at my parents-in-law's home on Christmas Eve. They love music of the classical period. Brahms, for example, is too modern for them 

Sarge

Cool, my kind of folks.   The Austrian things are very traditional and very nice, both the Haydn brothers did well, IMO. I know nothing about Gruber except for Silent Night....

[Sergeant Rock]

Boy, sure been quiet in da Haus! 

That's because you've been quiet! But your new article rectifies that. Superb read. I like how you fearlessly speculate on the circumstances of the mass creations despite the lack of concrete evidence. Taking on the "experts": brave and thought provoking.

Listening to the Heiligmesse now (Weil, Tafelmusick).

Sarge

[Madiel]

Revisiting the Naxos set of masses and focusing just on the last 6 masses is high on my to do list. Not that the earlier ones aren't worthwhile, but I do feel I should become more familiar with the late ones.  It's over a year since my first set of listens.

[Gurn Blanston]

That's because you've been quiet! But your new article rectifies that. Superb read. I like how you fearlessly speculate on the circumstances of the mass creations despite the lack of concrete evidence. Taking on the "experts": brave and thought provoking.

Listening to the Heiligmesse now (Weil, Tafelmusick).

Sarge

Thanks for saying that, Sarge, I appreciate it. I guess you can tell that sometimes I get tired of reading speculation disguised as fact. I'm like "hell, I can do that...". 

That's a really nice version, too. I'll check back into it as soon as Symphony #39 is over.