Haydn's Haus

[Gurn Blanston]

Ah, I have that Waldmann translation. Got it in college.
My favorite version of Orlando is the Ariosto based story in The Complete Enchanter by Pratt and DeCamp.

Cool. I haven't read that Pratt & DeCamp. Readily available?

[Ken B]

Ah, I have that Waldmann translation. Got it in college.
My favorite version of Orlando is the Ariosto based story in The Complete Enchanter by Pratt and DeCamp.

Intriguing. I just ordered a copy of CE. Orlando is one of the epic poems I have not read, and suspect I never will. But I liked deCamp when I was a SF reader.

[kishnevi]

Cool. I haven't read that Pratt & DeCamp. Readily available?

This seems to be the most complete compendium: 
http://www.amazon.com/The-Mathematics-Magic-Sprague-Camp/dp/1886778655/ref=pd_sim_b_3?ie=UTF8&refRID=11AV8QZJRQSVMM3PCYSS

Intriguing. I just ordered a copy of CE. Orlando is one of the epic poems I have not read, and suspect I never will. But I liked deCamp when I was a SF reader.

Ariosto is exactly what Gurn says of him.  And from what I have seen of you here, exactly up your alley.

[Ken B]

This seems to be the most complete compendium: 
http://www.amazon.com/The-Mathematics-Magic-Sprague-Camp/dp/1886778655/ref=pd_sim_b_3?ie=UTF8&refRID=11AV8QZJRQSVMM3PCYSS

Ariosto is exactly what Gurn says of him.  And from what I have seen of you here, exactly up your alley.

I am tempted now I admit. OF has been on my to read list for over 30 years ... but it never quite made the cut. 

[Old Listener]

Lots of very interesting Haydn on YouTube.  For example, this performance

Haydn Piano Concerto No 11 D major Badura Skoda, Bruggen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulmMucPqW9w

Two musicians whose performances are always worth a listen.

[Gurn Blanston]

Lots of very interesting Haydn on YouTube.  For example, this performance

Haydn Piano Concerto No 11 D major Badura-Skoda, Brüggen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulmMucPqW9w

Two musicians whose performances are always worth a listen.

Yes, a very nice performance. I wonder who the band is? And if this is B-S's famous Bösendorfer Imperial? If one must listen to a modern piano, that would be the one to listen to!

Thanks for posting the link, OL.

[Gurn Blanston]

OK, just had to wait til the end:

Orchestre Svizzera-Italiana from Lugano. Heard of them, never heard them (before). Very nice.

[Wakefield]

Yes, a very nice performance. I wonder who the band is? And if this is B-S's famous Bösendorfer Imperial? If one must listen to a modern piano, that would be the one to listen to!

Thanks for posting the link, OL.

Lovely performance, indeed.

Thanks, Old Listener!

Unfortunately, I read the message written by that lourak613. What a jerk! Totally deprived of any musical sense.

[Florestan]

Hard to believe I used to be sort of intimidated by opera. Now I find it to be a treat! Haydn's operas are so underrated it is hard to believe. I take a look at that particular issue and why it might be in this essay, and fill in some background on the superb Orlando Paladino while I'm at it. Hope you enjoy it!

Have at you!

Thanks,

If I were hard-pressed to pick the best essay in the series, this would be my choice. Bravo!

[Florestan]

This isn´t bad at all, all things considered.

https://www.youtube.com/v/qnnLHzSKvEk

Wait for the encore. 

[Gurn Blanston]

Lovely performance, indeed.

Thanks, Old Listener!

Unfortunately, I read the message written by that lourak613. What a jerk! Totally deprived of any musical sense.

Yes, I ignored it to avoid spitting on my monitor. What a git! 

[Gurn Blanston]

If I were hard-pressed to pick the best essay in the series, this would be my choice. Bravo!

Thank you very kindly, Andrei. I have to say, I enjoyed that one both writing, and later, reading. Good topic, of course...

[Jo498]

Of the keyboard concerti I have only a few (the famous D major with the "fillers" offered by Pletnev's and Staier's discs). I am considering the twofers with Schornsheim and Koopman. Any comments or preferences for one or the other? Or different suggestions?

[Gurn Blanston]

Of the keyboard concerti I have only a few (the famous D major with the "fillers" offered by Pletnev's and Staier's discs). I am considering the twofers with Schornsheim and Koopman. Any comments or preferences for one or the other? Or different suggestions?

I really like the Schornsheim double. She plays a variety of appropriate instruments with a great band, and as always, she plays them well. Koopman does too, of course, but he plays it as a harpsichord concerto, which may or may not be appropriate, hard to say. I just prefer the Schornsheim. Actually, of course, you should have both in order to get Koopman's excellent concertinos.... 

[Mandryka]

Of the keyboard concerti I have only a few (the famous D major with the "fillers" offered by Pletnev's and Staier's discs). I am considering the twofers with Schornsheim and Koopman. Any comments or preferences for one or the other? Or different suggestions?

Beneditti Michelangeli. Sv. Richter. But honestly, Pletnev is really outstanding with these.

[Jo498]

Thanks for all these comments re 98 and the harpsichord. I understand that the solo is a joke, I just think it would be funner if the harpsichord was dutifully tinkling at points in the work and then let rip in the solo, almost like a last blast for the orchestral continuo.

Actually, I think that is the case in most (newer) recordings I have heard. I would have to check in detail, but I think the harpsichord is completely missing (no solo at all) in some historical ones (e.g. Fricsay, probably Scherchen, both from the early 50s), is suddenly conjured up out of thin air for the solo in others (Szell, a few years later), but dutifully tinkles along already in Jochum's Dresden recording (late 60s?) and certainly in newer ones like Brüggen's or Harnoncourts. For whatever reason I do not have as many recordings of #98 as of some other London symphonies, though, so this is of course only anecdotal.

[Jo498]

Thanks for the replies! I am not really interested enough in more recordings of the famous D major by famous pianists, as I am quite happy with Pletnev, Argerich, Staier and probably another two or so I forgot about.
I certainly appreciate the information that Koopman's and Schornsheim's sets are only overlapping in some works. For some reason I had not even been aware of this and naively assumed that they would be mostly the same pieces. So if there is not an obvious alternative for the "concertini"/divertimenti, I'll probably get both eventually...

[Karl Henning]

I really like the Schornsheim double. She plays a variety of appropriate instruments with a great band, and as always, she plays them well.

+1

[Gurn Blanston]

1783 was a quiet year overall, but no year for Haydn was entirely without an event or two. This year, Joseph Kraus stopped by for a visit, and that's not all. See what I discovered;

Kraus & The Princess

Thanks,

[kishnevi]

Hmm. Wikipedia has a little article which heavily implies that Mozart and Haydn probably first met in December 1783.  Which would mean that Kraus met Haydn before Mozart did, and so would have been "the first genius" Haydn met.

Or, to reverse it, Haydn's comment is circumstantial evidence that he did not meet Mozart before late 1783.

The Wikipedia link is..
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haydn_and_Mozart