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[mn dave]

Again, this is the sort of thing you really ought to know. Of course Larry is not Sfz, he would be furious that you might think so.  0:)

Mike

Yeah, the intelligence is there but it seems they have two different styles.

[ezodisy]

Really? Worse than ____?

One thing to keep in mind, of course, is that those who confirm this are, in the main, also those who had confrontations with him. Many posters didn't and many got on very well with him, myself among them. Also note that 2 are moderators, and as with all good writers, he couldn't care less about authority.

I'd also like to point out that Herman came to GMG the same time I did, i.e. in the very first wave that migrated from CMG. Excluding a few choice and entirely bitter altercations with another long forgotten yet equally long cherished poster, Molman, Herman hardly ever got into a spat in those early days when the board was full of quality posts and interesting writers. The vitriol came as the board increasingly filled with members of the one-legged gang, and you know how it went from there...(I don't remember if he was banned, but ultimately he decided to leave). Yes there were some negative and regrettable times, like the one David mentioned among others I'm sure. Still, the board is far less informed without him and without a bunch of others, like Molman, Larry, the Nigels and so many more (who was that chap who lived in an attic in Utah and collected contemporary music like it was going out of style? He was all brain...).

[uffeviking]

(who was that chap who lived in an attic in Utah and collected contemporary music like it was going out of style? He was all brain...).

You wouldn't be thinking of Utah Bill? No, he did not live in an attic, it's the loft of his house where he does his listening, downloading, etc. After a lengthy stay in a foreign country he is back in the States, happy and healthy, but very busy catching up on pulling weeds and tending his garden! 

[Gurn Blanston]

One thing to keep in mind, of course, is that those who confirm this are, in the main, also those who had confrontations with him. Many posters didn't and many got on very well with him, myself among them. Also note that 2 are moderators, and as with all good writers, he couldn't care less about authority.

I'd also like to point out that Herman came to GMG the same time I did, i.e. in the very first wave that migrated from CMG. Excluding a few choice and entirely bitter altercations with another long forgotten yet equally long cherished poster, Molman, Herman hardly ever got into a spat in those early days when the board was full of quality posts and interesting writers. The vitriol came as the board increasingly filled with members of the one-legged gang, and you know how it went from there...(I don't remember if he was banned, but ultimately he decided to leave). Yes there were some negative and regrettable times, like the one David mentioned among others I'm sure. Still, the board is far less informed without him and without a bunch of others, like Molman, Larry, the Nigels and so many more (who was that chap who lived in an attic in Utah and collected contemporary music like it was going out of style? He was all brain...).

Yeah, Sid, those were good times, seemed like we all got along just fine, even though there were disagreements just like now, they never seemed to get out of hand.

IIRC, that poster was Ugh. He really knew his stuff, almost had ME listening to modern music...

BTW - Steve Molman sold all his classical disks and doesn't even listen to ANY now, just jazz (IIRC) from the last I heard. Pity, he really knew his way around a classical collection.



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[knight66]

...., and as with all good writers, he couldn't care less about authority.

I think that is a slur on at least some good writers.

Mike

[Harry]

I miss Larry Rinkel.

Is Sfz really Larry?

Nah. 

Of course he is, that was quite easy to detect in the way he harassed me all the time without abating.
He lost his hairs but not his tricks.
Same method different words.

[mn dave]

Sorry, I didn't know you were arch-enemies.

[Lilas Pastia]

One thing to keep in mind, of course, is that those who confirm this are, in the main, also those who had confrontations with him. Many posters didn't and many got on very well with him, myself among them. Also note that 2 are moderators, and as with all good writers, he couldn't care less about authority.

This is ironic because that big spat with Molman happened when Herman WAS the authority. You may not recall it, but he was a moderator at the time. He thought it was a good idea to delete a Molman post on the grounds that it was not in the right thread. Talk about a gaffe....

[ezodisy]

This is ironic because that big spat with Molman happened when Herman WAS the authority. You may not recall it, but he was a moderator at the time. He thought it was a good idea to delete a Molman post on the grounds that it was not in the right thread. Talk about a gaffe....

LOL! You're right I had completely forgotten. Too funny. That was back in the time when each mod had his own section of the board to patrol -- mine was the beginner's 

Long live the Molman!

it's the loft of his house where he does his listening

considering how much time he spent listening......

Then again, I once lived  in Utah so I can understand why he stays up there....

Yeah, Sid, those were good times, seemed like we all got along just fine, even though there were disagreements just like now, they never seemed to get out of hand.

BTW - Steve Molman sold all his classical disks and doesn't even listen to ANY now, just jazz (IIRC) from the last I heard. Pity, he really knew his way around a classical collection.

Yeah those were enjoyable days, we got along well and were all avid to listen and talk about things. It wasn't so long ago, 4 maybe 5 years. I was just starting out then, hadn't even heard of Sofronitsky back then until Steve mentioned him.  There's no doubt that Steve was the coolest guy ever to post on this board (and I include you, me and Drasko in that!)

I think that is a slur on at least some good writers.

definitely, just joking about it

[Gurn Blanston]

Yeah those were enjoyable days, we got along well and were all avid to listen and talk about things. It wasn't so long ago, 4 maybe 5 years. I was just starting out then, hadn't even heard of Sofronitsky back then until Steve mentioned him.  There's no doubt that Steve was the coolest guy ever to post on this board (and I include you, me and Drasko in that!)

Yup, 5 years. A lot of people come and gone in that time. As for Steve, I got more good recs from him than any other single person. A lot of those disks are still my favorite performances. I think that business he had selling on eBay was a great opportunity to listen to just about every disk ever recorded.

Well, to be fair, we still do have a lot of good posters. Nostalgia is fun and all that, but for every good poster who has gone, another has come along to take his place. They just tend to get lost in the crowd sometimes, since the sheer volume of members over the years has made it more difficult to keep track.

PS - don't know if you noticed a few weeks ago, but I posted something about my very first post here (looking for Badura-Skoda Beethoven disks) and mentioned that you and Todd were the first people who replied (negatively, of course.) Didn't know if you remembered all that. As you say, a long time.



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[M forever]

Trust me, Dave, he isn't world-famous, no Dutch writer is (yet). But his surname is the same as one of my favourite American poets.

Melville?

Of course he is, that was quite easy to detect in the way he harassed me all the time without abating.
He lost his hairs but not his tricks.
Same method different words.

Sorry, I didn't know you were arch-enemies.

They weren't. Harry simply isn't interesting enough to have any "enemies". He just sees himself under attack immediately when anyone questions what he says. Which happens rarely enough because he rarely ever contributes any content, but when he does and people have a different opinion, then he immediately switches into his passive-aggressive mode and becomes the incredibly hurt victim.

[(poco) Sforzando]

Yeah, the intelligence is there but it seems they have two different styles.

Indeed. I am much more of a sweetie.  

[(poco) Sforzando]

Of course he is, that was quite easy to detect in the way he harassed me all the time without abating.
He lost his hairs but not his tricks.
Same method different words.

[(poco) Sforzando]

Melville?

With all due respect, it would be hard for me to imagine Melville as one of anyone's favorite American poets. (Ever tried reading "Clarel"? I got through three pages of that immense poetic narrative.) Melville the author of Moby Dick is quite another story. But having seen Herman post from time to time on a dance forum, I suspect the poet JZ had in mind is more the emperor of ice-cream, and the one who listened to a blackbird thirteen ways while pursuing a day job that would have made Charles Ives proud.

[M forever]

Stevens?

[(poco) Sforzando]

Stevens?

0:)

[BachQ]

Harry simply isn't interesting enough to have any "enemies". He just sees himself under attack immediately when anyone questions what he says. Which happens rarely enough because he rarely ever contributes any content, but when he does and people have a different opinion, then he immediately switches into his passive-aggressive mode and becomes the incredibly hurt victim.

[saved and preserved]

[M forever]

I am surprised that hasn't been deleted yet!


Google says there is a Dutch author named Herman Stevens and his website also has articles about ballet. The online herman used to write a lot about ballet. Could they be the same person?

Probably not. The online herman claimed to be a writer, and he was very outspoken in a way, but the point of being a writer is publishing, releasing one's thoughts into the public space. And the guy on that website does that, under his own name. Why would the same guy appear in forums, "publish" his views, but not "reveal" his identity?

[Gurn Blanston]

Google says there is a Dutch author named Herman Stevens and his website also has articles about ballet. The online herman used to write a lot about ballet. Could they be the same person?

Probably not. The online herman claimed to be a writer, and he was very outspoken in a way, but the point of being a writer is publishing, releasing one's thoughts into the public space. And the guy on that website does that, under his own name. Why would the same guy appear in forums, "publish" his views, but not "reveal" his identity?

I didn't realize his identity was a mystery. All you had to do was ask him. Ballet. Yes, Herman was very keen on ballet. Moreso than anyone else I've run across on a forum.



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[mn dave]

I didn't realize his identity was a mystery. All you had to do was ask him.

No, I asked him. He wouldn't tell me.