"Serious" Music

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Philoctetes

#20
July 22, 2008, 06:46:00 AM
Quote from: Apollo on July 22, 2008, 06:43:09 AM
Within a single genre, I imagine some of it will always be better than the rest of it.

That applies to Classical and Jazz as well, to any genre really.

karlhenning

#21
July 22, 2008, 06:46:30 AM
Quote from: Philoctetes on July 22, 2008, 06:42:43 AM
I'd take The Rolling Stones over much Classical music.

Those one-trick ponies, who keep re-recording the same five songs over and over again?

You're welcome to them  ;)

mn dave

#22
July 22, 2008, 06:47:52 AM
Quote from: Philoctetes on July 22, 2008, 06:46:00 AM
That applies to Classical and Jazz as well, to any genre really.

But it's not what we're talking about.

ChamberNut

#23
July 22, 2008, 06:48:46 AM
Quote from: Apollo on July 22, 2008, 06:42:03 AM
I'm no snob either. I am always thinking about abandoning this forum because of the snobbery around, but that's a different topic.

Hasn't stopped you before Dave, I mean MN Dave, I mean MN Dave Forever, I mean Apollo.

:D

Philoctetes

#24
July 22, 2008, 06:49:05 AM
Quote from: Apollo on July 22, 2008, 06:47:52 AM
But it's not what we're talking about.

It was merely an aside, but I already stated my position previously.

toledobass

#25
July 22, 2008, 06:50:53 AM
Quote from: karlhenning on July 22, 2008, 06:46:30 AM
Those one-trick ponies, who keep re-recording the same five songs over and over again?

You're welcome to them  ;)

I thought you were talking about orchestras for a second.

karlhenning

#26
July 22, 2008, 06:51:18 AM
Quote from: toledobass on July 22, 2008, 06:50:53 AM
I thought you were talking about orchestras for a second.

;D 8)

71 dB

#27
July 22, 2008, 07:56:19 AM
Autechre is very serious music.

Quote from: karlhenning on July 22, 2008, 06:45:17 AM
For instance:

King Crimson, Larks' Tongues in Aspic

I hope to get that album soon!  ;)

Spatial distortion is a serious problem deteriorating headphone listening.
Crossfeeders reduce spatial distortion and make the sound more natural
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mn dave

#28
July 22, 2008, 07:59:35 AM
Quote from: 71 dB on July 22, 2008, 07:56:19 AM
Autechre is very serious music.

I've been thinking of getting into "serious" electronic music, but don't know where to begin.

I pretty much have all the classical I need (for the moment, anyway).  :o  ;D

Ten thumbs

#29
July 22, 2008, 08:55:48 AM
Do we mean by serious music that which is not meant to be enjoyed? Is 'Pirates of Penzance' not serious music because it was written to amuse audiences?
A day may be a destiny; for life
Lives in but little—but that little teems
With some one chance, the balance of all time:
A look—a word—and we are wholly changed.

Josquin des Prez

#30
July 22, 2008, 08:59:37 AM Last Edit: July 22, 2008, 09:02:19 AM by Josquin des Prez
Quote from: Apollo on July 22, 2008, 05:31:09 AM
Classical music is sometimes called "serious" music because of its potential complexity.

Some jazz is considered serious as well.

What other genres or styles of music do you serious music listeners take seriously?

There is no other genre or style, at least not in the west.

Josquin des Prez

#31
July 22, 2008, 09:01:49 AM
Quote from: 71 dB on July 22, 2008, 07:56:19 AM
I hope to get that album soon!  ;)

Don't bother. The title track is good (second part in particular), but the rest of the album is crap. Get Discipline instead, much more consistent throughout.

71 dB

#32
July 22, 2008, 09:02:37 AM
Quote from: Apollo on July 22, 2008, 07:59:35 AM
I've been thinking of getting into "serious" electronic music, but don't know where to begin.

Start here or here.



Spatial distortion is a serious problem deteriorating headphone listening.
Crossfeeders reduce spatial distortion and make the sound more natural
and less tiresome in headphone listening.

My Sound Cloud page <-- NEW July 2025 "Liminal Feelings"

mn dave

#33
July 22, 2008, 09:06:22 AM
Quote from: 71 dB on July 22, 2008, 09:02:37 AM
Start here or here.

I think I will do just that. Thank you, sir.

karlhenning

#34
July 22, 2008, 09:08:52 AM
Quote from: Ten thumbs on July 22, 2008, 08:55:48 AM
Do we mean by serious music that which is not meant to be enjoyed?

I don't think anyone writes music with the intention that it not be enjoyed.

Don

#35
July 22, 2008, 09:10:22 AM
Quote from: Ten thumbs on July 22, 2008, 08:55:48 AM
Do we mean by serious music that which is not meant to be enjoyed? Is 'Pirates of Penzance' not serious music because it was written to amuse audiences?

Why do you equate enjoyment with amusement?  Serious music can certainly be enjoyed.

71 dB

#36
July 22, 2008, 09:14:55 AM
Quote from: Apollo on July 22, 2008, 09:06:22 AM
I think I will do just that. Thank you, sir.

No problem!  0:)

Quote from: Josquin des Prez on July 22, 2008, 09:01:49 AM
Don't bother. The title track is good (second part in particular), but the rest of the album is crap. Get Discipline instead, much more consistent throughout.

I don't believe King Crimson ever released crap. Discipline is in my short list, of course!  ;)
Spatial distortion is a serious problem deteriorating headphone listening.
Crossfeeders reduce spatial distortion and make the sound more natural
and less tiresome in headphone listening.

My Sound Cloud page <-- NEW July 2025 "Liminal Feelings"

karlhenning

#37
July 22, 2008, 09:34:32 AM
Quote from: 71 dB on July 22, 2008, 09:14:55 AM
Quote from: Josquin des PrezDon't bother. The title track is good (second part in particular), but the rest of the album is crap. Get Discipline instead, much more consistent throughout.

I don't believe King Crimson ever released crap. Discipline is in my short list, of course!  ;)

"Josquin" is also overlooking "The Talking Drum," which is outstanding.  So there is 28 minutes of solid instrumental music-making on a 46-minute album.  The three songs proper all certainly have much that is lovely and well-made to commend them;  I've always found them pleasant . . . the worst that might be said of them is, they aren't quite such strong song-writing per se as when Belew later joined the band.  Wetton is neither the bassist that Tony Levin is, nor quite the singer that Belew is . . . but he fits in well with the chemistry of the band at the time.

Listening now to the album, and fact is, I like "Book of Saturday" and "Exiles" very well.

mn dave

#38
July 22, 2008, 09:37:55 AM
If anyone here is into traditional Eastern music and wants to lay some readily available, excellent recordings on me, that would be cool.  8)

karlhenning

#39
July 22, 2008, 09:39:49 AM
Quote from: Apollo on July 22, 2008, 09:37:55 AM
If anyone here is into traditional Eastern music

You mean, like, Maine?

You can't get there from here . . . .
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