Prokofiev's Paddy Wagon

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Octave

Thanks for this reply.  Name Of The Rozh's symphonies I have (if you mean the ones issued on a 3cd by Melodiya), and they are a shot in the arm.
In other news, I just listened to the Pavel Haas 4tt's Prokofiev disc, and it's a crackerjack!  Of course, I've no point of comparison for the performance, but the music is bracing.
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Quote from: Octave on December 08, 2013, 07:26:14 PM
Thanks for this reply.  Name Of The Rozh's symphonies I have (if you mean the ones issued on a 3cd by Melodiya), and they are a shot in the arm.
In other news, I just listened to the Pavel Haas 4tt's Prokofiev disc, and it's a crackerjack!  Of course, I've no point of comparison for the performance, but the music is bracing.

Yes, the 3-CD set on Melodiya is the Rozhdestvensky I'm referring to and I agree these performances are like bolts of lightning.

Karl Henning

Quote from: Octave on December 08, 2013, 07:26:14 PM
In other news, I just listened to the Pavel Haas 4tt's Prokofiev disc, and it's a crackerjack!  Of course, I've no point of comparison for the performance, but the music is bracing.

Aye!  Though I also have the Emersons, and I like them very well.
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His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Hattoff

Quote from: Pierre on December 08, 2013, 01:15:32 PM
To the best of my knowledge, the film scores were all composed in Soviet Russia, and therefore would be in some archive over there rather than in the  soon to be ex-Goldsmiths archive in London.
Goldsmiths has copies of the sketches of the extant rare film music of Prokofiev. The films are/were available in Russia so the music could easily be reconstructed.
I have the films, there are a few good tunes and some rattling. Some of the music was used in other works.

Pessoa

The piano concerti are both haunting and thrilling.

Karl Henning

Quote from: Pessoa on December 19, 2013, 01:30:03 PM
The piano concerti are both haunting and thrilling.

Aye, delicious stuff!
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His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Brahmsian

Speaking of Prokofiev, I'll be spinning Romeo and Juliet this evening for DBM.  Such a beautiful, timeless masterpiece!  :)

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lescamil

Just throwing this out there again:

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There is simply no better set of the concertos than this one. This is some of Prokofiev's best music played by some of the most committed performers. Gutierrez's performance of the second alone is reason enough to get this. He makes the hellish cadenza sound easy as cake.
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TheGSMoeller

Quote from: lescamil on December 19, 2013, 09:58:03 PM
Just throwing this out there
There is simply no better set of the concertos than this one. This is some of Prokofiev's best music played by some of the most committed performers. Gutierrez's performance of the second alone is reason enough to get this. He makes the hellish cadenza sound easy as cake.

That is a very good set indeed, lescamil.

Reminded me I was listening to the Cantata for the 20th Annv. the other day, such a powerful, thrilling and unique piece. Any fan of Nevsky or Ivan the Terrible would be more than pleased with this piece, it's even possible that Cantata for 20th Annv. could be a better composition than those others.

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Brahmsian

Visiting the Paddy Wagon for Christmas Eve.  Now listening to this  thrilling ballet!

Prokofiev

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Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

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Dax

Quote from: TheGSMoeller on December 20, 2013, 04:58:37 AM
Reminded me I was listening to the Cantata for the 20th Annv. the other day, such a powerful, thrilling and unique piece. Any fan of Nevsky or Ivan the Terrible would be more than pleased with this piece, it's even possible that Cantata for 20th Annv. could be a better composition than those others.

Absolutely. A big favourite of mine.

Another favourite is Yakov Zak's playing of the 2nd Piano Concerto which has reached YouTube in relatively recent times.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsSJa4SZnA8‎

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Quote from: TheGSMoeller on December 20, 2013, 04:58:37 AM
That is a very good set indeed, lescamil.

Reminded me I was listening to the Cantata for the 20th Annv. the other day, such a powerful, thrilling and unique piece. Any fan of Nevsky or Ivan the Terrible would be more than pleased with this piece, it's even possible that Cantata for 20th Annv. could be a better composition than those others.

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Damn, how did I miss this recording. Anyway...just bought it. 8)

Bogey



Here is the Jarvi I have on the shelf.  Excellent effort.
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Karl Henning

Merry Christmas, Bill!  I think I remember the Op.111 being a high point of the Järvi cycle :)
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[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Bogey

Quote from: karlhenning on December 25, 2013, 12:40:23 PM
Merry Christmas, Bill!  I think I remember the Op.111 being a high point of the Järvi cycle :)

You could have been backing John Lennon and Yoko Ono from late 1971 to 1973. ;)
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relm1

I am currently on a Prokofiev complete symphony kick - listening every day to a symphony or two.  I have the Jarvi complete set (pretty good in the bombast and recording quality compartments) and have heard the Rostropovich (a bit sleepy) and Ozawa (emphasizes the lyrical over the modernist Prokofiev) sets.  I'm curious what people think are the performances to get?  Is there a complete set that really is the best?

How is the Weller/London Philharmonic set - I just heard his recording of the Symphony No. 3 and find it excellent.  Is it worth taking the plunge and getting a second set or just piece meal a set from the best recordings?  Opinions please.

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Quote from: relm1 on January 05, 2014, 07:44:36 AM
I am currently on a Prokofiev complete symphony kick - listening every day to a symphony or two.  I have the Jarvi complete set (pretty good in the bombast and recording quality compartments) and have heard the Rostropovich (a bit sleepy) and Ozawa (emphasizes the lyrical over the modernist Prokofiev) sets.  I'm curious what people think are the performances to get?  Is there a complete set that really is the best?

How is the Weller/London Philharmonic set - I just heard his recording of the Symphony No. 3 and find it excellent.  Is it worth taking the plunge and getting a second set or just piece meal a set from the best recordings?  Opinions please.

One word: Rozhdestvensky. 8)

Dancing Divertimentian

Quote from: relm1 on January 05, 2014, 07:44:36 AM
I am currently on a Prokofiev complete symphony kick - listening every day to a symphony or two.  I have the Jarvi complete set (pretty good in the bombast and recording quality compartments) and have heard the Rostropovich (a bit sleepy) and Ozawa (emphasizes the lyrical over the modernist Prokofiev) sets.  I'm curious what people think are the performances to get?  Is there a complete set that really is the best?

How is the Weller/London Philharmonic set - I just heard his recording of the Symphony No. 3 and find it excellent.  Is it worth taking the plunge and getting a second set or just piece meal a set from the best recordings?  Opinions please.

To me the best path to Prokofiev symphony nirvana has been the hodgepodge route. 

A rundown:

1 & 7: Malko.



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2 & 6: Leinsdorf.


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5: Martinon.



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For me the 3rd is much less a listening experiences shorn of its vocals, so I tend to go for the opera (The Fiery Angel) itself for this music. (Muti's Philadelphia recording makes good work of the music alone).

For the 4th, it's a toss up. Again, the music in its original setting - the ballet The Prodigal Son - is best for me.


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