The sour grapes Republican topic

Started by MISHUGINA, November 05, 2008, 01:04:24 AM

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MISHUGINA

I found this message from a videogame message board for starters:

QuoteFrom a user in "War on Terrorism" board on www.gamefaqs.com

You won today. You will have your Democratic Congress and President to gloat over for the next few weeks or so, your "countdown to January 20th" signatures at the ready, you'll have your revenge for 2004 when your Republican coworkers and friends busted your balls everyday over Kerry's concession speech, and you'll have your change. You will be able to somewhat disingenuously say that you were a part of history, that you made a difference, and that your candidate will change this nation for the better. After all it was never about what he stood for, what he did, who he was, or why he was running after 150 unaccomplished days in the Senate; it was about winning and sticking it to an outgoing President who has been blamed for everything from the current economic crisis to the World Trade Center attacks. It wasn't about substance, it was about theatrics, looks, college degrees, styrofoam Greek columns, and calling anyone who disagreed with you an ignorant redneck. I guess this is just retribution for all of the tired insults you took over the past eight years for not supporting Bush, but then again now it's your turn so who cares about what your candidate can do or has done?

You wanted Obama? Great, you got Obama. And with Obama you got a man who has most likely accomplished less than the candidates who are running for mayor in your hometown this election, someone who used his election to the Senate as a launching pad for higher office, rather than as a mandate by his constituents to serve the community who elected him. You have a man whose sole "qualification" to be president rests on the fact that he can speak well, that he went to Harvard, and that he is black; a candidate whose knowledge of economics extends only as far as "social justice" is concerned and a candidate who was prepared to lose the war in Iraq in 2006 when it was a popular idea. But never mind that, McBush lost and you made Republicans mad, it's not about making this country better, if you wanted that you could have voted for Bill Richardson in your party's primary. It was about winning the battle to have someone with a different color of skin pigment become president before the Republicans did, regardless of qualification, ideology, or affiliation and Obama wrote two books and spoke at the DNC convention so therefore you went with him, rather than an accomplished governor with a real legacy of change.

You wanted bipartisanship? Unity among Republicans and Democrats, rich and poor, black and white, young and old? Well then congratulations, you just elected a candidate who is as partisan to the left as John Ashcroft was to the right. Someone who has never worked across the aisle for any bill with political baggage attached to it, against a candidate who is hated by his own party for siding with yours. McCain voted to confirm Ginsburg and Breyer to the Supreme Court, passed the McCain-Feingold bill with vitriolic GOP opposition, worked with Democrats on anti-smoking laws against his own party, ran against Bush in 2000 and was his main Republican critic throughout his term in office, who publicly called for Rumsfeld's resignation in the last election, who sponsored an unsuccessful bill to cap carbon emissions with Democrats, and who sponsored the McCain-Kennedy bill on immigration reform which made him the punching bag of conservative talk radio well into this election. Somehow you managed to turn this otherwise honorable and open minded senator into an old, decrepit, thoughtless stooge of the Republican Party, you valued words over actions and took Obama's claim that McCain is the same as Bush at face value. This isn't to say that McCain is a good candidate, just to remind you guys as to how full of **** you are when you say you are for bipartisanship and change

But again, it wasn't about the issues, it was about winning, and what could be more important than that? Now you guys can brag about how Obama is a "breath of fresh air after eight years of hell" around the water cooler/student's lounge and how you made a difference by voting, something which ranks somewhere between spelling your name and tying your shoes in the grand list of human accomplishments. Now you have a candidate who will withdraw the troops from Iraq without so much as a second thought of the consequences, who will meet unconditionally with every tyrant hell bent on militarily or politically defeating the West, who will enact New Deal era policies in a time of economic contraction, who will tax the public for a "global poverty initiative", who will spend hundreds of billions more on failing over-funded public schools, government housing, "promise neighborhoods", "green" jobs, and in subsidies for failing corporations like GM simply to support already enriched labor unions.

Savor the victory, I know I did in 2004 when Kerry's concession speech was broadcast in the diner my liberal friend (and Kerry campaign organizer) and I were in. Just remember that this wasn't change we believed in, it is change you believed in. The ball is in your court now, and if Barack Obama cannot deliver then you won't have big bad Bush to hang the blame on.

post any sour grape Republican thoughts/hate messages etc you would like to share.  ;D

Lethevich

This is unsurprising, Gamefaqs used to be the absolute asshole of the internet (it's recently been overtaken by YouTube in sheer Stupidity Magnitude, though). What is surprising is that the guy doesn't post using heavy abbreviation or txt speak :)

(But it's fun to read, of course.)
Peanut butter, flour and sugar do not make cookies. They make FIRE.

Herman


Kullervo

He probably didn't write it, of course.  ::)

(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: MISHUGINA on November 05, 2008, 01:04:24 AM
post any sour grape Republican thoughts/hate messages etc you would like to share.  ;D

Just keep an eye on CMG.
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

karlhenning


Wanderer


flyingdutchman

Quote from: Sforzando on November 05, 2008, 05:19:05 AM
Just keep an eye on CMG.

Exactly.  The rightwing nazi brigade over there will have a field day with all their hatred toward Obama.

(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: jo jo starbuck on November 05, 2008, 05:56:28 AM
Exactly.  The rightwing nazi brigade over there will have a field day with all their hatred toward Obama.

Even though the Wicked Witch from Utah has been conspicuously silent of late.   :D
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

karlhenning

Not surprisingly, Utah was an early call for McCain ; )

flyingdutchman

Quote from: Sforzando on November 05, 2008, 06:41:22 AM
Even though the Wicked Witch from Utah has been conspicuously silent of late.   :D

She could take a permanent sabbatical for all I care.

Dundonnell

Quote from: karlhenning on November 05, 2008, 06:43:39 AM
Not surprisingly, Utah was an early call for McCain ; )

Tell me please......this is merely a polite enquiry from a non-voting(obviously) but very interested European...are there ANY Republicans amongst the members of this site>

Just asking...you understand ;D

karlhenning

I am sure there are, Colin.  Friends of mine, among them  :)

Dundonnell

Quote from: karlhenning on November 05, 2008, 07:01:38 AM
I am sure there are, Colin.  Friends of mine, among them  :)

Well......for what it is worth(probably absolutely nothing at all!).....as someone who IF he had been born an American citizen would probably have ended up by this stage in my life as what used to be called a Rockefeller Republican-probably embodied these days in someone like Senator Susan Collins of Maine-can I offer my congratulations to President Elect Obama?

It ill becomes the losers in any election to do anything other than congratulate the winner on the day of victory :)

karlhenning

Quote from: Dundonnell on November 05, 2008, 07:11:30 AM
It ill becomes the losers in any election to do anything other than congratulate the winner on the day of victory :)

Not that the prospect of ill becoming himself ever stopped "Josquin"  8)

Dundonnell

Quote from: karlhenning on November 05, 2008, 07:15:56 AM
Not that the prospect of ill becoming himself ever stopped "Josquin"  8)

Someone here still has to talk in convoluted 18th century English ;D ;D

karlhenning


Josquin des Prez

Quote from: Sforzando on November 05, 2008, 05:19:05 AM
Just keep an eye on CMG.

I don't see any sour grapes from CMG, except for Saul of course. 

bwv 1080

I have not seen much lately on the citizenship issue - are there a significant number of people hanging on to the hope that Obama will be disqualified over the bogus immigration controversy?

bwv 1080

Here we go.  This woman is actually a member of the Texas state board of education:

QuoteCan we truly even imagine an America under an Obama Administration?   I sincerely believe that an Obama Administration would ultimately mean one thing...the end of America as we know her.  First, I cannot understand how we can potentially elect a man who most likely has violated the Constitution in his very attempt to serve as Commander and Chief.  "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President;" U.S. Constitution, Article II, Section I   

If Obama were a natural born citizen who never lost his citizenship through his adoption while living in Indonesia, then why does he obstinately refuse to present valid documentation?  The fact that a Federal Court Judge did nothing should not surprise any of us.  After all, we know all too well the attack this great Country undergoes on a daily basis from our own militant leftist Judicial Branch.  Can you imagine how much worse this will get with Obama appointees?

There is one glimmer of hope in all of this.  There is a difference between a voidable contract and one that is simply void.  A voidable contract is able to be ratified whereas a void contract is void at its inception and cannot be cured at any point.  If in fact Obama is not constitutionally eligible to be President, this is not something he can ever cure.  His election, his swearing in and oath of office, his service of 3 days, 3 months, 3 years does not ever truly convey to him the authority of President of the United States.  It is void at its inception and, as such, is open to a valid legal attack at any time. 

So we can imagine the blatant disregard for our Constitution, but what other threats does an Obama administration pose?  We have been clearly warned by his running mate, Joe Biden, that America will suffer some form of attack within the first 6 months of Obama's administration.  However, unlike Joe, I do not believe this "attack" will be a test of Obama's mettle.  Rather, I perceive it will be a planned effort by those with whom Obama truly sympathizes to take down the America that is threat to tyranny.  What nobody seems to be discussing is the fact that if such an attack takes place, what about Martial Law?  What happens to expand executive power when a state of civil disorder is declared? 


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