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Edit: The list is complete turn to page 7 to see the results.  The first of the phase 2 threads can be found here (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,14313).

I want to do what Karl is doing but for Bach. :)

Different rules though-- you can nominate three per genre (as specified below), you're not to repeat what's already been nominated, fragments don't count, spurious compositions don't count, and individual works only excepting The Art of the Fugue which will be considered one work, The Well Tempered Clavier will be considered two works, the Mass in B Minor will be considered one work (I say that since some consider it to be several works stitched together).  But the English Suites, for example, will NOT be considered one work.

Genres--
Cantatas (sacred and secular)
All other vocal works
Organ
Keyboard
Solo (non-keyboard) and Chamber
Orchestral

If that doesn't cover everything we can have a potpourri category.  The point is after shortening the list to what are popular to semi-popular works here on gmg, is that we're going to sort them out and construct a list by genre similar to classical.net's guide to cantatas which might provide a basis for newbies to explore Bach, so they do not feel overwhelmed.  If not that, at least we'll have fun sorting out and discussing the merits of works independent of the ever constant discussion of performances.

The Mozart thread is about ready to kick off the second phase, the more interesting one, and hopefully in a few days we'll be there too.  Like Karl, I will update to give lists to see where we stand and make further nominations easier.  Unlike Karl though I will abstain from listing, especially listing a huge #. ;D

I say! You are a fine chap for doing this.

All other vocal works

Magnificat in D, BWV 243
Ermuntre dich, mein schwacher Geist, BWV 454
O Jesulein süss, o Jesulein mild, BWV 493

Organ

Vom Himmel hoch da komm ich her canonic variations, BWV 769
E Major Toccata, BWV 566
C Minor Passacaglia, BWV 582

Keyboard

Goldberg Vars, BWV 988
Italian Concerto, BWV 971
E Minor English Suite, BWV 510

Solo non-keyboard

C Major cello solo suite, BWV 1009
E Major violin solo partita, BWV 1006
A Minor violin solo sonata, BWV 1003

Orchestral
Brandenburg № 3 in G Major, BWV 1048
Brandenburg № 4 in G Major, BWV 1049
Brandenburg № 5 in D Major, BWV 1050

Quote from: DavidW on August 31, 2009, 04:28:59 AM
. . .  Unlike Karl though I will abstain from listing, especially listing a huge #. ;D

Wise-acre!  ;D

(I didn't vote in the Cantatas category, as I have not listened to enough of them, often enough, to drive a vote.)

That's funny Karl because I've listened to the cantatas more often than any other category! :D

Quote from: MN Dave on August 31, 2009, 04:31:54 AM
I say! You are a fine chap for doing this.

Thanks man!  I'll really feel the weight when I have to start sorting this out. :)

Quote from: DavidW on August 31, 2009, 05:05:30 AM
That's funny Karl because I've listened to the cantatas more often than any other category! :D

It's a wide musical world!  I've sung in one, and I later conducted a performance of it, myself.  So I don't feel "shut out" from his Cantatas . . . but for whatever reason(s), they haven't been a field of my own musical inquiry.

To quote Jeeves, I understand they have given satisfaction  8)

Quote from: DavidW on August 31, 2009, 05:06:12 AM
Thanks man!  I'll really feel the weight when I have to start sorting this out. :)

Sort of looks like MN Dave won't play here, either  ;)

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 31, 2009, 05:08:19 AM
Sort of looks like MN Dave won't play here, either  ;)

Oh god. Too much work. I'll list three but they may already be up there.

Cello Suites
Goldberg Variations
Mass in B minor

Quote from: MN Dave on August 31, 2009, 05:09:48 AM
Oh god. Too much work. I'll list three but they may already be up there.

Cello Suites

I listed one.  There are five others, and you can pick three of 'em.

Quote from: MN DaveGoldberg Variations

I nabbed this one already.  Sorry!

Quote from: MN DaveMass in B minor

It's all yours!

I'm a music generalist. I can't be expected to come up with a list for a single composer!

Quote from: MN Dave on August 31, 2009, 05:15:19 AM
I'm a music generalist.

Nothing wrong with that;  we're all still mates!  :D

I do dig this thread.

And I may vote for three Cantatas anyway.

Here goes:

Cantatas

Christ lag in Todesbanden, BWV 4
Nun komm, der Heiden Heiland, BWV 62
Nach dir, Herr, verlanget mich, BWV 150

I want to put in a non-purist vote for Art of the Fugue in the orchestral category.


...runs away and hide in the bushes...

Yeah Dave you'll have to choose on those cello suites, two are taken.  I affirm Springrite's choice to cite Art of the Fugue for orchestral, and it still can be used for keyboard and organ as well. :)

Quote from: DavidW on August 31, 2009, 05:48:03 AM
Yeah Dave you'll have to choose on those cello suites, two are taken. 

Bah.

Quote from: MN Dave on August 31, 2009, 05:55:18 AM
Bah.

Humbug?  ;)

Quote from: DavidW on August 31, 2009, 05:48:03 AM
I affirm Springrite's choice to cite Art of the Fugue for orchestral, and it still can be used for keyboard and organ as well. :)

Affirm whatever you like, but I would reverse the above statement. AoF is keyboard music, this has been resolved by musicologists for decades, and the notion that Bach intended it for indefinite instrumentation is one of those myths that refuse to die. (But in fact one of my favorite versions is the orchestral arrangement by William Malloch known as The Art of Fuguing.)

Otherwise too many to choose from. I gave myself a 3-month project to hear all 60 CDs from the Leonhardt/Harnoncourt cantata set, and I can't even remember all the ones I gave high marks to. Certainly though, the two Passions, the Chromatic Fantasy and Fugue, the Italian Concerto, some of the motets like Singet dem Herrn, and many of the big organ preludes and fugues - the G minor, B minor, D major, F major, and more - would have to be listed.

Quote from: Sforzando on August 31, 2009, 07:38:35 AM
Affirm whatever you like, but I would reverse the above statement. AoF is keyboard music, this has been resolved by musicologists for decades, and the notion that Bach intended it for indefinite instrumentation is one of those myths that refuse to die.

You are absolutely correct. That is why I said my choice is a non-purist one. I listen to the orchestral version or the Simpson quartet version simply because I hear the voiced more clearly. But I really should get a top-notch keyboard version that my untrained ear can follow better.


Oh, and I do love Sleeper Awake as favorite cantata. The others are: Cello Suites, St. Mathew's Passion, Viola da Gamba Sonatas, Goldberg Variation and Sinfonias and Inventions.

I think it's fine to list Art of the Fugue has an orchestral choice because so many like the work performed that way, that I feel it would be a disservice to them to deny them that as their tops just because it's a keyboard work.  Bach already has a catalog, this is not what this thread is really about. :)

Quote from: springrite on August 31, 2009, 07:48:11 AM
You are absolutely correct. That is why I said my choice is a non-purist one. I listen to the orchestral version or the Simpson quartet version simply because I hear the voices more clearly.

Perhaps. But since Bach wrote hundreds of keyboard fugues, it's more than likely he did not expect all the voices to be heard clearly at all times. (There is a school of thought, wrong-headed IMO, that the goal of fugue playing should be always to bring out the subject and let the other voices fend as they may.) Fugue is rather a texture in which there is a fluid interplay of voices, where sometimes one voice is more prominent and sometimes voices disappear into the overall texture.

Oh, I am digressing? My bad. I don't really care.

This is what we have so far (well more like as of 10 minutes ago), I've exluded large lists that broke the rules (only 3 per).  My evening update will clean this up to offer a uniform presentation with full names, and ordering by catalog #, for now this will have to suffice. :)

Cantatas

• Christ lag in Todesbanden, BWV 4
• Nun komm, der Heiden Heiland, BWV 62
• Nach dir, Herr, verlanget mich, BWV 150
• BWV 54
• BWV 169
• BWV 170
• BWV 140

Vocal

• Magnificat in D, BWV 243
• Ermuntre dich, mein schwacher Geist, BWV 454
• O Jesulein süss, o Jesulein mild, BWV 493
• Mass in B minor
• Singet dem Herrn ein neues Lied BWV 225
• Jesu, meine Freude BWV 227
• St Matthew Passion BWV 244
• St John Passion BWV 245

Organ

• Vom Himmel hoch da komm ich her canonic variations, BWV 769
• E Major Toccata, BWV 566
• C Minor Passacaglia, BWV 582
• Trio Sonata in E minor BWV 528
• Fugue in G minor BWV 578
• Leipzig Organ Chorales BWV 651-68

Keyboard

• Goldberg Vars, BWV 988
• Italian Concerto, BWV 971
• E Minor English Suite, BWV 510
• English Suite in D minor BWV 811
• Partita in E minor BWV 830
• Inventions BWV 772-86
• Chromatic Fantasy & Fugue

Solo/Chamber

• C Major cello solo suite, BWV 1009
• E Major violin solo partita, BWV 1006
• A Minor violin solo sonata, BWV 1003
• Violin Sonata in C major BWV 1005
• Cello Suite in C minor BWV 1011
• Musical Offering BWV 1079

Orchestral

• Brandenburg № 3 in G Major, BWV 1048
• Brandenburg № 4 in G Major, BWV 1049
• Brandenburg № 5 in D Major, BWV 1050
• Art of the Fugue
• Double Concerto in D minor BWV 1043
• Brandenburg No. 2 BWV 1047
• Concerto for Keyboard & Strings BWV 1052

Cantata: the gorgeous Trauerode, BWV 198

Orchestral: violin concerto #1, BWV 1041, for that sublime slow movement

Vocal: Christmas Oratorio

Keyboard: WTC

Solo/chamber: Cello suite #4 in E flat, BWV 1010

Definitely not happy with the fact that one piece can only be mentioned once. :'(

These works came up quickly (have they been mentioned?):
Cantatas BWV 106 (Actus tragicus), BWV 84 Ich bin vergnügt mit meinem Glücke & 125 Mit Fried und Freud ich fahr dahin. And for organ the entire Clavier-Übung, dritter Theil.

The rest has been mentioned already, me thinks.

EDIT: not mentioned, though a personal favourite of mine is BWV 1001 (Sonata in G minor for violin solo). From the first bars a delight for the ears ..... and soul.

I would like to just list my all-time favorites in order of affection and no specific categories:

Musical Offering

Mass in B Minor

Violin Concerto in E Major

Chaconne from the Violin Partitia No. 2, in the Busoni piano adaptation

Concerto for Violin and Oboe (I believe this may be a modern adaptation of another concerto, but this is the way I know it), especially the spine-tingling slow movement

Magnificat in D

Brandenburg Concerto No. 5, the first movement with its incredibly beautiful keyboard cadenza

Orchelbuchlein

and of course many many more from the Bard of Harmony, but the above top my list.

Quote from: Chaszz on September 01, 2009, 07:52:28 AM
Concerto for Violin and Oboe (I believe this may be a modern adaptation of another concerto, but this is the way I know it), especially the spine-tingling slow movement

I think that the concertos for oboe, and for oboe d'amore are done by Bach himself and have their own bwv #.  I'd have to check...

Davey, YHM!

Quote from: DavidW on September 01, 2009, 08:19:49 AM
I think that the concertos for oboe, and for oboe d'amore are done by Bach himself and have their own bwv #.  I'd have to check...

The original BWV 1060, which is thought to a be a concerto for oboe and violin is presumed lost, and it survives now as a concerto in C minor for two harpsichords. The index 1060(R) is sometimes assigned to the reconstruction in D minor of the original work.

Quote from: DavidW on August 31, 2009, 04:28:59 AM

The Mozart thread is about ready to kick off the second phase, the more interesting one, and hopefully in a few days we'll be there too.  Like Karl, I will update to give lists to see where we stand and make further nominations easier.  Unlike Karl though I will abstain from listing, especially listing a huge #. ;D

Huh?  What second phase?  :-\

Quote from: opus106 on September 01, 2009, 08:29:07 AM
The original BWV 1060, which is thought to a be a concerto for oboe and violin is presumed lost, and it survives now as a concerto in C minor for two harpsichords. The index 1060(R) is sometimes assigned to the reconstruction in D minor of the original work.

Oh I didn't know that!  Shuckins that's tricky! :D

Quote from: ChamberNut on September 01, 2009, 09:30:08 AM
Huh?  What second phase?  :-\

I thought Karl's plan was to start a separate thread to discuss the works on the list. :)

Quote from: opus106 on September 01, 2009, 08:29:07 AM
The original BWV 1060, which is thought to a be a concerto for oboe and violin is presumed lost, and it survives now as a concerto in C minor for two harpsichords. The index 1060(R) is sometimes assigned to the reconstruction in D minor of the original work.

Interesting you mention this, Navneeth!  :)

On the Barry Lyndon soundtrack CD, the Adagio movement is played (version with 2 harpsichords), while the part played in the actual movie is the version for oboe (don't remember violin, but I guess it must be).

Quote from: ChamberNut on September 01, 2009, 09:44:17 AM
Interesting you mention this, Navneeth!  :)

On the Barry Lyndon soundtrack CD, the Adagio movement is played (version with 2 harpsichords), while the part played in the actual movie is the version for oboe (don't remember violin, but I guess it must be).

On second thought, they might have even used a flute rather than an oboe in the movie, if memory serves me right.

Quote from: DavidW on September 01, 2009, 09:32:31 AM
I thought Karl's plan was to start a separate thread to discuss the works on the list. :)

Plan?  0:) ;D 8)

Gurn's on the thread. Davey, quick!  Specify J.S. Bach! J.S. Bach!

;)

Oh know!  He and Gabriel might quickly spam the thread with CPE Bach's Flute Sonatas!! ;D

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 01, 2009, 10:01:06 AM
Gurn's on the thread. Davey, quick!  Specify J.S. Bach! J.S. Bach!

;)

Now, Karl, I'm not a total pedant. ::)  I realize that you guys wouldn't be talking about the London Bach, or the Berlin Bach. Someday though.... :D

8)

Quote from: DavidW on September 01, 2009, 10:02:26 AM
Oh know!  He and Gabriel might quickly spam the thread with CPE Bach's Flute Sonatas!! ;D

Busted! :( 

(I was just looking up the Wq #'s. :D )

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Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 01, 2009, 09:59:54 AM
Plan?  0:) ;D 8)

Karl wants to just bring a little anarchy to the forum. ;D

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_REkgXByDyuU/SMXuczxxbDI/AAAAAAAAA7U/t4o9OiEr5hQ/s400/HL+Joker.jpg)

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on September 01, 2009, 10:05:13 AM
Busted! :(  

(I was just looking up the Wq #'s. :D )

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I think that's the difference between a CPE Bach fan and everyone else-- a Wq # means something to them! :D

QuoteThe Art of the Fugue

Call me a pedant.

Quote from: Franco on September 01, 2009, 10:07:25 AM
Call me a pedant.

Thanks, Franco. I can sleep again. Crap, I guess I AM a pedant... :-\

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Quote from: Franco on September 01, 2009, 10:07:25 AM
Call me a pedant.

Yeah just terrific, very helpful.  Did you actually want to contribute to the list or not?

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on September 01, 2009, 10:05:13 AM
Busted! :( 

(I was just looking up the Wq #'s. :D )

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You too Gurn, time to pay the piper.  I want my list!

Haydn next.

Quote from: Franco on September 01, 2009, 10:07:25 AM
Call me a pedant.

Dann Sie müssen sagen: "Die Kunst der Fuge."

Quote from: DavidW on September 01, 2009, 10:17:51 AM
Yeah just terrific, very helpful.  Did you actually want to contribute to the list or not?

All mine have been taken.

Quote from: MN Dave on September 01, 2009, 10:19:40 AM
Haydn next.

I'm sure Gurn can handle that, and perhaps George can do one for Beethoven, ChamberNut for Brahms and Elgarian for Handel.  We can really have fun with it. :)

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on September 01, 2009, 10:04:02 AM
Now, Karl, I'm not a total pedant. ::)  I realize that you guys wouldn't be talking about the London Bach, or the Berlin Bach. Someday though.... :D

8)

If Bach is referred to without further identification, J.S. Bach is always assumed.

Now I know that if one speaks of Tchaikovsky, one must be careful to specify Peter Ilyich or Boris . . . .

Quote from: DavidW on September 01, 2009, 10:22:20 AM
I'm sure Gurn can handle that, and perhaps George can do one for Beethoven, ChamberNut for Brahms and Elgarian for Handel.  We can really have fun with it. :)

Phooey. I claim Beethoven.

Quote from: Franco on September 01, 2009, 10:21:47 AM
All mine have been taken.

I'm starting to get the feeling that he's a bleeding chunks composer to some and an all consuming passion for others.  Not as much middle ground as you would find for other composers.  Some want to list a handful of works they cherish, others would want to write the whole catalog down.  Maybe I should contribute now.

Quote from: Sforzando on September 01, 2009, 10:23:15 AM
Phooey. I claim Beethoven.

Do it.

Quote from: Sforzando on September 01, 2009, 10:23:15 AM
Phooey. I claim Beethoven.

That might be better, George would be concerned only with the piano sonatas and variations! :D (now we'll see if he sees this ;D )

Quote from: ChamberNut on September 01, 2009, 09:44:17 AM
Interesting you mention this, Navneeth!  :)

On the Barry Lyndon soundtrack CD, the Adagio movement is played (version with 2 harpsichords), while the part played in the actual movie is the version for oboe (don't remember violin, but I guess it must be).

Quote from: ChamberNut on September 01, 2009, 09:48:52 AM
On second thought, they might have even used a flute rather than an oboe in the movie, if memory serves me right.

BWV 1044, perhaps? It's the concerto for harpsichord, flute and violin. The H has some wonderful passages in the work, and in the second movement the violinist just pizzacatoes [just created that word] along for most of the duration.

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 01, 2009, 10:01:06 AM
Gurn's on the thread. Davey, quick!  Specify J.S. Bach! J.S. Bach!

;)

;D ;D ;D

Quote from: Franco on September 01, 2009, 10:07:25 AM
Call me a pedant.

I thought the second the should be included for an accurate translation of the German. :-\

Quote from: Sforzando on September 01, 2009, 10:22:51 AM
If Bach is referred to without further identification, J.S. Bach is always assumed.

Oui.  Otherwise, we specify (e.g.) the Piscataway Bach

Quote from: DavidW on September 01, 2009, 10:27:44 AM
That might be better, George would be concerned only with the piano sonatas and variations! :D (now we'll see if he sees this ;D )

Of course, it's not difficult to just own everything by Beethoven.

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 01, 2009, 10:30:39 AM
Oui.  Otherwise, we specify (e.g.) the Piscataway Bach

Or the Leominster Bach... ;)

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Quote from: MN Dave on September 01, 2009, 10:34:19 AM
Of course, it's not difficult to just own acquire everything by Beethoven.

Corrected  ;D

Quote from: MN Dave on September 01, 2009, 10:34:19 AM
Of course, it's not difficult to just own everything by Beethoven.

Well, actually it is, if you define everything as everything... Believe me, I tried... :D

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Quote from: DavidW on September 01, 2009, 10:25:44 AM
I'm starting to get the feeling that he's a bleeding chunks composer to some and an all consuming passion for others.

Ugh...that sounds like a description of Wagner. *With a condescending tone* Bach is no Reekhard.

Oh, and no list from me, sorry. I barely know Bach's works to contribute. Moreover, the thread's title includes the G word from which I'd prefer to stay far away.  ::)

Quote from: MN Dave on September 01, 2009, 10:34:19 AM
Of course, it's not difficult to just own everything by Beethoven.

This must be a criticism of the outrageous pricing on the recent Bach Cantata cycles by Suzuki and Kuijken. ;D  And let's not forget Hewitt's recordings of they keyboard works.  Yes it bothers us all Dave. :'(

David,
I am not fully up to date on what's been listed so far.

So here is my puny contribution:

Chromatic Fantasy and Fugue

Cello Suite #5

Concerto for 2 Violins

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Quote from: opus106 on September 01, 2009, 10:36:02 AM
Ugh...that sounds like a description of Wagner. *With a condescending tone* Bach is no Reekhard.

Oh, and no list from me, sorry. I barely know Bach's works to contribute. Moreover, the thread's title includes the G word from which I'd prefer to stay far away.  ::)

What if I said "Bach's Greatest Works as a subjective opinion in case you are constantly trying to differentiate opinion from fact"?  Would that work? ;D  Or do I need to make it "Favorite Bach Works por favor"? :)

Well Bach and Wagner both seem to polarize listeners. :)

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on September 01, 2009, 10:38:38 AM
David,
I am not fully up to date on what's been listed so far.

So here is my puny contribution:

Chromatic Fantasy and Fugue

Cello Suite #5

Concerto for 2 Violins

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My page 2 list hasn't changed much and those are all on there. :D

QuoteWell Bach and Wagner both seem to polarize listeners.

I'd say there many more who are repulsed by Wagner than Bach.  At least there should be.

Quote from: DavidW on September 01, 2009, 10:40:27 AM

Well Bach and Wagner both seem to polarize listeners. :)

Well, I'm not exactly polarized on either of them, more like in the Northern Trade Winds on one and in the Antarctic Circle on the other... :D

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Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 01, 2009, 10:35:31 AM
Corrected  ;D

Hmph.  ::)

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on September 01, 2009, 10:35:48 AM
Well, actually it is, if you define everything as everything... Believe me, I tried... :D

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Oh, you know what I meant.

Quote from: DavidW on September 01, 2009, 10:42:07 AM
My page 2 list hasn't changed much and those are all on there. :D

Doesn't change the fact that I like them. :)

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Quote from: MN Dave on September 01, 2009, 10:44:42 AM
Oh, you know what I meant.

Well, because it's you (even without an avatar I know thee), I'll let you slide. ;)

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Quote from: DavidW on September 01, 2009, 10:40:27 AM
What if I said "Bach's Greatest Works as a subjective opinion in case you are constantly trying to differentiate opinion from fact"?  Would that work? ;D

It might. ;D

QuoteOr do I need to make it "Favorite Bach Works por favor"? :)

That's how they usually end up.

Quote from: MN Dave on September 01, 2009, 10:43:56 AM
Hmph.  ::)

Two days in a row of not pleasing MN Dave!  Argh!  ;)

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 01, 2009, 10:48:02 AM
Two days in a row of not pleasing MN Dave!  Argh!  ;)

;D

Quote from: opus106 on September 01, 2009, 10:46:22 AM
That's how they usually end up.

I think that would be pretty easy considering how much time and effort went into Art of the Fugue and WTC.  We can also judge how valuable Bach himself considered a work based on if he kept a pretty final draft or not.  Brandenburg Concertos and the Orchestral Suites for example he had carefully written up, and delicately added corrections to if anything happened to the paper.  Most of his works did not receive that kind of treatment. :)

Quote from: opus106 on September 01, 2009, 10:28:20 AM
BWV 1044, perhaps? It's the concerto for harpsichord, flute and violin.

No, it was most definitely the BWV 1060

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 01, 2009, 10:30:39 AM
Oui.  Otherwise, we specify (e.g.) the Piscataway Bach

Who may be a very great composer, for all we know.
If you search http://msn.whitepages.com/ for Bach, Piscataway, NJ, there is indeed a Piscataway Bach.

This is what we have so far. :)

Cantatas

• Christ lag in Todesbanden, BWV 4
• Nun komm, der Heiden Heiland, BWV 62
• Nach dir, Herr, verlanget mich, BWV 150
• BWV 54
• BWV 169
• BWV 170
• BWV 140
• BWV 106 (Actus tragicus)
• BWV 84 Ich bin vergnügt mit meinem Glücke
• BWV 125 Mit Fried und Freud ich fahr dahin
• the ever so gorgeous Trauerode, BWV 198 and don't you forget it!

Vocal

• Magnificat in D, BWV 243
• Ermuntre dich, mein schwacher Geist, BWV 454
• O Jesulein süss, o Jesulein mild, BWV 493
• Mass in B minor
• Singet dem Herrn ein neues Lied BWV 225
• Jesu, meine Freude BWV 227
• St Matthew Passion BWV 244
• St John Passion BWV 245
• Christmas Oratorio

Organ

• Vom Himmel hoch da komm ich her canonic variations, BWV 769
• E Major Toccata, BWV 566
• C Minor Passacaglia, BWV 582
• Trio Sonata in E minor BWV 528
• Fugue in G minor BWV 578
• Leipzig Organ Chorales BWV 651-68
• Orchelbuchlein

Keyboard

• Goldberg Vars, BWV 988
• Italian Concerto, BWV 971
• E Minor English Suite, BWV 510
• English Suite in D minor BWV 811
• Partita in E minor BWV 830
• Inventions BWV 772-86
• Chromatic Fantasy & Fugue
• WTC

Solo/Chamber

• C Major cello solo suite, BWV 1009
• E Major violin solo partita, BWV 1006
• A Minor violin solo sonata, BWV 1003
• Violin Sonata in C major BWV 1005
• Cello Suite in C minor BWV 1011
• Musical Offering BWV 1079
• Cello suite #4 in E flat, BWV 1010
• BWV 1001 (Sonata in G minor for violin solo)
• Violin Partitia No. 2 (*cough* it's BWV 1004)

Orchestral

• Brandenburg № 3 in G Major, BWV 1048
• Brandenburg № 4 in G Major, BWV 1049
• Brandenburg № 5 in D Major, BWV 1050
• Art of the Fugue
• Double Concerto in D minor BWV 1043
• Brandenburg No. 2 BWV 1047
• Concerto for Keyboard & Strings BWV 1052
• violin concerto #1, BWV 1041
• Musical Offering
• Violin Concerto in E Major (*cough* it's BWV 1042)
• Concerto for Violin and Oboe (*cough* BWV 1060R)

I still need to compensate for Karl listing 15 freaking items on the Mozart thread, so I'll just list one per, excepting chamber. :D

Cantatas: bwv 147 duh, is Jesu Joy of Man's Desiring too popular?  The arias (and not just that one choral) are the most interesting and compelling parts though and the entire work as a cohesive whole is a magnificent masterpiece.

Vocal: Easter Oratorio because I love it, played by big band romanticized treatments, or lean HIP it's just swell music. :)

Organ: well I actually I need to listen more, and it's been awhile, so I'll pass

Keyboard: French Overture, and yes I did not put the entire Clavier-Ubung on the list (which French Overture is a part of right?) that's cheating, I forgot who did that now!!  Anyway French overture is delightful, charming music.

Solo/Chamber: sonata for viola da gamba bwv 1027 early Bach right? but excellent, love the sound of the instrument, it's beautiful even if not highly compelling drama like his later works I randomly chose 1027, I like them all.  I wanted to talk about flute sonatas or lute suites but I'll not be greedy.

Orchestral: Suite #2 I love it, enough said. :)

Okay it's opened up again, please give me three more each (per genre) if you have any.  When that's died down again I will clean up the list (promise!) and then we can move onto phase 2. :)

OK, David, I'll have a go:

Organ:
BWV 542 Fantasia & Fugue in g minor "The Great Fugue"

Keyboard:
BWV 827 Partita #3 in a minor

Solo:
BWV 1011 Cello Suite #5 in c

Orchestral:
BWV 1067 Orchestral Suite #2 in b minor

Sorry, Dude, I don't know any singing except for the lovely "Coffee Cantata". :)

8)

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Listening to:
Goodman, The Hanover Band - Hob 01 072 Symphony in D 2nd mvmt - Andante

If I put that charming viola da gamba sonata on the list, it would be charming but not one of his great masterpieces.  So if you want to make sure that I don't put it on the list, people will have to get crackin' on coming up with more works. ;D

Oh there we go awesome Gurn!  That's what I'm talking about. :)

Quote from: DavidW on September 01, 2009, 05:55:43 PM
Oh there we go awesome Gurn!  That's what I'm talking about. :)

I wanted to post it this afternoon, but I couldn't remember the BWV #'s   :-[  And then you grabbed off my Orchestral Suite while I was posting! But that's OK, I'll keep it anyway. :)

8)

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Listening to:
Goodman, The Hanover Band - Hob 01 072 Symphony in D 4th mvmt - Finale: Andante - Presto

Poor Gurn, you didn't need to remember I would have looked it up when went to do the official cleanup of the list. :)

I realized that I might as well just wait and only do it once. :D

Okay, there are some I think that are great that have not been mentioned yet, a couple, probably, because they are too often played, but here goes:

Cantata: BWV 82, "Ich Habe Genug"

Vocal: BWV 229: Mottete "Komm, Jesu Komm"

Keyboard: French Suite #2 in C Minor

Solo/Chamber: Sonata in B Minor for Violin and Harpsichord

Orchestral: Concerto In F Minor, BWV 1056

So far, the organ works are an undiscovered country for me.

Quote from: DavidW on September 01, 2009, 05:32:06 PM
This is what we have so far. :)

Cantatas

• Christ lag in Todesbanden, BWV 4
• Nun komm, der Heiden Heiland, BWV 62
• Nach dir, Herr, verlanget mich, BWV 150
• BWV 54
• BWV 169
• BWV 170
• BWV 140
• BWV 106 (Actus tragicus)
• BWV 84 Ich bin vergnügt mit meinem Glücke
• BWV 125 Mit Fried und Freud ich fahr dahin

Vocal

• Magnificat in D, BWV 243
• Ermuntre dich, mein schwacher Geist, BWV 454
• O Jesulein süss, o Jesulein mild, BWV 493
• Mass in B minor
• Singet dem Herrn ein neues Lied BWV 225
• Jesu, meine Freude BWV 227
• St Matthew Passion BWV 244
• St John Passion BWV 245
• Christmas Oratorio

Organ

• Vom Himmel hoch da komm ich her canonic variations, BWV 769
• E Major Toccata, BWV 566
• C Minor Passacaglia, BWV 582
• Trio Sonata in E minor BWV 528
• Fugue in G minor BWV 578
• Leipzig Organ Chorales BWV 651-68
• Orchelbuchlein

Keyboard

• Goldberg Vars, BWV 988
• Italian Concerto, BWV 971
• E Minor English Suite, BWV 510
• English Suite in D minor BWV 811
• Partita in E minor BWV 830
• Inventions BWV 772-86
• Chromatic Fantasy & Fugue
• WTC

Solo/Chamber

• C Major cello solo suite, BWV 1009
• E Major violin solo partita, BWV 1006
• A Minor violin solo sonata, BWV 1003
• Violin Sonata in C major BWV 1005
• Cello Suite in C minor BWV 1011
• Musical Offering BWV 1079
• Cello suite #4 in E flat, BWV 1010
• BWV 1001 (Sonata in G minor for violin solo)
• Violin Partitia No. 2 (*cough* it's BWV 1004)

Orchestral

• Brandenburg № 3 in G Major, BWV 1048
• Brandenburg № 4 in G Major, BWV 1049
• Brandenburg № 5 in D Major, BWV 1050
• Art of the Fugue
• Double Concerto in D minor BWV 1043
• Brandenburg No. 2 BWV 1047
• Concerto for Keyboard & Strings BWV 1052
• violin concerto #1, BWV 1041
• Musical Offering
• Violin Concerto in E Major (*cough* it's BWV 1042)
• Concerto for Violin and Oboe (*cough* BWV 1060R)

Dave,

You left off one for the cantatas I listed earlier:

Quote from: Dancing Divertimentian on August 31, 2009, 10:27:15 AM
Cantata: the gorgeous Trauerode, BWV 198

:)

Quote from: Dancing Divertimentian on September 01, 2009, 06:49:24 PM

Dave,

You left off one for the cantatas I listed earlier:

:)

Oops, sorry dude.  Fixed now. :)

Quote from: DavidW on September 01, 2009, 06:52:16 PM
Oops, sorry dude.  Fixed now. :)

Thankee, sir!

Quote from: DavidW on September 01, 2009, 05:32:06 PM

• the ever so gorgeous Trauerode, BWV 198 and don't you forget it!

;D

Thankeeee, sir![/list]

Seeing the Art of Fugue in the orchestral category is irritating.  Also, the E minor English Suite is BWV 810; dump the (5).

Organ:
Prelude and Fugue in E flat major "St. Anne", BWV 552
Pastorale in F major, BWV 590
Prelude and Fugue in E minor "The Wedge", BWV 548

Keyboard:
Art of Fugue, BWV 1080
Capriccio in B flat major, BWV 992
French Suite No. 2 in C minor, BWV 813

Bachs greatest works?

BWV 1 - 1126 all included, I would say.

Quote from: Sforzando on September 01, 2009, 10:21:11 AM
Dann Sie müssen sagen: "Die Kunst der Fuge."

Ja!
Which means, btw, the Art of the Fugue.

$:)

Call me a pedant; I'm not bovvered.
(Or say I'm totally wrong, and you might be right.)

Quote from: DavidW on September 01, 2009, 05:32:06 PM
This is what we have so far. :)

Cantatas

• Christ lag in Todesbanden, BWV 4
• Nun komm, der Heiden Heiland, BWV 62
• Nach dir, Herr, verlanget mich, BWV 150
• BWV 54
• BWV 169
• BWV 170
• BWV 140
• BWV 106 (Actus tragicus)
• BWV 84 Ich bin vergnügt mit meinem Glücke
• BWV 125 Mit Fried und Freud ich fahr dahin
• the ever so gorgeous Trauerode, BWV 198 and don't you forget it!

Vocal

• Magnificat in D, BWV 243
• Ermuntre dich, mein schwacher Geist, BWV 454
• O Jesulein süss, o Jesulein mild, BWV 493
• Mass in B minor
• Singet dem Herrn ein neues Lied BWV 225
• Jesu, meine Freude BWV 227
• St Matthew Passion BWV 244
• St John Passion BWV 245
• Christmas Oratorio

Organ

• Vom Himmel hoch da komm ich her canonic variations, BWV 769
• E Major Toccata, BWV 566
• C Minor Passacaglia, BWV 582
• Trio Sonata in E minor BWV 528
• Fugue in G minor BWV 578
• Leipzig Organ Chorales BWV 651-68
• Orchelbuchlein

Keyboard

• Goldberg Vars, BWV 988
• Italian Concerto, BWV 971
• E Minor English Suite, BWV 510
• English Suite in D minor BWV 811
• Partita in E minor BWV 830
• Inventions BWV 772-86
• Chromatic Fantasy & Fugue
• WTC

Solo/Chamber

• C Major cello solo suite, BWV 1009
• E Major violin solo partita, BWV 1006
• A Minor violin solo sonata, BWV 1003
• Violin Sonata in C major BWV 1005
• Cello Suite in C minor BWV 1011
• Musical Offering BWV 1079
• Cello suite #4 in E flat, BWV 1010
• BWV 1001 (Sonata in G minor for violin solo)
• Violin Partitia No. 2 (*cough* it's BWV 1004)

Orchestral

• Brandenburg № 3 in G Major, BWV 1048
• Brandenburg № 4 in G Major, BWV 1049
• Brandenburg № 5 in D Major, BWV 1050
• Art of the Fugue
• Double Concerto in D minor BWV 1043
• Brandenburg No. 2 BWV 1047
• Concerto for Keyboard & Strings BWV 1052
• violin concerto #1, BWV 1041
• Musical Offering
• Violin Concerto in E Major (*cough* it's BWV 1042)
• Concerto for Violin and Oboe (*cough* BWV 1060R)

Sir,
I'd like to complain about this list.
I mentioned the entire Third part of the so-called Clavier-Übung!
I don't see it!
Where have you put it?
Shame on you!

Sincerely yours and mine and everyone's,
et cetera et cetera,

Mister Marc (mrs.).

Quote from: premont on September 02, 2009, 01:53:11 AM
Bachs greatest works?

BWV 1 - 1126 all included, I would say.

Lots of your favourites were already mentioned by others!
You have offended the rules and therefore should be banned from this thread .... IMHO. $:)

:P

Quote from: Marc on September 02, 2009, 02:10:15 AM
Lots of your favourites were already mentioned by others!
You have offended the rules and therefore should be banned from this thread .... IMHO. $:)

:P

I do not care about repetitions.
I could repeat them forever. 0:)

Quote from: premont on September 02, 2009, 02:54:35 AM
I do not care about repetitions.
I could repeat them forever. 0:)

Oh dear, an addict.
You need an anti-Bach thorned flower remedy.

(I will probably have to join.)

Quote from: Marc on September 02, 2009, 03:20:43 AM
Oh dear, an addict.
You need an anti-Bach thorned flower remedy.

(I will probably have to join.)

Hi. I'm Navneeth. I'm a Bachaholic. Take that damned remedy away from me!!

Quote from: Bulldog on September 01, 2009, 08:00:52 PM
Organ:
Prelude and Fugue in E flat major "St. Anne", BWV 552

Glad you saw to this one, Don;  that was one I hated to leave out.

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 02, 2009, 04:19:44 AM
Glad you saw to this one, Don;  that was one I hated to leave out.

Beginning and end of the Third part of the Clavier-Übung: mentioned before!

Jan Selderij nog an toe!

Quote from: Marc on September 02, 2009, 02:07:31 AM
Sir,
I'd like to complain about this list.
I mentioned the entire Third part of the so-called Clavier-Übung!
I don't see it!
Where have you put it?
Shame on you!

Sincerely yours and mine and everyone's,
et cetera et cetera,

Mister Marc (mrs.).

Oh I thought you said the entire Clavier-Ubung, okay if it's just the third part it can go on the list.

Yeah, after the entire Leipzig chorales were chosen as one composition, I decided to go for it.
Of course, thanks to the BWV catalogue, we consider almost every piece of it as a separate composition.
But on the whole I really think that the entire Übung 3 is Bach's magnum opus for the organ. As Don & Karl were praising BWV 552 (and rightly so), I also consider every choral piece plus the wonderful Duetti as true masterpieces.

Quote from: Marc on September 02, 2009, 06:23:35 AM
Yeah, after the entire Leipzig chorales were chosen as one composition, I decided to go for it.
Of course, thanks to the BWV catalogue, we consider almost every piece of it as a separate composition.
But on the whole I really think that the entire Übung 3 is Bach's magnum opus for the organ. As Don & Karl were praising BWV 552 (and rightly so), I also consider every choral piece plus the wonderful Duetti as true masterpieces.

Ditto WTC on individual BWV #s, but having to confine oneself to say a three minute Prelude and Fugue seems a little ridiculous! :D

Quote from: DavidW on September 02, 2009, 06:26:13 AM
Ditto WTC on individual BWV #s, but having to confine oneself to say a three minute Prelude and Fugue seems a little ridiculous! :D

Not at all. Give me the C-sharp minor pair from Book 1 any day. 0:)

Quote from: opus106 on September 02, 2009, 06:28:05 AM
Not at all. Give me the C-sharp minor pair from Book 1 any day. 0:)

Below the green lemon!

This is what we have so far. :)

Cantatas

• Christ lag in Todesbanden, BWV 4
• Nun komm, der Heiden Heiland, BWV 62
• Nach dir, Herr, verlanget mich, BWV 150
• BWV 54
• BWV 169
• BWV 170
• BWV 140
• BWV 106 (Actus tragicus)
• BWV 84 Ich bin vergnügt mit meinem Glücke
• BWV 125 Mit Fried und Freud ich fahr dahin
• the ever so gorgeous Trauerode, BWV 198 and don't you forget it!
• BWV 82, "Ich Habe Genug"
• BWV 211 (my bad Gurn)

Vocal

• Magnificat in D, BWV 243
• Ermuntre dich, mein schwacher Geist, BWV 454
• O Jesulein süss, o Jesulein mild, BWV 493
• Mass in B minor
• Singet dem Herrn ein neues Lied BWV 225
• Jesu, meine Freude BWV 227
• St Matthew Passion BWV 244
• St John Passion BWV 245
• Christmas Oratorio
• BWV 229: Mottete "Komm, Jesu Komm"

Organ

• Vom Himmel hoch da komm ich her canonic variations, BWV 769
• E Major Toccata, BWV 566
• C Minor Passacaglia, BWV 582
• Trio Sonata in E minor BWV 528
• Fugue in G minor BWV 578
• Leipzig Organ Chorales BWV 651-68
• Orchelbuchlein
• BWV 542 Fantasia & Fugue in g minor "The Great Fugue"
• Prelude and Fugue in E flat major "St. Anne", BWV 552
• Pastorale in F major, BWV 590
• Prelude and Fugue in E minor "The Wedge", BWV 548
• Clavier-Übung Part III

Keyboard

• Goldberg Vars, BWV 988
• Italian Concerto, BWV 971
• E Minor English Suite, BWV 510
• English Suite in D minor BWV 811
• Partita in E minor BWV 830
• Inventions BWV 772-86
• Chromatic Fantasy & Fugue
• WTC
• BWV 827 Partita #3 in a minor
• French Suite No. 2 in C minor, BWV 813
• Art of Fugue, BWV 1080
• Capriccio in B flat major, BWV 992

Solo/Chamber

• C Major cello solo suite, BWV 1009
• E Major violin solo partita, BWV 1006
• A Minor violin solo sonata, BWV 1003
• Violin Sonata in C major BWV 1005
• Cello Suite in C minor BWV 1011
• Musical Offering BWV 1079
• Cello suite #4 in E flat, BWV 1010
• BWV 1001 (Sonata in G minor for violin solo)
• Violin Partitia No. 2 (*cough* it's BWV 1004)
• BWV 1011 Cello Suite #5 in c
• Sonata in B Minor for Violin and Harpsichord

Orchestral

• Brandenburg № 3 in G Major, BWV 1048
• Brandenburg № 4 in G Major, BWV 1049
• Brandenburg № 5 in D Major, BWV 1050
• Art of the Fugue
• Double Concerto in D minor BWV 1043
• Brandenburg No. 2 BWV 1047
• Concerto for Keyboard & Strings BWV 1052
• violin concerto #1, BWV 1041
• Musical Offering
• Violin Concerto in E Major (*cough* it's BWV 1042)
• Concerto for Violin and Oboe (*cough* BWV 1060R)
• BWV 1067 Orchestral Suite #2 in b minor
• Concerto In F Minor, BWV 1056

Quote from: DavidW on September 01, 2009, 10:25:44 AM
I'm starting to get the feeling that he's a bleeding chunks composer to some and an all consuming passion for others.  Not as much middle ground as you would find for other composers.  Some want to list a handful of works they cherish, others would want to write the whole catalog down.  Maybe I should contribute now.

Technically, 'bleeding chunks' is applicable to Wagner because, with his concept of "through-music" which flows throughout the whole act, there is never an ending cadence except at the end of the act. Therefore individual pieces must literally be ripped from the fabric and do actually bleed, unless a conductor has written or commissioned a false cadence to be used when recording the piece. This cannot be applied to Bach, becuse it is inconceivable that someone would prefer to slice up one of his architecturally perfect movements into one or more sections. For example, have we ever heard only part of the 2nd movement of the third orchestral suite (commonly known as the Air on the G String) or only a portion of the first movement of the D Minor keyboard concerto No. 1? Inconceivable. Therefore, Bach's movements should not be referred to as bleeding chunks.  

Thanks Chasz I hadn't really thought about what the "bleeding chunks" really mean, I just took it to be favorite snips, but put that way I see the appropriateness of applying that specifically to excerpts from Wagner.

Even Bach's huge all consuming works, can still be broken into complete self contained movements. :)

Anyway I guess that's it so on Friday night or maybe on Saturday I'll clean that list up proper and set up phase 2. :)

For the record: just wanted you to know that the Clavier-Übung III is written for organ. It includes a.o. the Prelude & Fuge in E Flat major, BWV 552, AKA "St. Anne".

Quote from: Marc on September 03, 2009, 10:17:51 PM
For the record: just wanted you to know that the Clavier-Übung III is written for organ. It includes a.o. the Prelude & Fuge in E Flat major, BWV 552, AKA "St. Anne".

Oh I suck!  I'm sorry, I'll move it. :)

Relax. No sucking is needed. :P

If you're not familiar with this work and you're getting curious, then just start with BWV 552.
A magnificent prelude in the shape of a french overture, followed by a splendid fugue with a rather catchy theme (IMO).

But the real shivers come with the second 'grand' Kyrie ("Heiliger Geist" BWV 672) and the incomparable "Aus tiefer Not schrei ich zu dir" BWV 687. This one always leaves me breathless.

Apart from that: in general, I think that this work (CU III) is one of Bach's most spiritual and meaningful compositions.

Aha I will give it a try in a few days. :)

You've sold it well. ;D

Breathless Bach

Time for Sarge to get working in PhotoShop  8)

Quote from: Marc on September 04, 2009, 03:59:01 AM
But the real shivers come with the second 'grand' Kyrie ("Heiliger Geist" BWV 672)

Did you mean 671? (I'm just making sure I get the numbers right when I buy the CD. :))

Quote from: opus106 on September 04, 2009, 06:51:51 AM
Did you mean 671? (I'm just making sure I get the numbers right when I buy the CD. :))

You're right. My mistake.
I meant BWV 671 and 686 (both of them belong to the 'grande' chorales).

Quote from: Marc on September 04, 2009, 07:23:49 AM
I meant BWV 671 and 686 (both of them belong to the 'grande' chorales).

Oh, thanks. :)

Candidate for the final list. :)

Cantatas

• BWV 004, Christ lag in Todesbanden
• BWV 054, Widerstehe doch der Sünde
• BWV 062, Nun komm, der Heiden Heiland
• BWV 082, Ich Habe Genug
• BWV 084, Ich bin vergnügt mit meinem Glücke
• BWV 106, Gottes Zeit ist die allerbeste Zeit
• BWV 125, Mit Fried und Freud ich fahr dahin
• BWV 140, Wachet auf, ruft uns die Stimme
• BWV 150, Nach dir, Herr, verlanget mich
• BWV 169, Gott soll allein mein Herze haben
• BWV 170, Vergnügte Ruh', beliebte Seelenlust
• BWV 198, Laß, Fürstin, laß einen Strahl
• BWV 211, Schweigt stille, plaudert nicht

Vocal

• BWV 225, Motet Singet dem Herrn ein neues Lied
• BWV 227, Motet Jesu, meine Freude
• BWV 229, Motet Komm, Jesu Komm
• BWV 232, Mass in B minor
• BWV 243, Magnificat in D major
• BWV 244, St. Matthew Passion
• BWV 245, St. John Passion
• BWV 248, Christmas Oratorio
• BWV 454, Sacred Song Ermuntre dich, mein schwacher Geist
• BWV 493, Sacred Song O Jesulein süss, o Jesulein mild

Organ

• BWV 528, Trio Sonata in E minor
• BWV 542, Fantasia & Fugue in G minor The Great Fugue
• BWV 548, Prelude and Fugue in E minor The Wedge
• BWV 552, Prelude and Fugue in E flat major St. Anne
• BWV 566, Toccata and Fugue in E/C major
• BWV 578, Fugue in G minor The Little Fugue
• BWV 582, Passacaglia in C minor
• BWV 590, Pastorale in F major
• BWV 599, Orgelbüchlein Nun komm, der Heiden Heiland
• BWV 600, Orgelbüchlein Gott, durch deine Güte/Gottes Sohn ist kommen
• BWV 601, Orgelbüchlein Herr Christ, der ein'ge Gottessohn/Herr Gott nun sei gepreiset
• BWV 602, Orgelbüchlein Lob sei dem allmächtigen Gott
• BWV 603, Orgelbüchlein Puer natus in Bethlehem
• BWV 604, Orgelbüchlein Gelobet seist du, Jesu Christ
• BWV 605, Orgelbüchlein Der Tag, der ist so freudenreich
• BWV 606, Orgelbüchlein Vom Himmel hoch, da komm ich her
• BWV 607, Orgelbüchlein Vom Himmel kam der Engel Schaar
• BWV 608, Orgelbüchlein In dulci jubilo
• BWV 609, Orgelbüchlein Lobt Gott, ihr Christen, allzugleich
• BWV 610, Orgelbüchlein Jesu, meine Freude
• BWV 611, Orgelbüchlein Christum wir sollen loben schon
• BWV 612, Orgelbüchlein Wir Christenleut
• BWV 613, Orgelbüchlein Helft mir Gottes Güte preisen
• BWV 614, Orgelbüchlein Das alte Jahr vergangen ist
• BWV 615, Orgelbüchlein In dir ist Freude
• BWV 616, Orgelbüchlein Mit Fried und Freud ich fahr dahin
• BWV 617, Orgelbüchlein Herr Gott, nun schleuß den Himmel auf
• BWV 618, Orgelbüchlein O Lamm Gottes, unschuldig
• BWV 619, Orgelbüchlein Christe, du Lamm Gottes
• BWV 620, Orgelbüchlein Christus, der uns selig macht
• BWV 621, Orgelbüchlein Da Jesus an dem Kreuze stund
• BWV 622, Orgelbüchlein O Mensch, bewein dein Sünde groß
• BWV 623, Orgelbüchlein Wir danken dir, Herr Jesu Christ, daß du für uns gestorben bist
• BWV 624, Orgelbüchlein Hilf, Gott, daß mir's gelinge
• BWV 625, Orgelbüchlein Christ lag in Todesbanden
• BWV 626, Orgelbüchlein Jesus Christus, unser Heiland, der den Tod überwand
• BWV 627, Orgelbüchlein Christ ist erstanden
• BWV 628, Orgelbüchlein Erstanden ist der heil'ge Christ
• BWV 629, Orgelbüchlein Erschienen ist der herrliche Tag
• BWV 630, Orgelbüchlein Heut triumphieret Gottes Sohn
• BWV 631, Orgelbüchlein Komm, Gott Schöpfer, Heiliger Geist
• BWV 632, Orgelbüchlein Herr Jesu Christ, dich zu uns wend
• BWV 633-634, Orgelbüchlein Liebster Jesu, wir sind hier
• BWV 635, Orgelbüchlein Dies sind die heilgen zehn Gebot
• BWV 636, Orgelbüchlein Vater unser im Himmelreich
• BWV 637, Orgelbüchlein Durch Adams Fall ist ganz verderbt
• BWV 638, Orgelbüchlein Es ist das Heil uns kommen her
• BWV 639, Orgelbüchlein Ich ruf zu dir, Herr Jesu Christ
• BWV 640, Orgelbüchlein In dich hab ich gehoffet, Herr
• BWV 641, Orgelbüchlein Wenn wir in höchsten Nöten sein
• BWV 642, Orgelbüchlein Wer nur den lieben Gott läßt walten
• BWV 643, Orgelbüchlein Alle Menschen müssen sterben
• BWV 644, Orgelbüchlein Ach wie nichtig, ach wie flüchtig
• BWV 651-652 Leipzig Organ Chorale Komm, Heiliger Geist, Herre Gott
• BWV 653, Leipzig Organ Chorale An Wasserflüssen Babylon
• BWV 654, Leipzig Organ Chorale Schmücke dich, O liebe Seele
• BWV 655, Leipzig Organ Chorale Herr Jesu Christ, dich zu uns wend
• BWV 656, Leipzig Organ Chorale O Lamm Gottes, unschuldig
• BWV 657, Leipzig Organ Chorale Nun danket alle Gott
• BWV 658, Leipzig Organ Chorale Von Gott will ich nicht lassen
• BWV 659-661, Leipzig Organ Chorale Nun komm, der Heiden Heiland
• BWV 662-664, Leipzig Organ Chorale Allein Gott in der Höh' sei Ehr'
• BWV 665-666, Leipzig Organ Chorale Jesus Christus, unser Heiland
• BWV 667, Leipzig Organ Chorale Komm, Gott Schöpfer, Heiliger Geist
• BWV 668, Leipzig Organ Chorale Komm, Gott Schöpfer, Heiliger Geist
• BWV 669, Chorales Clavierübung III Kyrie, Gott Vater in Ewigkeit
• BWV 670, Chorales Clavierübung III Christe, aller Welt Trost
• BWV 671, Chorales Clavierübung III Kyrie, Gott heiliger Geist
• BWV 672, Chorales Clavierübung III Kyrie, Gott Vater in Ewigkeit
• BWV 673, Chorales Clavierübung III Christe, aller Welt Trost
• BWV 674, Chorales Clavierübung III Kyrie, Gott heiliger Geist
• BWV 675-677, Chorales Clavierübung III Allein Gott in der Höh' sei Ehr'
• BWV 678-679, Chorales Clavierübung III Dies sind die heilgen zehn Gebot
• BWV 680-681, Chorales Clavierübung III Wir glauben all' an einen Gott
• BWV 682-683, Chorales Clavierübung III Vater unser im Himmelreich
• BWV 684-685, Chorales Clavierübung III Christ, unser Herr, zum Jordan kam
• BWV 686-687, Chorales Clavierübung III Aus tiefer Not schrei ich zu dir
• BWV 688, Chorales Clavierübung III Jesus Christus, unser Heiland, der von uns den Zorn Gottes wandt
• BWV 689, Chorales Clavierübung III Jesus Christus, unser Heiland
• BWV 769, Canonic Variations Vom Himmel hoch da komm ich her

Keyboard

• BWV 772, Invention No. 1 in C major
• BWV 773, Invention No. 2 in C minor
• BWV 774, Invention No. 3 in D major
• BWV 775, Invention No. 4 in D minor
• BWV 776, Invention No. 5 in E flat major
• BWV 777, Invention No. 6 in E major
• BWV 778, Invention No. 7 in E minor
• BWV 779, Invention No. 8 in F major
• BWV 780, Invention No. 9 in F minor
• BWV 781, Invention No. 10 in G major
• BWV 782, Invention No. 11 in G minor
• BWV 783, Invention No. 12 in A major
• BWV 784, Invention No. 13 in A minor
• BWV 785, Invention No. 14 in B flat major
• BWV 786, Invention No. 15 in B minor
• BWV 810, English Suite No. 5 in E minor
• BWV 811, English Suite No. 6 in D minor
• BWV 813, French Suite No. 2 in C minor
• BWV 827, Partitas Clavierübung I, Partita No. 3 in A minor
• BWV 830, Partitas Clavierübung I, Partita No. 6 in E minor
• BWV 831, French Overture
• BWV 846, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil I Prelude and Fugue No. 1 in C major
• BWV 847, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil I Prelude and Fugue No. 2 in C minor
• BWV 848, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil I Prelude and Fugue No. 3 in C sharp major
• BWV 849, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil I Prelude and Fugue No. 4 in C sharp minor
• BWV 850, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil I Prelude and Fugue No. 5 in D major
• BWV 851, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil I Prelude and Fugue No. 6 in D minor
• BWV 852, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil I Prelude and Fugue No. 7 in E flat major
• BWV 853, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil I Prelude and Fugue No. 8 in E flat minor
• BWV 854, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil I Prelude and Fugue No. 9 in E major
• BWV 855, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil I Prelude and Fugue No. 10 in E minor
• BWV 856, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil I Prelude and Fugue No. 11 in F major
• BWV 857, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil I Prelude and Fugue No. 12 in F minor
• BWV 858, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil I Prelude and Fugue No. 13 in F sharp major
• BWV 859, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil I Prelude and Fugue No. 14 in F sharp minor
• BWV 860, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil I Prelude and Fugue No. 15 in G major
• BWV 861, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil I Prelude and Fugue No. 16 in G minor
• BWV 862, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil I Prelude and Fugue No. 17 in A flat major
• BWV 863, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil I Prelude and Fugue No. 18 in G sharp minor
• BWV 864, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil I Prelude and Fugue No. 19 in A major
• BWV 865, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil I Prelude and Fugue No. 20 in A minor
• BWV 866, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil I Prelude and Fugue No. 21 in B flat major
• BWV 867, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil I Prelude and Fugue No. 22 in B flat minor
• BWV 868, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil I Prelude and Fugue No. 23 in B major
• BWV 869, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil I Prelude and Fugue No. 24 in B minor
• BWV 870, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil II Prelude and Fugue No. 1 in C major
• BWV 871, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil II Prelude and Fugue No. 2 in C minor
• BWV 872, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil II Prelude and Fugue No. 3 in C sharp major
• BWV 873, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil II Prelude and Fugue No. 4 in C sharp minor
• BWV 874, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil II Prelude and Fugue No. 5 in D major
• BWV 875, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil II Prelude and Fugue No. 6 in D minor
• BWV 876, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil II Prelude and Fugue No. 7 in E flat major
• BWV 877, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil II Prelude and Fugue No. 8 in E flat minor
• BWV 878, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil II Prelude and Fugue No. 9 in E major
• BWV 879, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil II Prelude and Fugue No. 10 in E minor
• BWV 880, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil II Prelude and Fugue No. 11 in F major
• BWV 881, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil II Prelude and Fugue No. 12 in F minor
• BWV 882, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil II Prelude and Fugue No. 13 in F sharp major
• BWV 883, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil II Prelude and Fugue No. 14 in F sharp minor
• BWV 884, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil II Prelude and Fugue No. 15 in G major
• BWV 885, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil II Prelude and Fugue No. 16 in G minor
• BWV 886, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil II Prelude and Fugue No. 17 in A flat major
• BWV 887, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil II Prelude and Fugue No. 18 in G sharp minor
• BWV 888, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil II Prelude and Fugue No. 19 in A major
• BWV 889, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil II Prelude and Fugue No. 20 in A minor
• BWV 890, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil II Prelude and Fugue No. 21 in B flat major
• BWV 891, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil II Prelude and Fugue No. 22 in B flat minor
• BWV 892, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil II Prelude and Fugue No. 23 in B major
• BWV 893, Das Wohltemeprierte Clavier, Teil II Prelude and Fugue No. 24 in B minor
• BWV 903, Chromatic Fantasia & Fugue
• BWV 971, Italian Concerto
• BWV 988, Goldberg Variations
• BWV 992, Capriccio in B flat major
• BWV 1080, Die Kunst der Fuge

Solo/Chamber

• BWV 1001, Sonata for Solo Violin No. 1 in G minor
• BWV 1003, Sonata for Solo Violin No. 2 in A minor
• BWV 1004, Partita for Solo Violin No. 2 in D minor
• BWV 1005, Sonata for Solo Violin No. 3 in C major
• BWV 1006, Partita for Solo Violin No. 3 in E major
• BWV 1009, Suite for Solo Cello No. 3 in C major
• BWV 1010, Suite for Solo Cello No. 4 in E flat
• BWV 1011, Suite for Solo Cello No. 5 in C minor
• BWV 1014, Sonata for Violin and Keyboard No. 1 in B minor
• BWV 1079, Das Musikalisches Opfer

Orchestral

• BWV 1041, Concerto for Violin, Strings and Continuo No. 1 in A minor
• BWV 1042, Concerto for Violin, Strings and Continuo No. 2 in E major
• BWV 1043, Concerto for 2 Violins, Strings and Continuo in D minor, Double Concerto
• BWV 1047, Brandenburg No. 2 in F major
• BWV 1048, Brandenburg No. 3 in G Major
• BWV 1049, Brandenburg No. 4 in G Major
• BWV 1050, Brandenburg No. 5 in D Major
• BWV 1052, Concerto for Keyboard, Strings and Continuo in D minor
• BWV 1056, Concerto for Keyboard, Strings and Continuo in F Minor
• BWV 1067, Orchestral Suite #2 in B minor

Hey David! This list is beginning to look like .... some other one.

Let me help you!

Quote from: premont on September 02, 2009, 01:53:11 AM
Bachs greatest works?

BWV 1 - 1126 all included, I would say.

;D

Quote from: Marc on September 05, 2009, 09:55:31 AM
Hey David! This list is beginning to look like .... some other one.

Let me help you!

;D

haha lol  ;D I have something for that... >:D it's coming up

Quote from: Marc on September 05, 2009, 09:55:31 AM
Hey David! This list is beginning to look like .... some other one.

Let me help you!

;D

And since most of the Big List is just reworkings and transcriptions, this thread is getting kind of redundant. :P ;D

Quote from: opus106 on September 05, 2009, 10:03:57 AM
And since most of the Big List is just reworkings and transcriptions, this thread is getting kind of redundant. :P ;D

Just wait for phase 2. ;D

Yeah but this is what I get for allowing whole books to be nominated. ::)

Quote from: DavidW on September 05, 2009, 10:09:30 AM
Yeah but this is what I get for allowing whole books to be nominated. ::)

;D I notice that the list has expanded a bit. ;)

Quote from: opus106 on September 05, 2009, 10:11:49 AM
;D I notice that the list has expanded a bit. ;)

Yeah just a little bit. ;D

:D

Quote from: opus106 on September 05, 2009, 10:03:57 AM
And since most of the Big List is just reworkings and transcriptions, this thread is getting kind of redundant. :P ;D

Well, after listening to the Big List, I think I couldn't care less about such vapidities. :P >:D

.....................

I think it's time for BWV 58 Ach Gott, wie manches Herzeleid.
(Not on the slightly smaller Big List .... yet.)

Okay there you have it.  Sorry I threw out BWV 1060R because it broke my rules

Quotefragments don't count, spurious compositions don't count

and reconstructions fall into fragment/spurious category.

Phase 2 begins after the three day weekend is over.  In the meantime there are a few things I'm looking for:

(a) corrections to the list, i.e. mistakes I made
(b) identification of any fragments or spurious compositions that somehow made it on the list
(c) voting on a poll (I'm about to make) on whether bwv 1080 should be allowed in any category besides the keyboard

I think I might eliminate bwv 1079 from the orchestral section, isn't it a chamber work?  Can somebody explain to me how it got on the orchestral list?  Or was that simply an accident of mine?

This thread has turned out quite fine. :)

Quote from: Marc on September 05, 2009, 10:15:57 AM
I think it's time for BWV 58 Ach Gott, wie manches Herzeleid.
(Not on the slightly smaller Big List .... yet.)

Yeah I just saw that, it is sad not to see BWV 58 on the list.  On the other hand, I'm glad to see that BWV 88 is NOT on the list, it has it's moments but meh. ;D

Quote from: DavidW on September 05, 2009, 11:05:10 AM
I think I might eliminate bwv 1079 from the orchestral section, isn't it a chamber work? Can somebody explain to me how it got on the orchestral list? Or was that simply an accident of mine?

I'd say: chamber music.
But: this thread is your party. We're only visitors. ;)

Quote from: Marc on September 05, 2009, 02:36:37 PM
I'd say: chamber music.
But: this thread is your party. We're only visitors. ;)

Wouldn't be much of a party if it's just myself. ;D

Okay Musical Offering is now chamber only, also somebody noticed that I just dropped the French Overture down a black hole, it's now on the list. :)

Done, bwv 1080 will only appear in the keyboard list as per the results of the poll. :)

Time to lock the thread, we're done here-- part 2a can be found here (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,14313), other threads will follow quickly on it's feet, we're ready for phase 2.  I hope that posters are willing to keep this going. :)