Countdown to Extinction: The 2016 Presidential Election

[James]

All the economic data says that you're wrong.

The country has an enormous debt.

[PerfectWagnerite]

Typical of most Americans, when things don't go their way they look for a savior, instead of thinking about how they are going to better themselves and set their own life straight. And these are the same clowns who think less govt, yet look for the govt to fix their lives. Sad.

[Archaic Torso of Apollo]

While I actually agree that there are times, particularly in the USA, that the campaign for taking offence at things goes too far, there is something fundamentally wrong with choosing to respond to that by electing someone who finds it okay to mock the "other". Especially when the "other" includes fully half of the population in the form of women.

How do you account for the fact that Trump got 42% of the female vote?

[James]

I find it vastly amusing that anyone would think the private sector has no role in creating problems.

Who the hell do you think lobbies politicians to create the laws that they do?

Both parties have corrupted the system which is based on bribery, I realize that. So yes, insider politicians (both parties) are influenced by this. Both parties dictate what goes on .. resulting in the debt, the perpetual wars etc.

[James]

Typical of most Americans, when things don't go their way they look for a savior, instead of thinking about how they are going to better themselves and set their own life straight. And these are the same clowns who think less govt, yet look for the govt to fix their lives. Sad.

Well, people do pay a lot of taxes. They are probably wanting to see a much better usage of those hard earned dollars by public servants. Not the endless BS that has been going on.

[Madiel]

Both parties have corrupted the system which is based on bribery, I realize that. So yes, insider politicians (both parties) are influenced by this. Both parties dictate what goes on .. resulting in the debt, the perpetual wars etc.

But electing a billionaire makes no sense whatever as a solution to that problem.

[Madiel]

How do you account for the fact that Trump got 42% of the female vote?

There are plenty of women who believe that women ought to be subservient.

[amw]

Not to mention the white supremacy thing, which again, not exactly gender-neutral but fairly close: Exit polls suggest Trump won 52 percent of white women, but generally less than 10 percent of women who weren't white. He also performed much better among white women without college degrees whilst losing (not by much) well-educated white women.

Essentially race and access to education were the deciding factors in the election, more so than gender, although that did play a role in the highly negative views of Clinton held by many voters (male candidates with similar traits, qualities and policy positions, such as her husband, have much higher approval ratings.... both men and women seem to view ambitious and powerful women negatively on balance).

[James]

But electing a billionaire makes no sense whatever as a solution to that problem.

He has deep pockets and wanted the job bad enough and got it. 18 months of slugging it out in the campaign arena. The actual job he got will pay much less than what it cost him to get it. Anyway, we shouldn't jump to judgement yet. It's too early. We will have to wait and see what he can do with the giant mess he's inherited in the 4 years he's got. That's not a lot of time.

[PerfectWagnerite]

There are plenty of women who believe that women ought to be subservient.

I take it simpler than that: 42% of the women who voted are just stupid.

[Madiel]

Well I'm glad he only wants to cancel the unconstitutional ones. Who is going to decide they were unconstitutional? And why do they need cancelling if they were never valid?

And has anyone ordered him a copy of "Rule of Law for Dummies?"

[Tritone]

Tritone, I write laws for a living. So yeah, I spend a large part of my life telling "people" (often companies, not actual human beings) what to do, and it's usually because what they've been doing of their own accord was being selfish arseholes.

But political correctness has little to do with law. It mostly has to do with all those non-traditional groups having a voice and saying they'd quite like to stop being put down all the time.

My own minority status is not immediately visible from just looking at me, so I don't face much trouble. But I sure as hell would prefer to live in a world where people in positions of authority explicitly say that it is NOT okay to make fun of me, to discriminate against me, to threaten me, to bash me or to kill me. Rather than a world where people in positions of authority either endorse the verbal steps or engage in it themselves.

This "little snowflake" is here standing in for all the other snowflakes who didn't make it. The ones who were killed or who were driven to kill themselves. The ones who are too scared to speak.

I don't have a frightful opinion of all human beings. Just the ones who think that they can treat other human beings as a little less human.

One of the "deplorables", presumably.

I'm a supporter of another 'minority' - the gay, conservative Milo Yiannopoulos, who is sick to the death of hearing about victims and the control of the Thought Police.  This is NEVER the way to change community sentiment, particularly if they feel the tail is wagging the dog.  Now, man up and start thinking of the millions of people in America who have families and no job.

[Madiel]

I do think of them. The idea that Trump getting rid of political correctness will help them is absurd.

[(poco) Sforzando]

Here Is What Donald Trump Wants To Do In His First 100 Days

My favorites:

propose a Constitutional Amendment to impose term limits on all members of Congress;

Already opposed by McConnell.

This is your guy, I remind you.

[Dancing Divertimentian]

But overall, 

[(poco) Sforzando]

McConnell can oppose, however, constitutional amendments can be passed by a two-thirds (supermajority) vote of a national convention called by Congress at the request of the legislatures of at least two-thirds (at present 34) of the states.  And then ratified by the legislatures of three-fourths (at present 38) of the states; or State ratifying conventions in three-fourths (at present 38) of the states.

Thanks. I already understand the amendment process. McConnell is refusing to bring it up in the Senate. But he is promising to make repealing Obamacare a pretty "hah" (high) item on his agenda (you could see him licking his chops in gleeful anticipation), thus enjoying the irresistible fun of depriving 20 millions of their health insurance.

[PerfectWagnerite]

Thanks. I already understand the amendment process. McConnell is refusing to bring it up in the Senate. But he is promising to make repealing Obamacare a pretty "hah" (high) item on his agenda (you could see him licking his chops in gleeful anticipation), thus enjoying the irresistible fun of depriving 20 millions of their health insurance.

What a total idiot that McConnell. Guys like him, Harry Reid, Lindsey Graham, McCain, Schumer, and all thos who have basically been lifers in the Senate are what is wrong with this country.

On a related note I can't believe if you go here the predictions are still intact as if adding insult to injury:

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

[(poco) Sforzando]

Looks like some Democrats do not approve of the peaceful transfer of power, a hallmark of the democratic system of government in the United States.

My, my.

My, my, yourself. Freedom of assembly, a hallmark of the democratic system of government in the United States. There's no transfer of power yet. That will happen next January 20. Those people protesting in several cities across the United States are exercising their Constitutional rights under the First Amendment. You gotta hand it to The Donald however: he's really bringing people together.

[(poco) Sforzando]

Regarding Obamacare, the phrase is repeal and replace it; which is not depriving 20 millions of their health insurance.

Huffington Post:
Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan Say Obamacare Repeal Is A High Priority. What happens to the millions who would lose coverage? No one seems to know.

Oh. Sanantonio knows.

[Parsifal]

Huffington Post:
Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan Say Obamacare Repeal Is A High Priority. What happens to the millions who would lose coverage? No one seems to know.

Oh. Sanantonio knows.

All those "right to work" states will become "right to get sick and die" states.

At one point Trump said "we can't have people dying on the street," but he had to take it back after Ryan and his followers took umbrage.