GMG's Greatest Opera Poll of 2017

Started by TheGSMoeller, September 28, 2017, 06:15:18 PM

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GioCar

Quote from: amw on September 29, 2017, 08:40:32 PM
Thanks, I can't spell lol

Don't worry, I'have just pointed this out not to be picky but because it's a very common mistake on that title...

Mahlerian

Quote from: Mirror Image on September 29, 2017, 08:46:54 PM
If Janáček wasn't on your list, I think I'd seriously start to question even my own choices. ;) A wonderful thing that good taste has prevailed! :D

Oops, I forgot Janacek too...I'm going back to add it.  Points haven't been tallied yet anyway, right?
"l do not consider my music as atonal, but rather as non-tonal. I feel the unity of all keys. Atonal music by modern composers admits of no key at all, no feeling of any definite center." - Arnold Schoenberg

North Star

Quote from: Mahlerian on September 30, 2017, 11:16:59 AM
Oops, I forgot Janacek too...I'm going back to add it.  Points haven't been tallied yet anyway, right?
I recall Greg preferring you to inform of changes but keeping the original list intact.
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Mahlerian

Quote from: North Star on September 30, 2017, 11:22:08 AM
I recall Greg preferring you to inform of changes but keeping the original list intact.

Okay, I'll detail the change:

3 - Britten: Turn of the Screw -> 3 - Janacek: From the House of the Dead
"l do not consider my music as atonal, but rather as non-tonal. I feel the unity of all keys. Atonal music by modern composers admits of no key at all, no feeling of any definite center." - Arnold Schoenberg

Ken B

Quote from: Mahlerian on September 30, 2017, 11:26:31 AM
Okay, I'll detail the change:

3 - Britten: Turn of the Screw -> 3 - Janacek: From the House of the Dead

Thus exploding decades of economic theory!

North Star

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TheGSMoeller

Quote from: Ken B on September 30, 2017, 11:49:03 AM
Thus exploding decades of economic theory!

It's my head that explodes.


And I haven't started tallying up points yet so we are all good. But I'm still stressing out over the Ring Cycle decision, going to need some beer to help me through this dark time.

North Star

Quote from: TheGSMoeller on September 30, 2017, 01:21:06 PM
It's my head that explodes.


And I haven't started tallying up points yet so we are all good. But I'm still stressing out over the Ring Cycle decision, going to need some beer to help me through this dark time.
Ah yes, nothing like a case of beer to help with counting things.  0:) :laugh:
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kyjo

Opera is a serious blind spot for me, and this thread reminds me that I need to remedy that ASAP! I recently started listening to Wagner's Die Meistersinger and have enjoyed it so far.
"Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is not enough for music" - Sergei Rachmaninoff

Ken B

Quote from: kyjo on September 30, 2017, 02:03:41 PM
Opera is a serious blind spot for me, and this thread reminds me that I need to remedy that ASAP! I recently started listening to Wagner's Die Meistersinger and have enjoyed it so far.

Well the place to start is with my list! I'm not a big opera person either, and most of my choices are non-opera operas. And none are by Delius  ;)

André

Quote from: kyjo on September 30, 2017, 02:03:41 PM
Opera is a serious blind spot for me, and this thread reminds me that I need to remedy that ASAP! I recently started listening to Wagner's Die Meistersinger and have enjoyed it so far.

Hmmm.. You like challenges, don't you? :P

TheGSMoeller

Any more participants? I will probably tally on Friday.

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: TheGSMoeller on October 03, 2017, 04:30:26 AM
Any more participants? I will probably tally on Friday.

Have you made a decision on the Ring vs its separate parts?

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Sergeant Rock

Numbers refer to points given:

10 Der Ring des Nibelungen (or Die Walküre)
9 Tristan und Isolde
8 Parsifal
7 Don Giovanni
6 Die Zauberflöte
5 Otello
4 Madama Butterfly
3 L'Orfeo
2 Orfeo ed Euridice
1 Pelléas et Mélisande
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Ken B

Quote from: sanantonio on October 03, 2017, 04:46:54 AM
These are my favorite operas - not the "greatest".  So sue me.

+10 Debussy: Pelléas et Mélisande



That is one I have never heard, except brief bits. I have it, it just sits unheard, as it has for decades. Together with almost all of Verdi ...

Parsifal

#55
10 - Das Rhinegold
9 - Salome
8 - Zauberflote
7 - Cunning Little Vixen
6 - Peter Grimes
5 - Tannhauser
4 - Otello
3 - Tosca
2 - Giulio Cesare (Handel)
1 - Wozzeck

(points indicated)

TheGSMoeller

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on October 03, 2017, 04:43:34 AM
Have you made a decision on the Ring vs its separate parts?

Sarge

I'll just stick with individual operas since most have either only listed one, or (have once in parenthesis next to Ring Cycle). For those that are against this, I apologize, this will all be over soon and we will move to our next controversial "Greatest" list shortly.  8) :)

Florestan

Quote from: TheGSMoeller on October 03, 2017, 04:30:26 AM
Any more participants? I will probably tally on Friday.

I'd like to modify my list thus:

03 Verdi - La traviata
02 Puccini - Tosca

Because it has just crossed my mind that any "Greatest Operas" list which doesn't feature Verdi and Puccini is insane.  :D
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy

Spineur

Quote from: Florestan on October 03, 2017, 10:13:07 AM

Because it has just crossed my mind that any "Greatest Operas" list which doesn't feature Verdi and Puccini is insane.  :D
Absolutely !  But, both of them composed so many good operas that our votes are necessarily spread and get a big dilution.  From that standpoint, Debussy has an unfair advantage !

TheGSMoeller

Quote from: sanantonio on October 03, 2017, 10:09:24 AM
One of the most enjoyable, for me, productions is the Robert Wilson "blue" video.

I would be interested in seeing Wilson's production, I really enjoyed his take on Monteverdi's L'Orfeo.