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Zeus

Cras: Piano Quintet, String Quartet
Sine Qua Non Quartet, Jean-Pierre Ferey
Skarbo



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"There is no progress in art, any more than there is progress in making love. There are simply different ways of doing it." – Emmanuel Radnitzky (Man Ray)

Karl Henning

Quote from: Traverso on October 25, 2018, 06:56:07 AM
You're probably right, but on the other hand, my experience is that when you're just going to listen it's not that bad. There are a few tough notes like that piano sonata, but on the whole it's certainly not inaccessible.
As has been said before it is like learning a new language and are you prepared to do so ?

one must sow before you can reap

Questions of my own preparation aside, I like a good deal of the Boulez I have heard.  I have no problem with understanding Hemingway's English, but I may or may not think much of the content.  It is, likely, no particular reflection on Boulez that, where I have felt drawn to listen to as much of (for instance) Stravinsky's work as I can, I do not feel a similar motivation with the Frenchman.  I do not have a firm answer to the question:  is 13 discs of Boulez too much for me?  Maybe.  Or, it may be just right.

I'll start by listening to the Boulez I have already got.
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[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Ghost of Baron Scarpia

I would have gotten the complete set, except that by the time it came out I had most of his works on various recordings. The only Boulez pieces I don't care to hear are the ones where electronic manipulation of sound is involved (which is a not insubstantial fraction).

aligreto

Rimsky-Korsakov: Scheherazade [Mackerras]





For me, this is a strong, powerful performance from the opening bars. This performance is packed with many elements: dream like lyricism, powerful picture painting and storytelling abound in a rich tapestry of sound. The playing is wonderful and evokes the mood of the various tales rather well.

Ghost of Baron Scarpia

Quote from: aligreto on October 25, 2018, 08:17:07 AM
Rimsky-Korsakov: Scheherazade [Mackerras]





For me, this is a strong, powerful performance from the opening bars. This performance is packed with many elements: dream like lyricism, powerful picture painting and storytelling abound in a rich tapestry of sound. The playing is wonderful and evokes the mood of the various tales rather well.

Haven't listened to it for many years, but I remember that one did not do it for me. My favorites are Karajan and Ansermet





Wagnerized and Frenchified, respectively.

aligreto

Quote from: Ghost of Baron Scarpia on October 25, 2018, 08:29:03 AM
Haven't listened to it for many years, but I remember that one did not do it for me. My favorites are Karajan and Ansermet





Wagnerized and Frenchified, respectively.

I have a number of versions in my collection but I must admit that I have not heard either of those two versions.

Ghost of Baron Scarpia

Quote from: aligreto on October 25, 2018, 08:35:56 AM
I have a number of versions in my collection but I must admit that I have not heard either of those two versions.

I like them because they more-or-less span the performance traditions, Germanic to French. You can tell they're going to be very different just from hearing the opening violin solo. In the Berlin recording it is all legato, in the Ansermet it is all spizzicato.

It's not a piece I feel I need oh-so-many different interpretations of.

Zeus

#123387
Albanian Memories
Klaidi Sahatçi and Dhurata Lazo
self-published



Enjoyable, interesting Albanian music for violin and piano; mostly written within the last 50 years, but in a romantic (or gypsy?) style.

Recommended !!
"There is no progress in art, any more than there is progress in making love. There are simply different ways of doing it." – Emmanuel Radnitzky (Man Ray)

Mandryka

#123388


Lonquich's second recording of Schubert 959/I. He says

QuoteIt proceeds by interruptions and harmonic digressions, including the second theme, which begins in gentle, questioning fashion, but whose concluding section, after various unexpected vicissitudes, has something stagnant about it. As in the previous sonata, the coda is a metaphorical figure of the acceptance of an insoluble situation, creating, this time, a complex layer of rhythms, at once mobile and static; the concluding arpeggios lead to an intense silence.

I find these comments indispensable for listening to the performance, I listened at first without them and what he does  seemed self conscious and pointless and annoying. However the comments are helpful and I can follow his vision as reported pretty well in what he does, and so I can see better what he's doing, and better speculate why. This intellectual engagement is good, much better than letting it just wash over you in an animal way or dismissing his ideas in a boorish way.

It still seems self conscious and pointless and annoying though. Maybe I'm not really sympathetic to the sonata.

I don't know if these notes, and my need for them, is a weakness , I am very glad to have access to the music and the notes. In truth I wish more pianists would articulate their ideas like Lonquich, the music doesn't speak for itself necessarily, it's more complex than that.

It makes me think of the complex titles and commentaries some artists give to their paintings.

I'll  listen to his first recording of 959/I tomorrow.
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Ghost of Baron Scarpia

Wellesz, Symphony No 2 again.



My initial impression that it is a work of great depth and beauty is confirmed. It has a first movement of Brucknerian grandeur, a scherzo featuring pervasive counterpoint, a sensuous slow movement alternative a lyrical theme and another theme which has the rhythms of a funeral march. The finale alternates contrapuntal and lyrical sections. If the work has a weakness it is that the closing doesn't have quite the weight necessary to bring such an ambitious work to a completely satisfying conclusion.

kyjo

Quote from: Biffo on October 21, 2018, 06:30:00 AM
Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra conducted by Jakub Hrusa - concert given 13 October 2018

Dvorak: The Golden Spinning Wheel, Op 109
Martinu: Concerto for Violin and Orchestra No 1 with Frank Peter Zimmermann
Janacek: Taras Bulba Rhapsody for Orchestra

Taras Bulba doesn't always work for me but this was a very moving performance with a magnificent Apotheosis

What a great, unhackneyed program!
"Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is not enough for music" - Sergei Rachmaninoff

Zeus

#123391
Anastasis-Messe
Frederik Magle
self-published, 2017



First listen.  So far quite good.

Update – I think it's quite good.  Reminds me a bit of Golijov and even more of Olafur Arnolds in how it tries to mix traditional and contemporary musical styles.  This kind of hybridization can fail miserably if done badly.  I think Magle succeeds here.

I'll have to play it again in a week or two to see what I think on second listen.
"There is no progress in art, any more than there is progress in making love. There are simply different ways of doing it." – Emmanuel Radnitzky (Man Ray)

cilgwyn

This opera has an entertaining story line,which appeals to me;due to my love of legends and folklore. The score is colourful and has plenty of vigour,where required. I like it very much. This is a mono recording from 1957,but the sound is allot better than I expected,from some of the posts I have read on Amazon. The singing,and contributions from the chorus,sound excellent to my ears and,I'm getting towards the finale now,which is,appropriately,dramatic. A very enjoyable opera. I'm impressed! :)


aligreto

Music from the Sammartini brothers





G Sammartini: Recorder Concerto
GB Sammartini: Sinfonia


This is delightful music that is very engagingly played.

aligreto

Quote from: Ghost of Baron Scarpia on October 25, 2018, 08:42:55 AM
I like them because they more-or-less span the performance traditions, Germanic to French. You can tell they're going to be very different just from hearing the opening violin solo. In the Berlin recording it is all legato, in the Ansermet it is all spizzicato.

It's not a piece I feel I need oh-so-many different interpretations of.

Thank you for that.
I agree with you one does not really need multiple versions of the work, even though it is interesting music. The reason that I have a number of versions is that it is included on far more of the older vinyl compilations than on those on CD that own.

aligreto

Quote from: cilgwyn on October 25, 2018, 09:40:53 AM
This opera has an entertaining story line,which appeals to me;due to my love of legends and folklore. The score is colourful and has plenty of vigour,where required. I like it very much. This is a mono recording from 1957,but the sound is allot better than I expected,from some of the posts I have read on Amazon. The singing,and contributions from the chorus,sound excellent to my ears and,I'm getting towards the finale now,which is,appropriately,dramatic. A very enjoyable opera. I'm impressed! :)



I do not know or own the work but I would have assumed that Cluytens would have been a good bet here.

mc ukrneal

Quote from: aligreto on October 25, 2018, 08:17:07 AM
Rimsky-Korsakov: Scheherazade [Mackerras]





For me, this is a strong, powerful performance from the opening bars. This performance is packed with many elements: dream like lyricism, powerful picture painting and storytelling abound in a rich tapestry of sound. The playing is wonderful and evokes the mood of the various tales rather well.
I love this version. One of the best....
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JBS

Quote from: Traverso on October 25, 2018, 06:56:07 AM
You're probably right, but on the other hand, my experience is that when you're just going to listen it's not that bad. There are a few tough notes like that piano sonata, but on the whole it's certainly not inaccessible.
As has been said before it is like learning a new language and are you prepared to do so ?

one must sow before you can reap

I found that set illuminating and rewarding.  I should note that for much of the music, I have no other recordings, and about half of it I had never heard before I listened to the set.   
My reaction to Boulez is essentially, he got better as he got older.  At least, the later the date of composition, the more I like the piece.  The arrangement of the set, in chronological order,  helped confirm that as I listened to it.  And it's not a matter of getting used to Boulez's style as I listened more.  I still dislike Marteau sans Maitre, and the recording of it that I least dislike was actually one in which Boulez did not participate.

I suppose the most important factor in that set is the question of how much of Boulez on DG do you already have?

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aligreto

Quote from: Ghost of Baron Scarpia on October 25, 2018, 08:29:03 AM
Haven't listened to it for many years, but I remember that one did not do it for me. My favorites are Karajan and Ansermet

Quote from: mc ukrneal on October 25, 2018, 10:07:25 AM
I love this version. One of the best....

The diversity of opinion is great  :)

Ghost of Baron Scarpia

Quote from: aligreto on October 25, 2018, 10:11:23 AM


The diversity of opinion is great  :)

The thought occurred to me to revisit the Mackerras, but it is gone. Sold to some used-CD shop at some point... :(

I found I have several others that I forgot about, Reiner and Kondrashin. Probably several more lurk in all those ICON boxes I have.