Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)

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Quote from: SimonNZ on February 07, 2019, 04:21:56 AM
Oh please. I'll bet you any money that he's paid off multiple mistresses to have abortions and keep quiet about it.

Don't you know it's ok when Trump does it, because Trump is the chosen one, chosen by God himself to be the president. Fox News would have exploded if Obama had 1 % of the scandals Trump has, but the only thing they criticize is Trump's will to reduce troops in the middle east.
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Quote from: SimonNZ on February 07, 2019, 04:21:56 AM
Oh please. I'll bet you any money that he's paid off multiple mistresses to have abortions and keep quiet about it.

     This is not about what Repub wives and girlfriends do. It's about what the poor are permitted to do. Repubs courageously speak out against other people having choices that Repubs will never give up.

     
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     Are Republicans the Party of No Ideas on Health Care?

     The author believes that Repub failure should be replaced by CATO failure, like this would be an advance. This is called having ideas.

The Cato Institute's Michael Cannon has long called for the creation of large Health Savings Accounts that would dramatically increase the amount of money individuals could put into tax-free accounts for medical expenses, including health insurance, potentially giving millions of people an optional exit from employer-sponsored insurance.
     
    The author is proposing that government subsidy of private plans be replaced by a different subsidy of a different private plan designed to give a different tax break for people to escape something into something. The millions that need health care they can't afford are not the intended beneficiaries, if any, of these revolutionary changes.

     This is the choice, no ideas or horrible stupid ones no one can use to solve the problem.
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Quote from: North Star on February 07, 2019, 02:43:49 AM
And by infanticide, I assume you are referring to letting one doctor, instead of three, approve a third trimester abortion, and and including some other serious health issues than severe deformation to allow for a third trimester abortion.

The bill's author (and other legislators) has been quoted as saying the bill would allow abortion for any health reason, not just serious health issues. In effect, a co-operative doctor could allow any pregnant woman to abort her baby for any reason up to and including the moment of birth.

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Quote from: drogulus on February 07, 2019, 05:08:45 AM
     Are Republicans the Party of No Ideas on Health Care?

     The author believes that Repub failure should be replaced by CATO failure, like this would be an advance. This is called having ideas.

The Cato Institute's Michael Cannon has long called for the creation of large Health Savings Accounts that would dramatically increase the amount of money individuals could put into tax-free accounts for medical expenses, including health insurance, potentially giving millions of people an optional exit from employer-sponsored insurance.
     
    The author is proposing that government subsidy of private plans be replaced by a different subsidy of a different private plan designed to give a different tax break for people to escape something into something. The millions that need health care they can't afford are not the intended beneficiaries, if any, of these revolutionary changes.

     This is the choice, no ideas or horrible stupid ones no one can use to solve the problem.

The idea is a simple one, the sort I thought you liked.

Currently employers get a tax benefit if they provide health insurance to their employees, but no one else gets that benefit. The plan would allow  individuals to get a similar tax benefit, which allow them to purchase insurance as individuals  and not have to rely on employers.

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North Star

Quote from: JBS on February 07, 2019, 06:29:59 AM
The bill's author (and other legislators) has been quoted as saying the bill would allow abortion for any health reason, not just serious health issues. In effect, a co-operative doctor could allow any pregnant woman to abort her baby for any reason up to and including the moment of birth.
What would a non-serious health reason for abortion be?
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Quote from: North Star on February 07, 2019, 06:42:40 AM
What would a non-serious health reason for abortion be?

Apparently, any reason would do, even trivial ones, as long as one MD is willing to write it up as connected to the pregnancy.

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drogulus

Quote from: JBS on February 07, 2019, 06:34:25 AM
The idea is a simple one, the sort I thought you liked.

Currently employers get a tax benefit if they provide health insurance to their employees, but no one else gets that benefit. The plan would allow  individuals to get a similar tax benefit, which allow them to purchase insurance as individuals  and not have to rely on employers.

     I don't like an idea intended to move covered people to different coverage if it ignores the problem that coverage is not universal, the problem that will be solved or the exercise is a distraction. If you want to solve this problem while solving the problem, that's acceptable. It's not a substitute. I made that clear before, now it's clearly clear.

Quote from: North Star on February 07, 2019, 06:42:40 AM
What would a non-serious health reason for abortion be?

    The point is to introduce the concept of "abortion fraud" on the model of "voter fraud". We don't need reasons and your reasons are the wrong ones.
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Well, listen to him squeal!

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North Star

Quote from: JBS on February 07, 2019, 06:48:32 AM
Apparently, any reason would do, even trivial ones, as long as one MD is willing to write it up as connected to the pregnancy.
So, any circumstance where an MD would consider an abortion justified for a health reason? I find it rather silly that this is depicted as leading to pregnant women getting abortions en masse near the end of their pregnancy if they suddenly decided they want a boy and not a girl, or no child at all, or something. Abortions at that point usually happen for a very good reason, and the legislation would still require the MD, or several, to approve it based on a medical reason connected to the pregnancy. The current legislation similarly allows for an abortion for even a trivial reason if three MDs are willing to write it up as endangering the life of the mother. Most of the MD's in the US who hold scientifically questionable views tend to be against abortion, anyway.
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Quote from: North Star on February 07, 2019, 07:16:41 AM
So, any circumstance where an MD would consider an abortion justified for a health reason? I find it rather silly that this is depicted as leading to pregnant women getting abortions en masse near the end of their pregnancy if they suddenly decided they want a boy and not a girl, or no child at all, or something. Abortions at that point usually happen for a very good reason, and the legislation would still require the MD, or several, to approve it based on a medical reason connected to the pregnancy. The current legislation similarly allows for an abortion for even a trivial reason if three MDs are willing to write it up as endangering the life of the mother. Most of the MD's in the US who hold scientifically questionable views tend to be against abortion, anyway.

     That's understood. It's a form of abortion fraud fraud.
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SimonNZ

Trump at National Prayer Breakfast:

"Since the founding of our nation, many of our greatest strides – from gaining our independence to abolition of civil rights to extending the vote for women – have been led by people of faith,"

Even without the Freudian Slip thats a highly problematic statement.


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     Will no one rid me of this turbulent billionaire?

     
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     New Trump Probe Looks a Lot Like a RICO Investigation

     There will be no SDNY report to suppress. We don't need no stinking report. As for Congress, they will retrace as much of TrumPutin as necessary. The public will have the opportunity to compare their report to what the WH permits to see the light of day, and draw conclusions.
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