Quiz: Mystery scores

[lukeottevanger]

I'll try to play too. 202 is from the ending of Hansel and Gretel by Humperdinck.

Not the ending - the climax of the dream-pantomime actually, towards the end of Act I - but yes, that's the piece. It might be just me, but this particular climax is extraordinarily effective, don't you think?

[J.Z. Herrenberg]

There is a 'Mannheim Rocket' in 165. A name that pops up is Stamitz, but he's not extremely famous. So 165 could be either Haydn or Mozart (Beethoven uses it too, of course, at the start of his career). That is as far as I can come.

[Maciek]

Ah, you know how to taunt me, don't you, Luke? Very well, I shall take a look at this thread then...

[lukeottevanger]

Jez - None of those. Somewhat later than the last of them. This is a fairly early work, remember.

Maciek - taunt? moi?

[J.Z. Herrenberg]

Last try: it's early Schubert. But I don't know the work in question.

[lukeottevanger]

Jez - correct. It's a symphony, as I said already, so the key might help you.


Just to be entirely straight, I would add a small rider to my clues above - 'extremely famous' is quite a large category, and I suppose it extends from Bach, Mozart Beethoven etc. right down to those who 99% of classical listeners will know at least by name, someone of the fame level of, say, Poulenc or Hindemith (neither of these two are amongst the composers here, btw). Most of the composer of those I've given clues to above fit into the top end of this category, but a couple come slightly lower down the list (e.g. 183 and 184). Still, those who frequent this thread will certainly know these two composers, and probably these specific pieces too.

[(poco) Sforzando]

Not the ending - the climax of the dream-pantomime actually, towards the end of Act I - but yes, that's the piece. It might be just me, but this particular climax is extraordinarily effective, don't you think?

Close enough for credit, no? I have always thought Mahler had this work in his mind when writing the finale of #3. A few others I can get right now, more or less - some more securely than others:

165 is from the finale of Schubert's 4th symphony, the Tragic.
166 is from the Brahms Serenade in D.
169 - wouldn't be surprised if this is from a sinfonia concertante by Haydn, but the one I know is in Bb.
170 - looks Brahmsian, but I can't place it.
172 - this is Schumann, the song about the rolling wheel that was originally part of the Dichterliebe.
178 - this is the end of Act 4 of Debussy's Pelleas et Melisande.

[lukeottevanger]

,,,ah, and before Maciek points it out, I've just remembered that he set a Schubert piece before too.   

So if I were you, I'd ignore the parts of my clues which mention how many times the composer has appeared already! My memory is failing me today....

[lukeottevanger]

Close enough for credit, no?

Of course - you identified the piece, after all!

165 is from the finale of Schubert's 4th symphony, the Tragic.

Yes

166 is from the Brahms Serenade in D.

Yes

169 - wouldn't be surprised if this is from a sinfonia concertante by Haydn, but the one I know is in Bb.

No, but very close. Even more famous composer!

170 - looks Brahmsian, but I can't place it.

Yes - and I'm sure you can. Think of the instrumentation...

172 - this is Schumann, the song about the rolling wheel that was originally part of the Dichterliebe.

Yes

178 - this is the end of Act 4 of Debussy's Pelleas et Melisande.

Yes

[Maciek]

Well, obviously it has to be Szymanowski's 2nd Symphony (the finale).

[lukeottevanger]

It would be if I had that score, but as I don't, no, it isn't. Which one, btw? Remember, this one is one of the later scores I added, not the ones I gave clues to earlier.

[lukeottevanger]

Did you mean no 200? No, that one is reserved for taunting Guido, not you..... 

(I'm not really trying to taunt, you know.)

[(poco) Sforzando]

Of course - you identified the piece, after all!
YesYesNo, but very close. Even more famous composer!Yes - and I'm sure you can. Think of the instrumentation...YesYes

If it's not Haydn, it's got to be Mozart.

The Brahms could be from the Liebeslieder waltzes.

[Maciek]

It would be if I had that score, but as I don't, no, it isn't. Which one, btw? Remember, this one is one of the later scores I added, not the ones I gave clues to earlier.

Oh, blast! I thought I'd take a blind shot - no specific score in mind. I'm currently running around the house doing 3-4 things at the same time and simply can't sit down for long enough to take a look at the scores. Not just yet...

(Unfortunately, don't own that one either... )

[lukeottevanger]

If it's not Haydn, it's got to be Mozart.

The Brahms could be from the Liebeslieder waltzes.

Both correct. The Brahms is from the second set (Neue Liebeslieder...). It's the last one, a Goethe setting, where Brahms sublimates the waltz metre, broadening it out into 9/4. But the ghost of the basic 3/4 still exists in the dotted barlines with which he subdivides the vocal parts.

The Mozart piece? You were right before, actually, just the wrong composer!

[Maciek]

195 Rubbra - Prelude and Fugue on a Theme by Cyril Scott?

[lukeottevanger]

Bloody hell - fantastic! Did I leave in a stupid clue, or are you in fact a genius?

[lukeottevanger]

The Brahms could be from the Liebeslieder waltzes.

Just for fun, and because it is relatively little-known and lovely, Brahms in his resigned, lyrical, nostalgic mode, here it is - the last of the Neue Liebeslieder Waltzes, setting Goethe's Zum Schluss. In reduced quality, of course...

[Maciek]

Bloody hell - fantastic! Did I leave in a stupid clue, or are you in fact a genius?

Well, I am of course a genius but in this case it has nothing to do with that.

199 Lutoslawski's 2nd Study/Etude (which is the more standard English term really?). Don't know this very well but had an inkling I had seen it. The only recording I have is a bit boring (or I haven't "discovered" the excitement yet ) and the piece looks bloody difficult - I've never even tried to play a single note!

[lukeottevanger]

Well, I am of course a genius but in this case it has nothing to do with that.

199 Lutoslawski's 2nd Study/Etude (which is the more standard English term really?). Don't know this very well but had an inkling I had seen it. The only recording I have is a bit boring (or I haven't "discovered" the excitement yet ) and the piece looks bloody difficult - I've never even tried to play a single note!

Nor have I....well, I think I played through the first one once, but wasn't hooked enough to continue on to no 2! I think this is his 'op 1' isn't it?

You can now retire, Polish pride retained....

(although I'd rather you didn't)