Bruckner's Abbey

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Cato

Quote from: brewski on May 05, 2023, 04:27:23 PMThis afternoon was terrific. I did not realize that the entire program—the motet Christus factus est, the Ninth Symphony, and the Te Deum—would be played without pause, for an uninterrupted 1 hour and 45 minutes. Yannick Nézet-Séguin cued everything perfectly, with not a peep of applause until the very end, when all hell broke loose.

The 100-voice chorus was magnificent, as were the four soloists in the Te Deum, and the orchestra sounded terrific. While I'm perfectly happy with the three-movement torso of the Ninth Symphony, adding the Te Deum as a finale is not an unattractive thesis, and at least here, proved overwhelming—perhaps because of the quality of the musicianship. (The Philadelphia horn section was particularly on fire today.)

To top it off, the place was packed. I mean, I'm wearily aware that Bruckner has more detractors than admirers, so to be in a sold-out hall with people cheering afterward was great fun.

I'm hearing the entire thing again on Saturday night (there are only two performances) and honestly, can't wait.

-Bruce




Great and very heartening news!

There are many good people still around who seek the best!

For several years in a row, under conductor Stefan Sanderling, The Toledo Symphony offered a Bruckner symphony performance every year in the local Catholic cathedral. 

A large crowd was always in attendance!  So, I am not necessarily sure that more detractors than admirers are around.

Or perhaps Brucknerians are very loyal and want to hear and support live performances. 
"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

brewski

Quote from: Cato on May 05, 2023, 06:04:17 PMFor several years in a row, under conductor Stefan Sanderling, The Toledo Symphony offered a Bruckner symphony performance every year in the local Catholic cathedral. 

A few years ago, a bassist in the orchestra sent me a recording of one of those, the Eighth. Had never heard the Toledo group before, and was quite surprised—maybe I shouldn't have been—at how good it was.

-Bruce
"I set down a beautiful chord on paper—and suddenly it rusts."
—Alfred Schnittke (1934-1998)

vers la flamme

Favorite recordings of the three masses? I do not know them nearly well enough.

ChamberNut

Quote from: vers la flamme on May 06, 2023, 01:12:43 PMFavorite recordings of the three masses? I do not know them nearly well enough.

Herreweghe for the F minor mass for me.

Jochum for the others.
Formerly Brahmsian, OrchestralNut and Franco_Manitobain

Cato

Quote from: brewski on May 06, 2023, 04:20:40 AMA few years ago, a bassist in the orchestra sent me a recording of one of those, the Eighth. Had never heard the Toledo group before, and was quite surprised—maybe I shouldn't have been—at how good it was.

-Bruce


I am betting that was our member ToledoBass, a.k.a. "Allan."   8)

I was there with my youngest son for that concert and it was marvelous to hear such an excellent performance live...in a cathedral!  Even my son, who does not praise anything or anybody very much at all, said "pretty good!"   8)
"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

brewski

Quote from: Cato on May 06, 2023, 03:33:07 PMI am betting that was our member ToledoBass, a.k.a. "Allan."   8)

I was there with my youngest son for that concert and it was marvelous to hear such an excellent performance live...in a cathedral!  Even my son, who does not praise anything or anybody very much at all, said "pretty good!"   8)

Yes. (Sorry, I momentarily forgot his username.) And good for you for bringing your son! Conventional wisdom might be something like "kids will never groove on Bruckner" but it sounds like this had an impact. Who knows, in 20 years, your son may say, "Dad, thanks for taking me to that awesome concert."

-Bruce
"I set down a beautiful chord on paper—and suddenly it rusts."
—Alfred Schnittke (1934-1998)

Cato

Quote from: vers la flamme on May 06, 2023, 01:12:43 PMFavorite recordings of the three masses? I do not know them nearly well enough.


Quote from: Franco_Manitobain on May 06, 2023, 01:44:15 PMHerreweghe for the F minor mass for me.

Jochum for the others.



Quote from: ultralinear on May 06, 2023, 02:33:46 PMJochum is a sound recommendation. There's not much wrong with the Best/Corydon set either.

Personal favourites:

   


Amen for Eugen Jochum (all 3 Masses) and Philippe Herreweghe.


Quote from: brewski on May 07, 2023, 07:23:34 AMYes. (Sorry, I momentarily forgot his username.) And good for you for bringing your son! Conventional wisdom might be something like "kids will never groove on Bruckner" but it sounds like this had an impact. Who knows, in 20 years, your son may say, "Dad, thanks for taking me to that awesome concert."

-Bruce


I look forward to that!   ;)

I do wonder occasionally what will happen to my scores and CD's, since none of my children are really interested. 

We do now have a grandson, 5 months old, so I am hoping that perhaps his ears are like mine...or can be persuaded to become like mine!   :o   8)

But, we live 1100 miles apart!  So, it will be hard to have much influence.
"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

LKB

Mit Flügeln, die ich mir errungen...

calyptorhynchus

Quote from: brewski on May 07, 2023, 07:23:34 AMYes. (Sorry, I momentarily forgot his username.) And good for you for bringing your son! Conventional wisdom might be something like "kids will never groove on Bruckner" but it sounds like this had an impact. Who knows, in 20 years, your son may say, "Dad, thanks for taking me to that awesome concert."

-Bruce

I bought my first Bruckner LP when I was 15 (and had heard all the symphonies by age 18)... that's why I always regard Bruckner as just a normal composer (though extraordinary of course).
'Many men are melancholy by hearing music, but it is a pleasing melancholy that it causeth.' Robert Burton

'...is it not strange that sheepes guts should hale soules out of mens bodies?' Benedick in Much Ado About Nothing

brewski

Quote from: calyptorhynchus on May 07, 2023, 05:47:10 PMI bought my first Bruckner LP when I was 15 (and had heard all the symphonies by age 18)... that's why I always regard Bruckner as just a normal composer (though extraordinary of course).

Wow. How lucky to experience them so early.

On a related note, for the Bruckner 9th on Friday afternoon (Yannick and Philadelphia), I noticed a group of school kids galloping upstairs, presumably a class trip. I would love to know their thoughts after the concert, even if 99% were indifferent.

-Bruce
"I set down a beautiful chord on paper—and suddenly it rusts."
—Alfred Schnittke (1934-1998)

lordlance

#3950
A Sixth for those always on the lookout for great new recordings:


A propulsive interpretation for those like me who dislike measured/leisurely Bruckner.
If you are interested in listening to orchestrations of solo/chamber music, you might be interested in this thread.
Also looking for recommendations on neglected conductors thread.

Daverz

Quote from: lordlance on May 08, 2023, 01:26:43 AMA Sixth for those always on the lookout for great new recordings:


A propulsive interpretation for those like me who dislike measured/leisurely Bruckner.

Says video unavailable.  What was it?

lordlance

Quote from: Daverz on May 08, 2023, 04:12:12 PMSays video unavailable.  What was it?

A live performance of the Sixth by Gielen conducting the ORF Radio Symphonieorchester Wien (1993)
If you are interested in listening to orchestrations of solo/chamber music, you might be interested in this thread.
Also looking for recommendations on neglected conductors thread.

Jo498

The Hänssler recording of the 6th with Gielen is also very good but I think his best Bruckner (I have not heard all of it, they dug out radio and live recordings for a complete box) are #5 and #7.
Tout le malheur des hommes vient d'une seule chose, qui est de ne savoir pas demeurer en repos, dans une chambre.
- Blaise Pascal

relm1

I thought this new Bruckner 4 release was excellent.  Doesn't displace my favorite but very riveting performance.


W.A. Mozart

What do you think about the symphony 1?


LKB

Quote from: brewskiquote author=brewski link=msg=1511678 date=1683511236]
Wow. How lucky to experience them so early.

On a related note, for the Bruckner 9th on Friday afternoon (Yannick and Philadelphia), I noticed a group of school kids galloping upstairs, presumably a class trip. I would love to know their thoughts after the concert, even if 99% were indifferent.

-Bruce

I hope at least one of them found it memorable.  8)
Mit Flügeln, die ich mir errungen...

brewski

Meanwhile, because I apparently can't get enough Bruckner this week, I stumbled across this terrific Eighth with the Euskadiko Orchestra (Basque National Orchestra) and conductor Robert Trevino, recorded last December. How have I not heard this group before?


-Bruce
"I set down a beautiful chord on paper—and suddenly it rusts."
—Alfred Schnittke (1934-1998)

Spotted Horses

Quote from: brewski on May 09, 2023, 09:41:23 AMMeanwhile, because I apparently can't get enough Bruckner this week, I stumbled across this terrific Eighth with the Euskadiko Orchestra (Basque National Orchestra) and conductor Robert Trevino, recorded last December. How have I not heard this group before?


-Bruce

The thought that occurs to me is, "why is there a colossal microphone 30 cm away from the violinist. Is she the recording engineer's daughter?

brewski

Quote from: Spotted Horses on May 09, 2023, 09:48:55 AMThe thought that occurs to me is, "why is there a colossal microphone 30 cm away from the violinist. Is she the recording engineer's daughter?

;D

Gotta make sure we hear that cadenza!

-Bruce
"I set down a beautiful chord on paper—and suddenly it rusts."
—Alfred Schnittke (1934-1998)