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71 dB

Quote from: Madiel on November 03, 2023, 03:44:40 AMThe cover art doesn't bother me. The cover words do.

I re-thought the cover art. Hopefully the words bother you less.

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Quote from: Madiel on November 03, 2023, 03:44:40 AMThe cover art doesn't bother me. The cover words do.

Well, the absurdity of the words matches the absurdity of the recordings. Why would anyone take the trouble to transcribe Bach's Cello Suites and Goldberg Variations for solo violin and perform them as such? I can think of only one answer: to show that it can be done --- but then again, not everything that can be done is worth doing.

There's still another possibility, now that I think of it. Mr. Jimenez could have of course chosen from the many works with which the genuine solo violin repertoire is blessed besides Bach's sonatas and partitas: Locatelli, Tartini, Paganini, Fiorillo, Kreutzer, Beriot, Ernst, Vieuxtemps, Sauret, Ysaye --- they have all composed marvelous pieces for solo violin. But of course they are not at all as respectable, important and interesting as Bach; there's much more prestige and it is a much more serious artistic accomplishment to play the Goldberg Variations on violin than to play Sauret's Etudes-Caprices for violin. Way to go, Mr. Jimenez! Please, give us as soon as possible the Well-Tempered Clavier too! And why not think even bigger and crown your career with Johannes-Passion transcribed for solo violin?
There is no theory. You have only to listen. Pleasure is the law. — Claude Debussy

pjme

Quote from: 71 dB on November 03, 2023, 04:32:42 AMI re-thought the cover art. Hopefully the words bother you less.
Ok, ok. Nice try, Pujo, but allow me to say it's a bit ... gallant, innocent....I don't have Photoshop or other digital equipment to transform the design, but Jimenez is an iconoclast and could/should/would inspire a tougher (crazier) visual effect. :P 

Jorge Jimenez loves to use his devilish eyes...nobody will deter him from his dangerous, extravagant, impermissible  >:D escapades! Brrrr...! >:D




Scion7

Quote from: pjme on November 03, 2023, 03:04:55 AMis it Dennis Yeats Wheatley (8 January 1897 – 10 November 1977)..... a writer of occult novels?
When, a few months before his death, Rachmaninov lamented that he no longer had the "strength and fire" to compose, friends reminded him of the Symphonic Dances, so charged with fire and strength. "Yes," he admitted. "I don't know how that happened. That was probably my last flicker."

JBS

Quote from: Florestan on November 03, 2023, 04:41:12 AMWell, the absurdity of the words matches the absurdity of the recordings. Why would anyone take the trouble to transcribe Bach's Cello Suites and Goldberg Variations for solo violin and perform them as such? I can think of only one answer: to show that it can be done --- but then again, not everything that can be done is worth doing.

There's still another possibility, now that I think of it. Mr. Jimenez could have of course chosen from the many works with which the genuine solo violin repertoire is blessed besides Bach's sonatas and partitas: Locatelli, Tartini, Paganini, Fiorillo, Kreutzer, Beriot, Ernst, Vieuxtemps, Sauret, Ysaye --- they have all composed marvelous pieces for solo violin. But of course they are not at all as respectable, important and interesting as Bach; there's much more prestige and it is a much more serious artistic accomplishment to play the Goldberg Variations on violin than to play Sauret's Etudes-Caprices for violin. Way to go, Mr. Jimenez! Please, give us as soon as possible the Well-Tempered Clavier too! And why not think even bigger and crown your career with Johannes-Passion transcribed for solo violin?

Well, there's lots of works for solo violin which are nice and pleasant but don't touch people's hearts the way Bach does.  And some of them aren't exactly underrecorded: I stopped counting the number of recordings of Ysaye's Opus 27 available from Presto when I got to twenty.

And he's not alone in doing the Cello Suites for violin.

She just released a version of the Goldbergs done as a Baroque ensemble work.
I haven't heard either.

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Scion7

Those transcriptions for the cello sonatas are from the mid-19th century - but that doesn't mean ol' Johann Sebastian would approve.  ;D  (or having the 'goat of Mendez' as an image on his music)
When, a few months before his death, Rachmaninov lamented that he no longer had the "strength and fire" to compose, friends reminded him of the Symphonic Dances, so charged with fire and strength. "Yes," he admitted. "I don't know how that happened. That was probably my last flicker."

Florestan

Quote from: JBS on November 03, 2023, 08:55:05 AMWell, there's lots of works for solo violin which are nice and pleasant but don't touch people's hearts the way Bach does.  And some of them aren't exactly underrecorded: I stopped counting the number of recordings of Ysaye's Opus 27 available from Presto when I got to twenty.

And he's not alone in doing the Cello Suites for violin.

She just released a version of the Goldbergs done as a Baroque ensemble work.
I haven't heard either.

My point, by which I stand, is that the genuine violin repertoire is large enough that one needs not resort to transcriptions of dubious value and interest --- but as I said before, why play something written for the violin by a non-German composer when one can play the Goldberg Variations on the violin and congratulate oneself for their superior taste and artistry?  ;D
There is no theory. You have only to listen. Pleasure is the law. — Claude Debussy

JBS

Quote from: Florestan on November 03, 2023, 09:14:27 AMMy point, by which I stand, is that the genuine violin repertoire is large enough that one needs not resort to transcriptions of dubious value and interest --- but as I said before, why play something written for the violin by a non-German composer when one can play the Goldberg Variations on the violin and congratulate oneself for their superior taste and artistry?   ;D

But suppose you're one of those people who find Sauret's Etudes-Caprices of dubious value and interest?

Să nu discutăm despre gusturi.

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JBS

Quote from: Scion7 on November 03, 2023, 09:00:16 AMThose transcriptions for the cello sonatas are from the mid-19th century - but that doesn't mean ol' Johann Sebastian would approve.  ;D  (or having the 'goat of Mendez' as an image on his music)

Given the attitude musicians of his era had towards transcriptions and adaptations, he probably would just shrug his shoulders about the transcriptions.

The cover art otoh...

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Florestan

Quote from: JBS on November 03, 2023, 09:52:07 AMBut suppose you're one of those people who find Sauret's Etudes-Caprices of dubious value and interest?

I am inclined to think that of those very few people who have actually listened to them fewer still find them of dubious value and interest, whereas many, if not most, Bach devotees would not go out of their way to listen to the Goldberg Variations transcribed for solo violin.

QuoteSă nu discutăm despre gusturi.

Preferi să discutăm despre culori?  :D

There is no theory. You have only to listen. Pleasure is the law. — Claude Debussy

Pohjolas Daughter

Quote from: Florestan on November 03, 2023, 10:03:29 AMI am inclined to think that of those very few people who have actually listened to them fewer still find them of dubious value and interest, whereas many, if not most, Bach devotees would not go out of their way to listen to the Goldberg Variations transcribed for solo violin.

Preferi să discutăm despre culori?  :D


You, and others here, might want to first watch this before deciding things.  It also looks like he posted various tracks from it too (Goldberg V.).  Note:  he also did this whole video by himself during a Covid lockdown in the UK.

  There is also at least one about his transcription of the cello pieces (look around a bit).

PD
Pohjolas Daughter

Madiel

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Quote from: 71 dB on November 03, 2023, 04:32:42 AMI re-thought the cover art. Hopefully the words bother you less.

bach.jpg

No. Still just as bothered.

For some musicians, it seems that being in possession of a hammer makes them see everything as a nail.
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Pohjolas Daughter

Quote from: Madiel on November 03, 2023, 01:30:29 PMNo. Still just as bothered.

For some musicians, it seems that being in possession of a hammer makes them see everything as a nail.
Perhaps they really love the works and want to be able to play them?  And are willing to spend a lot of time and effort to try and adapt them for the instrument that they can play?  Maybe just try and give them a listen before judging?   :)

PD
Pohjolas Daughter

Madiel

#4693
Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on November 03, 2023, 01:46:15 PMPerhaps they really love the works and want to be able to play them?  And are willing to spend a lot of time and effort to try and adapt them for the instrument that they can play?  Maybe just try and give them a listen before judging?   :)

PD

As discussed elsewhere, I'm a pianist but it never occurs to me to want to be able to play the string quartets I love. I'm not that self-centred.

And we're talking about commercially released recordings. Why the hell do I need to spend time listening to a version of the cello suites that's not on a cello given the sheer number of options for listening to it on a cello? That's like suggesting that, when trying to choose an ice skate, that I shouldn't discount going ice skating in flippers until I've tried it.

Well, I'm sure it's possible to eventually work out how to ice skate in flippers, but why would I decide to throw away all the previous effort that went into working out that blades were a good choice?

A composer's decisions about the combination of music and instrument are not random. I wish more people would respect those decisions.
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Florestan

#4694


One way to read it is thus:

Beetho Venham Merkla

Vier-So (ie, Four-So in German)

Nate Afa

Nassiev

that is, the first line is the name of the composer, the second line is the name of the work, the third line is the name of the conductor and the last line is the name of the ensemble.  ;D
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Madiel

Quote from: Florestan on November 03, 2023, 11:09:49 PM

One way to read it is thus:

Beetho Venham Merkla

Vier-So (ie, Four-So in German)

Nate Afa

Nassiev

that is, the first line is the name of the composer, the second line is the name of the work, the third line is the name of the conductor and the last line is the name of the ensemble.  ;D

Yes I saw that one, was it the New Releases thread? Hopeless. It genuinely took a moment to work out what music was on the album.
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71 dB

Quote from: pjme on November 03, 2023, 05:27:56 AMOk, ok. Nice try, Pujo, but allow me to say it's a bit ... gallant, innocent....I don't have Photoshop or other digital equipment to transform the design, but Jimenez is an iconoclast and could/should/would inspire a tougher (crazier) visual effect. :P

Jorge Jimenez loves to use his devilish eyes...nobody will deter him from his dangerous, extravagant, impermissible  >:D escapades! Brrrr...! >:D





Okay. I didn't know this violin player. Based on your feedback, I re-designed/re-thought the cover art again hopefully reflecting better the personality of this artist:

bach2.jpg
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Florestan

I wonder if there is a recording of the violin sonatas and partitas played on the cello.
There is no theory. You have only to listen. Pleasure is the law. — Claude Debussy