David Hurwitz

[Madiel]

The main reason he says that his opinions are his is to stop people arguing with him in the comments in fruitless ways. Yes, it's his list, his opinion.

It's not a message board.

[71 dB]

Exactly. It's a weakness which pairs abysmally well with the blowhard's "This is my opinion, and it's important because it's mine."

I don't think DH actually claims his opinions are important to anyone else than himself. He is talented in expressing his opinions and he does it in a loud, colourful and extroverted manner, which is entertaining or annoying depending on the personality of the listener. He actually knows what he is talking about most of the time. Sometimes I disagree with him*, but that doesn't mean HE is wrong. I don't know that much (remember, I am the idiot who thinks Dittersdorf's music is any good!) and sometimes my taste just is different. I think DH believes his opinions can be educational and helpful to those who don't know everything. Some of the stuff he says is clearly to be taken ironically or as joking. He talks openly about having been wrong about something in the past. He is clearly ready to change his mind.

I believe you like/appreciate DH more than you are willing to admit to yourself Karl. If you genuinely thought what you say, you wouldn't be writing on this thread as much as you do, would you? You are processing your internal struggles and trying to get your feelings straight. That's okay. We all have internal struggles. I have done it countless of times myself for sure. 

* I disagreed with him about Taneyev. He doesn't care about Taneyev while I do. I commented to his video on Youtube:

"Does music need to scream the name of its creator? I think the only downside of not having a distinctive own style is that the music is easily overlooked/ignored as in the case of Taneyev."

He replied:

"In short, yes. Music does need to scream the need of its creator. That's why no one especially cares about Taneyev. A pity, but it's true. A distinctive voice is one of the hallmarks of greatness."

[Florestan]

I disagreed with him about Taneyev. He doesn't care about Taneyev while I do. I commented to his video on Youtube:

"Does music need to scream the name of its creator? I think the only downside of not having a distinctive own style is that the music is easily overlooked/ignored as in the case of Taneyev."

He replied:

"In short, yes. Music does need to scream the need of its creator. That's why no one especially cares about Taneyev. A pity, but it's true. A distinctive voice is one of the hallmarks of greatness."

He uses sophistry here. First, he says "music" without any qualifications. Then he moves the goalpost to "greatness". And he's being hypocritical in the process with that "A pity". Besides, in short, no, it's not true. There are professional musicians out there who care enough about Taneyev to record his complete chamber music, his complete symphonies and his complete songs.

Imo, it's not that much in his videos, but in his replies to the comments people make on them, that Hurwitz more often than not comes out as an insufferable prick.

Btw, count me as an idiot too, I like Dittersdorf's music as well. 

[71 dB]

He uses sophistry here. First, he says "music" without any qualifications. Then he moves the goalpost to "greatness". And he's being hypocritical in the process with that "A pity". Besides, in short, no, it's not true. There are professional musicians out there who care enough about Taneyev to record his complete chamber music, his complete symphonies and his complete songs.

You don't need to tell me he is wrong here.

Imo, it's not that much in his videos, but in his replies to the comments people make on them, that Hurwitz more often than not comes out as an insufferable prick.

Maybe it is a good idea to not comment on his videos and just watch them then?

Btw, count me as an idiot too, I like Dittersdorf's music as well. 

Cool, very cool!

[Florestan]

Maybe it is a good idea to not comment on his videos and just watch them then?

Indeed. Once you know that he invariably scoffs at any comment which disagrees with him, why commenting again?

[DavidW]

I'm beginning to think that we should have two Hurwitz threads.  The constant debate sours the thread for those that just want to talk about his latest content.

[Mookalafalas]

I'm beginning to think that we should have two Hurwitz threads.  The constant debate sours the thread for those that just want to talk about his latest content.

You, sir, deserve a blue ribbon for unadulterated optimism

[Madiel]

I'm beginning to think that we should have two Hurwitz threads.  The constant debate sours the thread for those that just want to talk about his latest content.

The thread was not set up to discuss content. It was set up to be nasty about Hurwitz. It's no surprise people have followed through on that.

[Karl Henning]

Indeed. Once you know that he invariably scoffs at any comment which disagrees with him, why commenting again?

One of the things which make him so admirable.  😎

[DavidW]

The thread was not set up to discuss content. It was set up to be nasty about Hurwitz. It's no surprise people have followed through on that.

Yes you're right.  The new thread should be about Hurwitz content and the original can carry on with the nastiness!

[Florestan]

The new thread should be about Hurwitz content and the original can carry on with the nastiness!

The dichotomy I suggested above goes exactly in this direction. I don't share at all the unqualified, nasty dismissal of his videos but neither do I fail to notice that he shows his own nastiness in the way he treats dissenting opinions.

[Karl Henning]

The dichotomy I suggested above goes exactly in this direction. I don't share at all the unqualified, nasty dismissal of his videos but neither do I fail to notice that he shows his own nastiness in the way he treats dissenting opinions.

And perhaps we now see a suggestion that there should be no dissent in this thread. Call this half- or one-third-kidding.

[Brian]

Dude's uploaded like 8 videos in the last 36 hours. Doesn't he know you can save 'em all up, schedule 1 a day, and take a nice long vacation?? 

[Pohjolas Daughter]

Dude's uploaded like 8 videos in the last 36 hours. Doesn't he know you can save 'em all up, schedule 1 a day, and take a nice long vacation?? 

Is he doing ones like favorite CDs released in 2023?

PD

[Brian]

Is he doing ones like favorite CDs released in 2023?

PD

I think he saves that for right around Christmas/New Year's.

The last two days...
Review - new Dvorak piano trios set
Review - DG Kubelik big box
Random Reviews of Richard Strauss
Rant about Vanska's second Sibelius cycle
Bach's Most Embarrassing Work
Haydn Symphony Crusade, No. 52

[DavidW]

Dude's uploaded like 8 videos in the last 36 hours. Doesn't he know you can save 'em all up, schedule 1 a day, and take a nice long vacation?? 

Alot of youtubers do that so they can take Christmas off!

[Karl Henning]

Alot of youtubers do that so they can Christmas off!

This is officially the first I've seen Christmas verbed! Just noting, not criticizing.

[Brian]

This is officially the first I've seen Christmas verbed! Just noting, not criticizing.

Unrelated, but I recently got an email saying "What is your address? We have a gifting for you" and it made me want to scream. We're not giving gifts anymore...we're gifting giftings.

[DavidW]

This is officially the first I've seen Christmas verbed! Just noting, not criticizing.

oops take Christmas off!  I better revise that post before it ends up on Cato's thread!

[Karl Henning]

oops take Christmas off!  I better revise that post before it ends up on Cato's thread!

(* chortle *)