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Karl Henning

Quote from: Mookalafalas on January 10, 2024, 02:32:22 PMI'm afraid I know nothing about either one (director or artist). I'll try to keep an eye out, but am doubtful I'll run across it. Even so, thanks for the head's up.

  {found 9 min 35 sec "preview" on Youtube}
Nissman is a pianist. You may enjoy her recording of Ginastera's pf concerti.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Brian

Quote from: Mookalafalas on January 10, 2024, 02:38:00 PMI just nabbed a bunch of his stuff on NAXOS. Very unfairly, I had always discounted NAXOS as a bargain-basement label. I can't believe the sound quality of these recordings. And flawless playing by the Detroit Symphony. I turnd up my nose at these disks (with an American Flag on them! Oh, come on...), but WOW. Here's an example (I'm playing it now with my morning coffee).
That Naxos cycle of the Rachmaninov symphonies is one of the best ever!

I am definitely saving up for a Slatkin RCA big box set. It should be nice and juicy and full of unusual repertoire.

Pohjolas Daughter

Quote from: Atriod on January 10, 2024, 02:17:49 PMConsider me unfamiliar  :D  Years of listening to Karl Richter wading through molasses had me sworn off older style performances. This is music I'm always regularly listening to



(larger size) edit: forgot about Ton Koopman that is not pictured!

And Gil Zilkha is Brahmsianhorn on Talk Classical where his posts are a bit more in depth than the videos.
I have a number of those Gardiner ones and enjoy them.  :) Think that the only Bach recording that I have with Harnoncourt is one of his masses?

PD

Mookalafalas

Quote from: Brian on January 11, 2024, 05:37:55 AMThat Naxos cycle of the Rachmaninov symphonies is one of the best ever!

I am definitely saving up for a Slatkin RCA big box set. It should be nice and juicy and full of unusual repertoire.

   I just saw another Hurwitz video where he lists Bernard Schwarz Naxos box as one of his "all time" favorites, and a must have. THAT was unexpected. I think Schwarz probably outdoes even Slatkin in covering a lot of "off the beaten path" repertoire.
It's all good...

Daverz

Quote from: Mookalafalas on January 11, 2024, 06:43:17 AMI just saw another Hurwitz video where he lists Bernard Schwarz Naxos box as one of his "all time" favorites, and a must have. THAT was unexpected. I think Schwarz probably outdoes even Slatkin in covering a lot of "off the beaten path" repertoire.


Mookalafalas

Quote from: Daverz on January 11, 2024, 07:05:22 AM

Yep, that's the one ;D
   And I think Schwarz has literally 100 more disks that aren't in that box...
It's all good...

Karl Henning

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Quote from: Daverz on January 11, 2024, 07:05:22 AM
OTTOMH, symphonies and divers orchestral works of Wm Schuman, and symphonies of Hovhaness.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

DavidW

Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on January 11, 2024, 06:10:12 AMI have a number of those Gardiner ones and enjoy them.  :) Think that the only Bach recording that I have with Harnoncourt is one of his masses?

PD

Harnoncourt recorded the cantatas with Leonhardt, which I believe is in that big teldec set.  And in the other big set in the picture is the Rilling set.  I think they're both considered proto-HIP as they stand out from traditional performances but are not in the same sound space as the modern sets (Suzuki, Koopman, Gardiner etc)

Both Harnoncourt and Leonhardt have a great affinity for Bach.  In particular, Leonhardt's solo keyboard recordings are phenomenal.

Karl Henning

Quote from: Karl Henning on January 11, 2024, 07:46:31 AMOTTOMH, symphonies and divers orchestral works of Wm Schuman, and smphonies of Hovhaness.
It predated Naxos, but my first impression of Schwarz was unfavorable: a recording with Seattle chamber players of the Brandenburgs. At this remove in time, I think I recall that my sense was "competent but little more," and that of course I wanted better in those concerti.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Pohjolas Daughter

Quote from: DavidW on January 11, 2024, 07:56:57 AMHarnoncourt recorded the cantatas with Leonhardt, which I believe is in that big teldec set.  And in the other big set in the picture is the Rilling set.  I think they're both considered proto-HIP as they stand out from traditional performances but are not in the same sound space as the modern sets (Suzuki, Koopman, Gardiner etc)

Both Harnoncourt and Leonhardt have a great affinity for Bach.  In particular, Leonhardt's solo keyboard recordings are phenomenal.
I'll check some of those out.  By the way, I goofed!  The mass that I was thinking of was with Herreweghe--the Matthew one.  I do have the complete set with Richter (love so many of those singers in those recordings; it's been a while though since I have listened to them.  Still have a soft spot for them though.  :)  I've also heard some of the Suzuki recordings (over the radio) but never felt like I HAD to go out and purchase any of them--perhaps my mood at the time?  Been quite some time since I have revisited his cantatas; I should rectify that soon.

Oh!  Another favorite recording of mine of "Ich habe genug" is with Gérard Souzay.  ;D Have you ever heard that one David?

PD

DavidW

Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on January 11, 2024, 09:08:01 AMOh!  Another favorite recording of mine of "Ich habe genug" is with Gérard Souzay.  ;D Have you ever heard that one David?

PD

Oh no, I'll have to check it out!

Atriod

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Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on January 11, 2024, 06:10:12 AMI have a number of those Gardiner ones and enjoy them.  :) Think that the only Bach recording that I have with Harnoncourt is one of his masses?

PD

Gardiner's Archiv recordings were the first ones that made me fall in love with the music. The live SDG cycle performances are for the most part highly enjoyable as well, a bit too brisk in some cantatas for my taste. My favorites are Suzuki for his spirituality and Herreweghe for an infectious warmth and tenderness.

Atriod

#1152
Quote from: DavidW on January 11, 2024, 07:56:57 AMHarnoncourt recorded the cantatas with Leonhardt, which I believe is in that big teldec set.  And in the other big set in the picture is the Rilling set.  I think they're both considered proto-HIP as they stand out from traditional performances but are not in the same sound space as the modern sets (Suzuki, Koopman, Gardiner etc)

Both Harnoncourt and Leonhardt have a great affinity for Bach.  In particular, Leonhardt's solo keyboard recordings are phenomenal.

Harnoncourt/Leonhardt is fully HIP. It is also the only cycle to use boy sopranos. Hurwitz loves the Rilling cycle but it's a bit academic and dry.

Mookalafalas

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Quote from: Karl Henning on January 11, 2024, 08:21:38 AMIt predated Naxos, but my first impression of Schwarz was unfavorable: a recording with Seattle chamber players of the Brandenburgs. At this remove in time, I think I recall that my sense was "competent but little more," and that of course I wanted better in those concerti.

  I know he does a lot of David Diamond, William Schuman, David Piston, etc., in the American repertoire. He was on my radar back when I listened to the Mercury Living Presence boxes, because he was basically the only guy out there covering those gouys, and I wanted to hear more. I never got any though, because I'm sort of allergic to paying full price for single disks, even Naxos-priced. However, I'm definitely going to get that 30 disk box. Like immediately.
    About your evaluation, that is what I'd imagine, i.e. that he does a fine job and has a pretty good orchestra, but that's all. I think Hurwitz suggested that he is somewhat better than that, but he didn't claim (as he did with Slatkin in St. Louis) that he had fantastic orchestra.

 Edit:  looked at the contents of the Schwarz box, and it has more "standard" material than I had hoped--including the Brandenbergs... :-(
It's all good...

Karl Henning

Quote from: Mookalafalas on January 11, 2024, 02:53:56 PMdit:  looked at the contents of the Schwarz box, and it has more "standard" material than I had hoped--including the Brandenbergs... :-(
a 30-disc Schwarz box of off-the-beaten-path rep, esp. Diamond, Piston, Schuman ... that would be choice!
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Mookalafalas

Quote from: Karl Henning on January 11, 2024, 05:37:46 PMa 30-disc Schwarz box of off-the-beaten-path rep, esp. Diamond, Piston, Schuman ... that would be choice!

 It seems to be striving to cut a broad cross-section across his repertoire. For example, it has 1 Bach Brandenburg suite.
  Here is a sample:
 CD 8 :
Brahms: Piano Quartet No. 1 in G minor, Op. 25
Schubert: Symphony No. 3 in D major, D200

CD 9 :
Carter, E: The Minotaur
Fine, I G: Notturno for Strings
Barber: Serenade for String Orchestra, Op. 1
Carter, E: Elegy
Carter, E: Canon for 3 - In memoriam Igor Stravinsky

CD 10 :
Diamond: Rounds for String Orchestra
Albert, S: Flower of the Mountain
Perle: Serenade No. 3 for Piano and Chamber Orchestra
Perle: Piano Concertino
Dlugoszewski: Space is a Diamond
Whittenberg: Polyphony
Wolpe: Solo Piece for Trumpet

CD 11 :
Herbert, V: Suite for Cello & Orchestra, Op. 3
Herbert, V: 3 Compositions for String Orchestra
Herbert, V: Serenade, Op. 12
Jones, Samuel: Tuba Concerto

CD 12 :
Panufnik, A: Symphony No. 10
Panufnik, A: Autumn Music
Panufnik, A: Heroic Overture
Panufnik, A: Symphony No. 3 'Sinfonia sacra'

CD 13 :
Schreker: Kammersymphonie
Hindemith: Kammermusik No. 1 Op. 24 No. 1 für 12 Solo-Instrumente
Busoni: Concertino for Clarinet and Small Orchestra, Op. 48
Honegger: Concerto da camera for Flute, Cor Anglais & String Orchestra

CD 14 :
Strauss, R: Le Bourgeois Gentilhomme, Op. 60

CD 15 :
Bernstein: Symphony No. 3 'Kaddish'
Taylor, J D: Peter Ibbetson, Op. 20 (Highlights)

  I'm looking at the guy's discography, and its insane. Over a hundred disks on Naxos, but then tons on Delos. I'm sampling, and it's very solid, and generally really good sound. And stuff I wouldn't have expected. How about Haydn and Hummel trumpet concertos---with Schwarz as soloist?! (He's got nice tone, but his chops aren't quite top tier, IMO.) He has a lot of war horses, and then living American women composers I've never heard of. I'm listening to his LvB Pastorale right now--and it's no slouch. I think he's my new hero ;D
It's all good...

Jo498

Delos was apparently quite active in the 90s (the tail end of the CD boom) and Schwarz their main conductor.
Tout le malheur des hommes vient d'une seule chose, qui est de ne savoir pas demeurer en repos, dans une chambre.
- Blaise Pascal

Mookalafalas

Quote from: Jo498 on January 12, 2024, 01:28:47 AMDelos was apparently quite active in the 90s (the tail end of the CD boom) and Schwarz their main conductor.

 According to one of his web-sites, he has recorded 350 disks!
     I started reading his autobiography. I hadn't realized he'd been lead trumpet in New York, under Boulez, Bernstein, and Lensdorf--while still very young.
It's all good...

Pohjolas Daughter

Quote from: Mookalafalas on January 12, 2024, 05:29:46 AMAccording to one of his web-sites, he has recorded 350 disks!
     I started reading his autobiography. I hadn't realized he'd been lead trumpet in New York, under Boulez, Bernstein, and Lensdorf--while still very young.
Quite interesting!

And, wow!  Yes, that's a lot of recordings!

PD

ando

Quote from: Mookalafalas on December 16, 2023, 09:30:07 PMIf you don't agree with him much, doesn't he drive you nuts?

No. Why would you allow anyone to drive you nuts? I find him spot on (and entertaining) most of the time, in any event; especially his latest rant:


"There's no demand for Bruchner. I guarantee you. There isn't. And everyone's doing it anyway..."  :laugh:

He obviously hasn't visited this site.  ;D