The British Composers Thread

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Pohjolas Daughter

Quote from: Irons on March 17, 2024, 01:40:37 AMI admire your honesty as rather then being amused I'm slightly embarrassed by my love of English music. I would be mortified if thought by others of xenophobic tendencies. To be an expat must make the appreciation that much greater. I was told a story of a Brit living abroad driving when some English music came over his car radio. Sobbing with tears rolling down his face he was forced to pull over!
Now I will have to see if I can come up with 23. ;)    
@calyptorhynchus and @Irons

23?!  Uh, oh...I'm sunk!  :-[


Daverz



Richard Rodney Bennett: Piano Concerto, from the complete Kovacevich on Philips box.

According to Wikipedia:

"Sir Richard Rodney Bennett CBE (29 March 1936 – 24 December 2012) was an English composer of film, TV and concert music, and also a jazz pianist and vocalist. He was based in New York City from 1979 until his death there in 2012.
[...]
He later studied at the Royal Academy of Music with Howard Ferguson and Lennox Berkeley. Ferguson regarded him as extraordinarily brilliant, having perhaps the greatest talent of any British composer in his generation, though lacking in a personal style. During this time, Bennett attended some of the Darmstadt summer courses in 1955, where he was exposed to serialism. He later spent two years in Paris as a student of the prominent serialist Pierre Boulez between 1957 and 1959."

I sampled some of the Bennett releases on Chandos, but just could not connect with his rather Bergian music at the time.  I had more success with this recording of the Piano Concerto played brilliantly by Kovacevich, perhaps because I knew what to expect.  I suppose this is the same as the recording on Lyrita; I can't imagine Kovacevich recording this twice.


 

vandermolen

Quote from: Daverz on April 08, 2024, 01:55:53 PM

Richard Rodney Bennett: Piano Concerto, from the complete Kovacevich on Philips box.

According to Wikipedia:

"Sir Richard Rodney Bennett CBE (29 March 1936 – 24 December 2012) was an English composer of film, TV and concert music, and also a jazz pianist and vocalist. He was based in New York City from 1979 until his death there in 2012.
[...]
He later studied at the Royal Academy of Music with Howard Ferguson and Lennox Berkeley. Ferguson regarded him as extraordinarily brilliant, having perhaps the greatest talent of any British composer in his generation, though lacking in a personal style. During this time, Bennett attended some of the Darmstadt summer courses in 1955, where he was exposed to serialism. He later spent two years in Paris as a student of the prominent serialist Pierre Boulez between 1957 and 1959."

I sampled some of the Bennett releases on Chandos, but just could not connect with his rather Bergian music at the time.  I had more success with this recording of the Piano Concerto played brilliantly by Kovacevich, perhaps because I knew what to expect.  I suppose this is the same as the recording on Lyrita; I can't imagine Kovacevich recording this twice.


 
I had that LP! Great nostalgia trip  :)
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Roasted Swan

#1463
If it weren't for the efforts of Dutton the music of Montague Phillips would be all but forgotten.  The three discs on that label represent pretty much the only/all of his available music.

He is one of those composers who aspired to being a great and serious writer yet who greatest "hit" was in the the world of lighter music.  In Phillips' case with an operetta in the 20's called "The Rebel Maid" which is quite nice but more Edward German than George Gershwin (given the year).  But this is the same dilemma that afflicted the likes of John Foulds (or Haydn Wood?) but Foulds seemed to find a degree(?) of reconcillation between writing commercial/light music and his big serious works.  Phillips' music is really attractive but does fall between the two stools of light and serious.  So too "big"/tricky for your average end of the pier orchestra but too "light" for proper orchestras and conductors to programme.  He also lacks the melodic memorability of a Coates or Ketelbey but the orchestration is lovely and the harmony rich and romantic.

Certainly on the evidence of these Dutton discs (his music appears nowhere on the Hyperion or Marco Polo/Naxos British Light Music Series) he deserves a hearing and is tremendously well played by the reliable BBC Concert Orchestra.  There is one rather fine/bigger score that does not appear on these discs -Suite "The World in the Open Air" for orchestra which I have the sheet music for in my orchestral parts library but never heard "live".  Anyone who enjoys British/20th century light(er) music should certainly give him a listen.  Checking out his Proms appearances is quite salutory - really quite a few performances up until the mid 1920's (back in the day when Proms Programmes were a pot-pourri of songs and orchestral and noveliteis....) but pretty much nothing since.


calyptorhynchus

Just heard that Andrew Davis has died. Great champion of British music...
'Many men are melancholy by hearing music, but it is a pleasing melancholy that it causeth.' Robert Burton

vandermolen

Quote from: calyptorhynchus on April 22, 2024, 01:19:08 AMJust heard that Andrew Davis has died. Great champion of British music...
As seen here:
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

calyptorhynchus

My St George's Day listening so far:

The Lark Ascending
Robert Simpson SQ12 and String Quintet 1

I think I'll go Elizabethan/Jacobean this afternoon with Byrd and Dowland.
'Many men are melancholy by hearing music, but it is a pleasing melancholy that it causeth.' Robert Burton

Luke

No better St George's Day listening for me, in England, in April, than the overwhelming masterpiece that is April-England, by John Foulds. A piece that gets to the heart of things, one that is always a treat to hear.

Roasted Swan

Quote from: Luke on April 23, 2024, 01:45:12 AMNo better St George's Day listening for me, in England, in April, than the overwhelming masterpiece that is April-England, by John Foulds. A piece that gets to the heart of things, one that is always a treat to hear.

Completely agree - genuinely remarkable, occupying a similar landscape - literal and emotional to Bridge's equally masterful Enter Spring.

calyptorhynchus

I finished the day with Brian's English Suite No.5 and some of Tye's consorts played on recorders.

But I must listen to the Foulds.
'Many men are melancholy by hearing music, but it is a pleasing melancholy that it causeth.' Robert Burton

Luke

To be listened to (loud) whilst bowling along through a sunny, verdant swathe of springtime English countryside. There's an alchemical brilliance about the piece: April (fanfares) + England (folksong style melody) = the stunning, mystical build-up over a ground bass in the central section, which represents growth, fertility, life, burgeoning etc. Ecstatic stuff.

Big David

This is a fascinating thread.  I listen to a lot of British music and there's stuff here I've not heard of.  I shall explore a lot of these works.

Today I listened to the Piano Concerto and Symphony no. 3 by John Joubert.  The pianist is Martin Jones, with the BBC NOW con. William Boughton.

calyptorhynchus

Another new discovery.



Eleanor Alberga was born in Jamaica, but lives in the UK. These string quartets are excellent.

There is also a Lyrita disc with her Violin Concertos, which I haven't heard yet, and a new disk with her Symphony is coming out later in May.

And her Piano Concerto is being broadcast on BBC Radio 3 on Tuesday evening UK time.
'Many men are melancholy by hearing music, but it is a pleasing melancholy that it causeth.' Robert Burton

calyptorhynchus

And here is the link to Eleanor Alberga's Piano Concerto (world premiere)

https://mega.nz/file/3eZTHQhb#UMVSiKLYWGZCGSlW6h7nv7Ip5i8GLsUtfYwQtG7syas

Broadcast Tuesday 14 May 2024, BBC Radio 3
Alim Beisembayev, piano
Royal Liverpool Philharmonic Orchestra
Domingo Hindoyan, conductor

There are four movements: Love - Play - Beauty - Excitement

 :)
'Many men are melancholy by hearing music, but it is a pleasing melancholy that it causeth.' Robert Burton

Roy Bland


Roasted Swan

#1475
Out walking the dogs in the Somerset sunshine accompanied by this recording;



A classic Lyrita disc encapsulating all that they did so right - wonderful music, performed with feeling and insight in superb sound.  Every piece a gem in its own right but perhaps I was especially in the mood for Howells' great Elegy (1917) for viola (Herbert Downes), string quartet (Desmond Bradley, Gillian Eastwood, Albert Cayzer & Norman Jones) and strings (New Philharmonia Orchestra) conducted by Boult.

Perhaps the date of composition here tells a story - there is a pastoral grief and pain that prefigures RVW's 3rd Symphony,  The other thing that struck me was how wonderful to hear this music played by a genuinely symphonic body of strings.  In recent years we have benefitted greatly from many recordings of rare/forgotten music by many composers of different nationalities but it does strike me that often string music is being recorded by chamber orchestra (or smaller) sized string groups.  The standard of the playing is almost universally high but no amount of technical skill or engineering wizardry can replace a large string group and the sheer mass of sound they can generate.

calyptorhynchus

I missed this, but earlier this month Bis released a disk of John Pickard's works, including his Symphonies No.2 and the new No.6  :)
'Many men are melancholy by hearing music, but it is a pleasing melancholy that it causeth.' Robert Burton

foxandpeng

Quote from: calyptorhynchus on May 26, 2024, 12:02:59 AMI missed this, but earlier this month Bis released a disk of John Pickard's works, including his Symphonies No.2 and the new No.6  :)

I heard this for the first time on Friday and was very impressed.
"A quiet secluded life in the country, with the possibility of being useful to people ... then work which one hopes may be of some use; then rest, nature, books, music, love for one's neighbour — such is my idea of happiness"

Tolstoy

calyptorhynchus

Quote from: foxandpeng on May 26, 2024, 12:29:43 PMI heard this for the first time on Friday and was very impressed.

+1
'Many men are melancholy by hearing music, but it is a pleasing melancholy that it causeth.' Robert Burton

Roasted Swan

Voice-averse members look away now..........  I've been having a first listen this morning to this new Lyrita disc;



Albion was singing (pardon the pun) the praises of Stanford's Te Deum when this recording was announced some time back.  It really is rather spectacular!  Yes - it does epitomise the confidence/pomp of the late Victorian certainties but it does it very well.  Actually rather operatic/dramatic in an Italian (Verdi Requiem??) kind of way.  Of course because its Lyrita its very well recorded - lovely deep organ pedals etc - and well performed.  Excellent choir and good soloists even if the soprano is a bit squally but I like the way she attacks the part.  The Whitman setting - the Elegiac Ode - is an impressive filler too.  For me more of an all round success as a piece than the Stabat Mater or Requiem.  Anyone else heard this yet?