Are you going to watch Biden-Trump debate Thursday?

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Are you going to watch Biden-Trump debate Thursday? Started by Dry Brett Kavanaugh, Today at 04:09:22 PM

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Dry Brett Kavanaugh

Me, most likely.

DavidW

Yes, I hate being back in this place again of watching Biden and Trump debate, but here we are and it is important.

brewski

Yes, definitely watching (with thoughts similar to David's), though frankly, I prefer "debate" in quotation marks.

-Bruce
"I set down a beautiful chord on paper—and suddenly it rusts."
—Alfred Schnittke (1934-1998)

VonStupp

No. I know exactly where each candidate stands.

Both have been president, so I don't expect anything more or less from either of them for the next presidential cycle. I really don't believe a debate is necessary between these two, other than mere spectacle.
VS
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Dry Brett Kavanaugh

Quote from: VonStupp on June 24, 2024, 02:18:42 PMNo. I know exactly where each candidate stands.

Both have been president, so I don't expect anything more or less from either of them for the next presidential cycle. I really don't believe a debate is necessary between these two, other than mere spectacle.
VS


Very good (and rational) opinion.

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

atardecer

"Politics is the entertainment division of the military industrial complex." - Frank Zappa

"Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people." - Theodore Roosevelt

I suspect these two statements to be true therefore I think my answer is 'Not Sure', which also happens to be the name of a character in the movie Idiocracy, something that seems somehow relevant here.
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Holden

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Spotted Horses

Quote from: VonStupp on June 24, 2024, 02:18:42 PMNo. I know exactly where each candidate stands.

Both have been president, so I don't expect anything more or less from either of them for the next presidential cycle. I really don't believe a debate is necessary between these two, other than mere spectacle.
VS

The dismal state of affairs is that both candidates claim that the other suffers dementia. The debate will at least give each candidate a chance to prove he is not senile. I doubt I would watch even if I could (I can't). I will have to be satisfied with the tabulation of gaffs that will appear the next morning.

AnotherSpin

In this puppet theatre, the real contest is between the remnants of the concept of the free world and the new powerful global force of autocracy. The problem is that one "candidate" is too weak and the other too convoluted. The winners of the US election may well already be known, they are Xi and his vassal Pu.

Florestan

#10
Quote from: Spotted Horses on June 24, 2024, 11:40:05 PMThe dismal state of affairs is that both candidates claim that the other suffers dementia.

Yes but so far only one of them has publicly displayed behavior and talk which might be seen as symptoms of senility. Honestly, I am absolutely shocked that the party of Kennedy, Clinton and Obama could not come up with a younger and healthier alternative.
"Ja, sehr komisch, hahaha,
ist die Sache, hahaha,
drum verzeihn Sie, hahaha,
wenn ich lache, hahaha! "

steve ridgway


Karl Henning

Quote from: steve ridgway on June 25, 2024, 05:22:46 AMIs anyone in America undecided?
As the Mid-terms showed, there really is a Middle of the electorate which will determine the outcome. They paid attention to the January 6 hearings, and to the results of the Convicted Felon's several trials, so I expect they will mark the debate, as well. Oh, and the consistently significant "Anyone but Trump, please" protest vote in the Republican primaries, even well after all of the non-diapered opponents had officially ended their campaigns.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Quote from: Florestan on June 25, 2024, 04:45:55 AMHonestly, I am absolutely shocked that the party of Kennedy, Clinton and Obama could not come up with a younger and healthier alternative.
The choice between two old white dudes is scarcely the ideal, but I think that Biden's experience and concomitant talent for getting things done has been the major factor. There is younger talent in the Party, but as yet none of the "youngsters" has had any knack for appealing to the aforementioned Middle. Hopefully they will learn, sooner rather than later.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

VonStupp

Quote from: Spotted Horses on June 24, 2024, 11:40:05 PMI doubt I would watch even if I could (I can't). I will have to be satisfied with the tabulation of gaffs that will appear the next morning.

Aye; I fear it will be unavoidable.
VS
All the good music has already been written by people with wigs and stuff. - Frank Zappa

My Musical Musings

steve ridgway

Quote from: Karl Henning on June 25, 2024, 05:53:16 AMAs the Mid-terms showed, there really is a Middle of the electorate which will determine the outcome. They paid attention to the January 6 hearings, and to the results of the Convicted Felon's several trials, so I expect they will mark the debate, as well. Oh, and the consistently significant "Anyone but Trump, please" protest vote in the Republican primaries, even well after all of the non-diapered opponents had officially ended their campaigns.

Oh that's good, it seemed odd to have a country divided so evenly that the result could be disputed.

Brian

No. I am a decided voter and won't learn anything. Certainly will not learn anything that outweighs the irritation and stress of having to watch them. Basically, what VonStupp says.

Quote from: Florestan on June 25, 2024, 04:45:55 AMYes but so far only one of them has publicly displayed behavior and talk which might be seen as symptoms of senility. Honestly, I am absolutely shocked that the party of Kennedy, Clinton and Obama could not come up with a younger and healthier alternative.

See, in the first sentence, I thought you were talking about the other one.

Spotted Horses

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Quote from: Florestan on June 25, 2024, 04:45:55 AMYes but so far only one of them has publicly displayed behavior and talk which might be seen as symptoms of senility. Honestly, I am absolutely shocked that the party of Kennedy, Clinton and Obama could not come up with a younger and healthier alternative.


Biden has a life-long stutter and has been a gaff machine for all of his political life. I have come across numerous essays by clinical psychiatrists who point out that Trump's use of language has shown marked deterioration. He also has the intellectual acumen of a man who would remark about George Washington "You know, they thought he had slaves. Actually I think he probably didn't." George Washington is one of the most well known figures in American history, was possibly the wealthiest plantation owner in the country and owned more than 300 slaves at his death. In his will he freed one.

In my opinion, neither candidate has the physical stamina for this extremely demanding job. One is dangerous.

Now we are on a forbidden subject.

DavidW

Quote from: steve ridgway on June 25, 2024, 05:22:46 AMIs anyone in America undecided?

Welcome to American politics... yes and they determine who wins.  A small fraction of undecided voters in the swing states will decide the election.  That is really what all this is about... the debates, marketing, marketing in all but name from Fox News and MSNBC... it is about persuading that small fraction of people who really determine the outcome of the election.

Todd

Quote from: steve ridgway on June 25, 2024, 05:22:46 AMIs anyone in America undecided?

Yes.  The opinions and votes of most of them will not matter.  Only undecided voters in a subset of swing states may be able to influence the outcome, as David mentioned.  The number of states ranges between seven and thirteen, depending on source.  Thirteen is of course the number of colonies, and it is also the number of states needed to kill a Constitutional Amendment.  It is a lucky number.


Quote from: Spotted Horses on June 25, 2024, 06:53:06 AMOne is dangerous.

Both are dangerous.  Current US foreign policy conclusively demonstrates that.
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