Personality Types

[steve ridgway]

do you ever lucid dream?

Not lucid and I'm generally happy just experiencing whatever happens.

[steve ridgway]

I lived 40 years assuming I am "an introverted normie." If you are right, I was right for 40 years, but I kept wondering why my life has been what it has been. having a life "introverted normies" typically have seemed so impossible for me. Only when I started thinking myself of someone with Asperger's/high functioning autism did I understand pretty much everything! Is it only coincidence a wrong diagnose has such a power to explain my life? If you had lived your life in my boots you would understand why I believe so strongly I am a mildly autistic individual. If I don't get to call myself someone with Asperger's, I don't know who does. I wasn't even the one who came up with this Asperger's diagnosis (because I didn't know about it or much about autism either). It was my sister who thought I have it.

Even if I am completely wrong in my self-diagnose, educating myself about personality types, neurotypes and autism has made me understand different people MUCH better than before. This has been a very beneficial experience either way. I wish I had known about these things when I was much younger.

According to the internet, about 1 in 40 males are autistic. Some of us has to have it, right? Looks like I am one. Is that so hard to believe?

If you feel this label fits you well and better explains your nature then you don't need anyone's permission to identify with it. I'm in favour of anything that helps with self understanding .

[71 dB]

If you feel this label fits you well and better explains your nature then you don't need anyone's permission to identify with it. I'm in favour of anything that helps with self understanding .

I never asked to be born autistic. My life would probably have been better as a normie, but it is what it is. Now I understand my situation much better and I can try and make the most out of it. Being autistic/me is not all bad. There are both pros and cons about it.

[71 dB]

I thought of a better summary of what I want, in as few words as possible:
-to be left alone so that I can dream of something better than than this reality.

Well put! I have this tendency. Perhaps not as strongly as you (since my autism seems to be mild), but I do relate with this.

Same for me.
A big reason could be that jobs have much much less freedom than school does, because money is directly involved.
(But if you mean socially... ehhh can't relate)

American schools and jobs are different from Finnish schools and jobs. The main difference between schools and jobs for me is you have to be a "terrorist" to be expelled from school while getting fired from work takes almost nothing. Good workers are fired every day. In schools there is a place for everyone and you must go! In worklife there just aren't places/job for people. It is cruel to demand people to work for living, because there are no job quarantees.

[Florestan]

I thought of a better summary of what I want, in as few words as possible:
-to be left alone so that I can dream of something better than than this reality.

Being a hermit would suit you just fine, then.

[71 dB]

Apparently "spiky skill set" is an autistic trait. I have that. I am very good at some narrow things while many other things are difficult for me.

[Florestan]

I am very good at some narrow things while many other things are difficult for me.

I'll eat my hat* if this weren't valid for most people.

*see my avatar

[Spotted Horses]

As a person with an autistic family member, I don't find it appropriate for people to be "diagnosing" themselves with autism based on being socially awkward having various attributes. Autism is not a psychological condition. It is an organic brain disorder, like multiple sclerosis or Parkenson's disease, although the mechanism is not well understood at this time.

[Florestan]

Autism is not a psychological condition. It is an organic brain disorder

This, absolutely.

I personally know an officially diagnosed, under treatment autistic person --- and I assure you, @greg and @71 dB , that he is nothing at all like you, or rather vice versa.

[71 dB]

This, absolutely.

I personally know an officially diagnosed, under treatment autistic person --- and I assure you, @greg and @71 dB , that he is nothing at all like you, or rather vice versa.

Autism is a spectrum. Someone with Asperger's is very different from someone with severe low functioning autism.

You don't know me. Why you try to claim I am not autistic is beyond me. 1 in 40 men are autistic. Autism explains my life. Nothing else that I know does. So, sorry if I find these attacks insulting.

[Florestan]

You don't know me.

I know you from what you keep posting time and again.

[71 dB]

As a person with an autistic family member, I don't find it appropriate for people to be "diagnosing" themselves with autism based on being socially awkward having various attributes. Autism is not a psychological condition. It is an organic brain disorder, like multiple sclerosis or Parkenson's disease, although the mechanism is not well understood at this time.

Psychological conditions come from somewhere. There is reason for them. An autistic person may not have these conditions in early life, but negative traumatic life experiences create them. Meanwhile normies avoid such trauma (thanks to having adequate social skills and interests than other people) and do not develop psychological conditions (or develop different ones if there are some other kind of traumas such as abuse).

I'm okay talking with ONE person. My social skill can manage that. The bigger group of people, the more I struggle. That is asperger's for you.

[Florestan]

o, sorry if I find these attacks insulting.

What attacks, for Christ's sake, and how did I insult you? Just show me one single post of mine where I attacked, let alone insulted you. You post your feelings, I comment upon them.

[Florestan]

normies

I strongly object to this insulting term. 

[71 dB]

I know you from what you keep posting time and again.

So who am I to you? I am tired of this. I think I better keep my problems and thoughts to myself from now on. I'm off to watch classic Doctor Who on DVD (The Androids of Tara, parts 3 and 4).

[Florestan]

So who am I to you?

Poju of the GMG.

A fellow (male) human being with whom I share many things.

A nice guy, with his fair share of human shortcomings --- just like myself, or any and all of us.

Bottom line, a virtual friend, if you'd just allow me to call that.

[DavidW]

Hi all,

I've locked the thread. Harmful disinformation is presented as facts on the thread, and insults are being traded. This is a complex, sensitive issue. The team will discuss it.

In the meantime, I think this thread needs to be locked to cool down.

[DavidW]

Okay, the thread is unlocked. I wonder if the heat is getting to people. Let's please keep it civil.

[Spotted Horses]

This, absolutely.

I personally know an officially diagnosed, under treatment autistic person --- and I assure you, @greg and @71 dB , that he is nothing at all like you, or rather vice versa.

As 71dB has pointed out, autism is a spectrum ranging from severe to mild. Just because a person does not resemble an autistic person you know does not prove the person is not autistic. I had no intention to assert that 71 dB (or greg) is not autistic. My point is that autism is a medical condition which has specific diagnostic criteria. It is diagnosed by a trained professional, just like any other medical condition.

[Spotted Horses]

Psychological conditions come from somewhere. There is reason for them. An autistic person may not have these conditions in early life, but negative traumatic life experiences create them. Meanwhile normies avoid such trauma (thanks to having adequate social skills and interests than other people) and do not develop psychological conditions (or develop different ones if there are some other kind of traumas such as abuse).

I'm okay talking with ONE person. My social skill can manage that. The bigger group of people, the more I struggle. That is asperger's for you.

I believe autism is defined as a developmental disorder. It manifests itself around the age of two, and consists of a pattern of neurological deficits centered around language, empathy and self-regulation. Symptoms which arise later based on traumatic experiences sound like post-traumatic stress disorder, which people associate with the severe trauma of war, near-death experiences, severe abuse, etc, but which can also arise from more mundane trauma.

Again, I do not deny that you have autism. My point is just that if you believe so you should consult with a health care professional, so your condition, whatever it is, can be identified and treated, if appropriate.