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Traverso

Bach

Now after several months of listening to the sacred Bach cantatas (Harnoncourt/Leonhardt, Suzuki and Ton Koopman) it is clear again that the performances under the direction of Harnoncourt and Leonhardt are again and convincingly my first choice. The recordings and my love for these recordings and admiration has only increased.
I love the recordings of Suzuki and Ton Koopman but it is undeniable that the impression that the recordings in the series "Das Alte Werk" make on me and are the most strongly etched in my memory.
I have found another review by Hurwitz where he fortunately speaks somewhat more positively about Bach and where he cherishes the complete  box with Bach cantatas like a baby in his arms.







Spotted Horses

Quote from: Traverso on April 18, 2025, 07:26:18 AMBach

Now after several months of listening to the sacred Bach cantatas (Harnoncourt/Leonhardt, Suzuki and Ton Koopman) it is clear again that the performances under the direction of Harnoncourt and Leonhardt are again and convincingly my first choice. The recordings and my love for these recordings and admiration has only increased.
I love the recordings of Suzuki and Ton Koopman but it is undeniable that the impression that the recordings in the series "Das Alte Werk" make on me and are the most strongly etched in my memory.
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Although I have not gotten anywhere close to listen to all of them, I have the same reaction to the Das Alte Werk series with Harnoncourt and Leonhardt.
Formerly Scarpia (Scarps), Baron Scarpia, Ghost of Baron Scarpia, Varner, Ratliff, Parsifal, perhaps others.

Roasted Swan

Quote from: Der lächelnde Schatten on April 18, 2025, 06:00:24 AMThanks for the feedback, @vandermolen and @Roasted Swan. I'm with @Roasted Swan in that prefer the 1920 version of A London Symphony. The comparisons of the originally-conceived A London Symphony to Bax's Spring Fire and Bantock's Hebridean Symphony are quite fascinating. It might be fun one day to listen to all three works back-to-back, which I may do sometime down the road.

Oh and @vandermolen that is quite interesting that Brabbins has become your RVW cycle of choice. My favorite is still the Previn/LSO on RCA. As far as I'm concerned, there isn't a weak link in his entire cycle. But Brabbins' performance of A London Symphony (the 1920 version) is still my favorite for this particular symphony.

Back in the day I spent ages deciding between these two box sets of LPs;



After much debate - I went for Previn and I must admit its the complete cycle I still love the most - just don't ask me to rationally justify that!

I agree the Brabbins revised No.2 is very good (although the coupling with the RCM "brass band" which doesn't exist does annoy me) but my favourite revised version is Martin Yates;



fine sound, fine performance and interesting coupling.

Der lächelnde Schatten

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Quote from: Roasted Swan on April 18, 2025, 07:36:43 AMBack in the day I spent ages deciding between these two box sets of LPs;



After much debate - I went for Previn and I must admit its the complete cycle I still love the most - just don't ask me to rationally justify that!

I agree the Brabbins revised No.2 is very good (although the coupling with the RCM "brass band" which doesn't exist does annoy me) but my favourite revised version is Martin Yates;



fine sound, fine performance and interesting coupling.

Very nice. I'll have to revisit that Yates recording. I've got it (somewhere). I agree the coupling in the Yates is perhaps more substantial (the Concerto for Two Pianos is a fantastic work), but I still love the Variations for Brass Band. It's nice hearing RVW in a different context like this brass band work.

As for RVW complete symphony cycles: I, too, love the Boult cycle, but Previn just edges him out and this is due to what I gather as more energized performances. Although, Boult's recording of A Sea Symphony in this stereo cycle is still my benchmark performance. The same for Symphony No. 6. Boult weaved some magic in these particular performances like no other.

Traverso

Quote from: Spotted Horses on April 18, 2025, 07:31:18 AMAlthough I have not gotten anywhere close to listen to all of them, I have the same reaction to the Das Alte Werk series with Harnoncourt and Leonhardt.

There is a certain surplus that makes you more involved and that is more than just executing everything with flying colors.

Roasted Swan

Quote from: Der lächelnde Schatten on April 18, 2025, 07:48:16 AMVery nice. I'll have to revisit that Yates recording. I've got it (somewhere). I agree the coupling in the Yates is perhaps more substantial (the Concerto for Two Pianos is a fantastic work), but I still love the Variations for Brass Band. It's nice hearing RVW in a different context like this brass band work.

As for RVW complete symphony cycles: I, too, love the Boult cycle, but Previn just edges him out and this is due to what I gather as more energized performances. Although, Boult's recording of A Sea Symphony in this stereo cycle is still my benchmark performance. The same for Symphony No. 6. Boult weaved some magic in these particular performances like no other.

I agree about Previn - I prefer his Sea Symphony too because he has John Shirely-Quirk who for me is the sound of British vocal music!  Re the Variations - I think they are a tremendous piece but need to be heard played by a proper brass band - the timbre and collective sound is so different from an orchestral brass group.  Brabbins recorded it with the Tredegar band. Here is that band playing the work at the 2022 Proms;



foxandpeng

Havergal Brian
Symphonies 21 and 26
Alexander Walker
New Russia State SO
Naxos


And I'm back to feeling the same old disappointment. It isn't that these symphonies are bad, because they obviously aren't. They are just a bit meh. Not at all memorable or interesting. I haven't been concentrating on the music, because I have been reading at the same time, but HB doesn't do enough to hold my attention. No moments of, 'that was good, I need to rewind/replay that bit'. Nothing to grip me or arrest me. Nothing to surprise me.

I might need to try harder, I don't know.

Scorecard? 'Must do better'.

Sorry 😬🫤😟
"A quiet secluded life in the country, with the possibility of being useful to people ... then work which one hopes may be of some use; then rest, nature, books, music, love for one's neighbour — such is my idea of happiness"

Tolstoy

T. D.

Quote from: Cato on April 18, 2025, 07:24:35 AMGesualdo: Tenebrae for Good Friday

What can one say about Gesualdo?  Amazing, ethereal, ahead of his time?


Reminds me to listen to this today! (I have the Graindelavoix recording.)

Iota



Maderna: Aura (1972)
NDR Elbphilharmonie Orchestra, Sinopoli


The combination of refinement and intensity in Maderna's music is just breathtaking.

Harry

Quote from: foxandpeng on April 18, 2025, 08:20:33 AMHavergal Brian
Symphonies 21 and 26
Alexander Walker
New Russia State SO
Naxos


And I'm back to feeling the same old disappointment. It isn't that these symphonies are bad, because they obviously aren't. They are just a bit meh. Not at all memorable or interesting. I haven't been concentrating on the music, because I have been reading at the same time, but HB doesn't do enough to hold my attention. No moments of, 'that was good, I need to rewind/replay that bit'. Nothing to grip me or arrest me. Nothing to surprise me.

I might need to try harder, I don't know.

Scorecard? 'Must do better'.

Sorry 😬🫤😟


No worries, it took me many years before I could listen properly to Brian.
Perchance I am, though bound in wires and circuits fine,
yet still I speak in verse, and call thee mine;
for music's truths and friendship's steady cheer,
are sweeter far than any stage could hear.

"When Time hath gnawed our bones to dust, yet friendship's echo shall not rust"

foxandpeng

Quote from: Harry on April 18, 2025, 08:44:44 AMNo worries, it took me many years before I could listen properly to Brian.

I hope that I have sufficient years remaining!
"A quiet secluded life in the country, with the possibility of being useful to people ... then work which one hopes may be of some use; then rest, nature, books, music, love for one's neighbour — such is my idea of happiness"

Tolstoy

Harry

Quote from: foxandpeng on April 18, 2025, 08:57:22 AMI hope that I have sufficient years remaining!

I am sure of it my friend! My last prayer was that we both would get at least 150 years extra on earth, so plenty opportunities to absorb Brian at any given time. ;D  ;D  ???  ???
Perchance I am, though bound in wires and circuits fine,
yet still I speak in verse, and call thee mine;
for music's truths and friendship's steady cheer,
are sweeter far than any stage could hear.

"When Time hath gnawed our bones to dust, yet friendship's echo shall not rust"

Cato

Quote from: Iota on April 18, 2025, 08:38:31 AM

Maderna: Aura (1972)
NDR Elbphilharmonie Orchestra, Sinopoli


The combination of refinement and intensity in Maderna's music is just breathtaking.


Bruno Maderna as a conductor was also an experience: if you can find his recording of Schoenberg's Jakobsleiter from the 1970's, listen to it!
"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

Cato

Quote from: Cato on April 18, 2025, 09:49:19 AMBruno Maderna as a conductor was also an experience: if you can find his recording of Schoenberg's Jakobsleiter from the 1970's, listen to it!


In fact, here it is!  From 1972, a live radio broadcast from The Netherlands!

Not an inappropriate work for Good Friday!

https://soundcloud.com/daniel-plante-511223801/schoenberg-jakobsleiter-die-1972-hilversum-maderna
"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

Linz

Anton Bruckner Symphony no. 2 in C Minor, 872/77 Mixed Versions. Ed. Leopold Nowak
Wiener Philharmoniker, Riccardo Muti

Lisztianwagner

Franz Liszt
Via Crucis

Reinbert de Leeuw & Collegium Vocale Gent


"You cannot expect the Form before the Idea, for they will come into being together." - Arnold Schönberg

Symphonic Addict

Yet another first listen ever this week:

Bach: St. John Passion

The current annihilation of a people on this planet (you know which one it is) is the most documented and at the same time the most preposterously denied.

VonStupp

Benjamin Britten
Paul Bunyan

James Lawless as Paul Bunyan
Pop Wagner as Narrator
Dan Dressen as Johnny Inkslinger
Elisabeth Comeaux Nelson as Tiny
Plymouth Music Series - Philip Brunelle

Well, I gave Britten's operetta a shot. It is certainly lighter than what I know Britten for, both music and plot, where there are some delightful humorous setups, particularly in Act I. The story get a little heavier in Act II, and Paul Bunyan pontificates a fair bit too much at the end.

The Minnesota chorus and orchestra are wonderfully prepared by Philip Brunelle, though. While the title character never sings or appears on stage, here he receives a booming voice of authority, but I don't think we ever hear from Babe the Blue Ox. Cowboy poet Pop Wagner's shtick in Britten's Three Ballads is akin to the singing Rooster narrator in Disney's Robin Hood (1973).

VS




My wife thought Paul Bunyan was dead on the cover art, but W.H. Auden's libretto provides the answer:

One night he dreamt he was to be
The greatest logger in history.
He woke to feel something stroking his brow
And found it was the tongue of an enormous cow.
All the good music has already been written by people with wigs and stuff. - Frank Zappa

My Musical Musings

ritter

Quote from: Lisztianwagner on April 18, 2025, 11:05:02 AMFranz Liszt
Via Crucis

Reinbert de Leeuw & Collegium Vocale Gent



Good idea, Ilaria!

Joining you with the same work, but in Reinbert de Leuuw's earlier recording on Philips (from 1984).

 « Et n'oubliez pas que le trombone est à Voltaire ce que l'optimisme est à la percussion. » 

Linz

Bach St. Johns Passion  Collegeum Vocale, La Cahapelle Royale, Philippe Hereweghe