What are you listening 2 now?

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Florestan

Quote from: Florestan on May 03, 2025, 10:21:20 AMHistorically-Informed Listening.

It could be argued that for all music before Late Romanticism our listening habits, ie one whole CD at a time, are wrong --- that's not at all how they listened back then.
"Great music is that which penetrates the ear with facility and leaves the memory with difficulty. Magical music never leaves the memory." — Thomas Beecham

prémont

Quote from: Florestan on May 03, 2025, 10:59:15 AMIt could be argued that for all music before Late Romanticism our listening habits, ie one whole CD at a time, are wrong --- that's not at all how they listened back then.

How music was listened to in the Baroque period does not oblige us in any way. I simply wanted to point out to Mandryka that the CD in question might - for the reason Mandryka states - be better served by being listened to in smaller bits at a time.
Reality trumps our fantasy far beyond imagination.

Symphonic Addict

The third quartet was composed as a reaction to the invasion of Iraq in 2003 and the fourth one was inspired by Brueghel's paintings of children's games. Very raw, rough, distressing music, but also stimulating.

Part of the tragedy of the Palestinians is that they have essentially no international support for a good reason: they've no wealth, they've no power, so they've no rights.

Noam Chomsky

Florestan

Quote from: prémont on May 03, 2025, 11:07:34 AMHow music was listened to in the Baroque period does not oblige us in any way.

Of course. It's just that a Baroque listener's ways were completely different than ours ---and I think that HIP without HIL is self-defeating.
"Great music is that which penetrates the ear with facility and leaves the memory with difficulty. Magical music never leaves the memory." — Thomas Beecham

ritter

Piano music by Charles Koechlin, played by Mireille Guillaume: Cinq sonatines, op. 59, Pastorales, op. 77, Douze esquisses (1ère série), op. 47 N° 1.

From this 2 CD set:

 « Et n'oubliez pas que le trombone est à Voltaire ce que l'optimisme est à la percussion. » 

Linz

#128645
Robert Schumann Symphony in G Minor, WoO 29 "Zwickauer
Anton Bruckner Symphony in D Minor, WAB 100 "Annuliert
Le Concert des Nations, Jordi Savall

prémont

Quote from: Florestan on May 03, 2025, 11:32:01 AM---and I think that HIP without HIL is self-defeating.

Why is that? Hopefully we decide for ourselves how much HIP we want to include in our music listening, right?
Reality trumps our fantasy far beyond imagination.

AnotherSpin

Quote from: prémont on May 03, 2025, 11:59:43 AMWhy is that? Hopefully we decide for ourselves how much HIP we want to include in our music listening, right?

I quite agree — there are, and surely can be, no rules about how or how much music one should listen to. Today I've been wrapped up in trio sonatas almost all day, sampling perhaps ten different performances, with the indulgence of hearing two or three sets all the way through.

Linz

Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart CD 9
Clarinet concerto in A major, KV 622 Hans Deinzer, clarinet
Oboe Concerto in C major, KV 314 Helmut Hucke, Oboe
Collegium Aureum, Franzjosef Maier

VonStupp

Hugo Alfvén
Symphony 3 in E Major, op. 23
Swedish Rhapsody 3 'Dala', op. 47
Prodigal Son: Suite
Stockholm PO - Neeme Järvi

I love symphonies which burst out with joy, such as Alfvén's Third! His Prodigal Son is quite different than Britten's I heard recently.
VS

All the good music has already been written by people with wigs and stuff. - Frank Zappa

My Musical Musings

Lisztianwagner

Arnold Schönberg
Variations for Orchestra
Five Pieces for Orchestra

Pierre Boulez & BBC Symphony Orchestra


"You cannot expect the Form before the Idea, for they will come into being together." - Arnold Schönberg

Linz

Anton Bruckner Symphony No. 1 in C Minor, 1877 Linz version with revisions - Ed. Leopold Nowak
Frankfurt Radio Symphony, Paavo Järvi

Symphonic Addict

Krenek: Symphony No. 1

A very fine and impressive first symphony featuring great counterpoint, several attractive march-like passages and some imposing climaxes. A solid musical edifice.

Part of the tragedy of the Palestinians is that they have essentially no international support for a good reason: they've no wealth, they've no power, so they've no rights.

Noam Chomsky

Linz

Ludwig van Beethoven Wind Octet in E-Flat Major, Op. 103
Franz Schubert Octet in F Major, Op. 166, D. 803. Wind Octet in E-Flat Major, Op. 103
Melos Ensemble

foxandpeng

Beethoven
Complete String Quartets
SQ 16
Tokyo String Quartet
Harmonia Mundi


Outside of my usual listening.
"A quiet secluded life in the country, with the possibility of being useful to people ... then work which one hopes may be of some use; then rest, nature, books, music, love for one's neighbour — such is my idea of happiness"

Tolstoy

foxandpeng

Ruth Gipps
Symphony 2
Rumon Gamba
BBC NOoW
Chandos


I've been watching the threads, so starting with Symphony 2 in order to not completely miss the Gipps boat.
"A quiet secluded life in the country, with the possibility of being useful to people ... then work which one hopes may be of some use; then rest, nature, books, music, love for one's neighbour — such is my idea of happiness"

Tolstoy

André



The name Koppel is very well known in Danish musical circles. Grandda Herman is one of the best composers of Denmark. He begat sons Thomas and Anders, both composers as well as daughters Therese (pianist and piano teacher) and Lone, first soprano at Copenhagen's Royal Theatre Opera. From the 1950s on it's been hard to avoid the name Koppel in Danish musical life. The newest generation continues the family tradition.

Anders (b. 1947) made music his life pursuit early on, starting his rock group Savage Rose (brother Thomas was another member) at age 20, then writing film and ballet scores. One headline grabbing occasion occured in 1971 with the ballet Triumph of Death which was danced naked at the Royal Danish Theatre - as every 27-year old would do. He eventually focused on becoming a concert pianist and composer of 'serious music'.

I have a few discs of his works and never fail to find them pleasant and original. Anders doesn't have his Dad's penchant for angst and strife. He has an unfailingly sunny composure and the works on this disc bear that description.

The 2007 Sinfonia concertante is scored for violin, viola, clarinet, bassoon and orchestra. It's a real charmer.

The Flute and Harp concerto is a thing of beauty. It reminds me of French music by the likes of Poulenc, Françaix or Tailleferre - prepared with a slightly more modern, film-influenced sauce.

For most of the Tuba concerto's duration you could have fooled me in thinking I was hearing a bassoon or contrabassoon. Nothing like Vaughan-Williams' ultra virile brass sound taking center stage from the get go. Koppel treats the tuba so gently, it sounds like it's about to put the kids to sleep with a lullaby. It sounds grumpier in the last movement, but still quite bonhomme. This one's a real treat.

Warmly recommended.

foxandpeng

Quote from: André on May 03, 2025, 04:38:58 PM

The name Koppel is very well known in Danish musical circles. Grandda Herman is one of the best composers of Denmark. He begat sons Thomas and Anders, both composers as well as daughters Therese (pianist and piano teacher) and Lone, first soprano at Copenhagen's Royal Theatre Opera. From the 1950s on it's been hard to avoid the name Koppel in Danish musical life. The newest generation continues the family tradition.

Anders (b. 1947) made music his life pursuit early on, starting his rock group Savage Rose (brother Thomas was another member) at age 20, then writing film and ballet scores. One headline grabbing occasion occured in 1971 with the ballet Triumph of Death which was danced naked at the Royal Danish Theatre - as every 27-year old would do. He eventually focused on becoming a concert pianist and composer of 'serious music'.

I have a few discs of his works and never fail to find them pleasant and original. Anders doesn't have his Dad's penchant for angst and strife. He has an unfailingly sunny composure and the works on this disc bear that description.

The 2007 Sinfonia concertante is scored for violin, viola, clarinet, bassoon and orchestra. It's a real charmer.

The Flute and Harp concerto is a thing of beauty. It reminds me of French music by the likes of Poulenc, Françaix or Tailleferre - prepared with a slightly more modern, film-influenced sauce.

For most of the Tuba concerto's duration you could have fooled me in thinking I was hearing a bassoon or contrabassoon. Nothing like Vaughan-Williams' ultra virile brass sound taking center stage from the get go. Koppel treats the tuba so gently, it sounds like it's about to put the kids to sleep with a lullaby. It sounds grumpier in the last movement, but still quite bonhomme. This one's a real treat.

Warmly recommended.

Great write up. Thank you 😊
"A quiet secluded life in the country, with the possibility of being useful to people ... then work which one hopes may be of some use; then rest, nature, books, music, love for one's neighbour — such is my idea of happiness"

Tolstoy

Dry Brett Kavanaugh

Ravel piano works. Dezsö Ránki.





JBS

First listen. For some reason Naxos omits from the promotional materials that this is a HIP/PI performance--a Conrad Graf fortepiano dating to 1826/27, and gut strings on the violin and cello, plus following performance practice of the era. That's buried in the liner notes.


Piano Trio in c minor Op 143 (1826)
Grand Trio in f minor WoO 86 (1836--world premiere recording

Hollywood Beach Broadwalk