What are you listening 2 now?

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Selig

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Quote from: AnotherSpin on June 15, 2025, 07:23:14 AMAdded: After posting this undeniably wonderful album in the thread, I started wondering — what does New Holland - Nuova Olanda actually have to do with it? I believe that name was once used for Australia? I did a bit of digging online — Qobuz doesn't provide much detail — and found out that the recordings for the album were actually made in northeastern Italy, in four locations in what used to be the province of Udine, now reorganized. It seems this might somehow be related to the production of tractors under the New Holland brand. I couldn't find any other connection, but maybe someone else is better informed or more persistent in their search?

Thanks for this obscure research challenge  8)

Here is a map of Friuli from 1778:
https://sanderusmaps.com/our-catalogue/antique-maps/europe/italy/friuli-by-paolo-santini?srsltid=AfmBOorQynfJqZO6CscZcdAJUOs4OGvPBO909gR65k5X-bVTIMqkfYU1

If you zoom in on Fagagna (northwest of Udine, or above the "EN" in VENETO), you can actually see La Nuova Olanda marked on the map! Close to it you'll see Madrisio, Villalta, and Ciconico, where the organs are located.

So what exactly was Nuova Olanda? It was an "experimental" factory built in connection to a peat bog, a venture by the entrepreneurial Count Fabio Asquini (1726–1818) who had the idea to use peat as fuel (as a cheaper alternative to wood). It was quite successful for a limited time, and attracted a lot of attention.

Why did he name it Nuova Olanda? He had gotten the idea to explore the use of peat thanks to the writings of his great uncle Nicolò Madrisio (1656-1729), who described the land burning during his travels in Holland. Additionally, the bog was at the lowest part of the territory, and he thought the name Holland meant lowland (hol land = hollow land, which Wikipedia describes as "A popular but erroneous folk etymology").

I guess the name stuck around (locally) as a nickname for the lowland around Fagagna.

source: Cultura in Friuli 5. "Il conte Fabio Asquini, imprenditore friulano del '700"

ritter

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That information on La Nuova Olanda was a pleasant surprise. Thanks @AnotherSpin and @Selig for bringing it to our attention and for the clarifications.  :)
 « Et n'oubliez pas que le trombone est à Voltaire ce que l'optimisme est à la percussion. » 

André



A wonderful, protean work. Cast in 5 movements played without interruption, it takes the listener through vast musical landscapes through an arc-like structure. Its centrepiece is the huge 3rd movement, 'Pezzo serioso', in which Busoni seems to link Liszt with Scriabin. Sometimes a piano concerto, sometimes a symphony with obbligato keyboard, sometimes a mystical post-romantic beethovenian Choral Fantasy - its form changes many times over its almost 80 minutes' duration.

In this recording Massa has inserted in the 4th movement a cadenza that Busoni had composed for the version for two pianos and choir published in 1908. Massa plays a beautiful-sounding Bechstein instrument - proudly resonant and slightly percussive in tone, the effect being of a full, noble but perfectly clear sound.


JBS

In honor of @Gurn Blanston
Beethoven Op 125 for Sunday


Symphony no 9 in d minor

London Symphony Orchestra and Chorus
Soloists
Heather Harper
Helen Watts
Alexander Young
Donald McIntyre

Recorded 23 September 1967
Fairfield Hall Croydon

Filled out by "private recording" of the Coriolan Overture from RAH February 1974

Hollywood Beach Broadwalk

Dry Brett Kavanaugh

Richard Jones: Lessons For Harpsichord / Mitzi Meyerson.









Der lächelnde Schatten

Continuing on with the Glass symphonies --- NP: Symphony No. 9

"To send light into the darkness of men's hearts - such is the duty of the artist." ― Robert Schumann

steve ridgway

Penderecki - Emanations


steve ridgway

Maderna - Concerto For Oboe And Orchestra No. 3


AnotherSpin

Quote from: Selig on June 15, 2025, 02:22:09 PMThanks for this obscure research challenge  8)

Here is a map of Friuli from 1778:
https://sanderusmaps.com/our-catalogue/antique-maps/europe/italy/friuli-by-paolo-santini?srsltid=AfmBOorQynfJqZO6CscZcdAJUOs4OGvPBO909gR65k5X-bVTIMqkfYU1

If you zoom in on Fagagna (northwest of Udine, or above the "EN" in VENETO), you can actually see La Nuova Olanda marked on the map! Close to it you'll see Madrisio, Villalta, and Ciconico, where the organs are located.

So what exactly was Nuova Olanda? It was an "experimental" factory built in connection to a peat bog, a venture by the entrepreneurial Count Fabio Asquini (1726–1818) who had the idea to use peat as fuel (as a cheaper alternative to wood). It was quite successful for a limited time, and attracted a lot of attention.

Why did he name it Nuova Olanda? He had gotten the idea to explore the use of peat thanks to the writings of his great uncle Nicolò Madrisio (1656-1729), who described the land burning during his travels in Holland. Additionally, the bog was at the lowest part of the territory, and he thought the name Holland meant lowland (hol land = hollow land, which Wikipedia describes as "A popular but erroneous folk etymology").

I guess the name stuck around (locally) as a nickname for the lowland around Fagagna.

source: Cultura in Friuli 5. "Il conte Fabio Asquini, imprenditore friulano del '700"


Thank you, your information clarifies the origin of the name. here is additional info:


steve ridgway

Szymanowski - Symphony No. 3


steve ridgway

Richard Strauss - Duett-Concertino

I played it through but couldn't really engage with it  :( .


steve ridgway

Messiaen - Verset Pour La Fête De La Dédicace

This organ music is more to my liking  8) .


steve ridgway

Nono - Ricorda Cosa Ti Hanno Fatto In Auschwitz

Eerie, frightening choral tape music.


AnotherSpin

Franck: Organ Works

Leo van Doeselaar


Que



The idea of giving this set a listen was to determine whether it could go - it cannot...  8)

steve ridgway

Xenakis - Anaktoria

Harsh but I enjoyed this more than the Strauss. And a great selfie there from I.X.  8) .


prémont

Quote from: Que on June 15, 2025, 10:09:28 PM

The idea of giving this set a listen was to determine whether it could go - it cannot...  8)

Is the music unsubstantial or is the performer to blame? - or both?
Reality trumps our fantasy far beyond imagination.

steve ridgway

Messiaen - 4 Inédits Pour Piano Et Onde Martenot

Light, airy music composed in 1937.


Que

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Quote from: prémont on June 15, 2025, 10:30:54 PMIs the music unsubstantial or is the performer to blame? - or both?

It cannot go = I'm keeping it!  ;D

Some (most) would feel that Barrière is too flashy, but I love it. Great performances by Quintavalle.

Traverso