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Que

#1180
April 28, 2025, 09:22:06 AM
Quote from: André Le Nôtre on April 27, 2025, 09:37:14 PMI have been away for a while (hi) [...]

Two years!  :o  Welcome back.  :)

Mandryka

#1181
June 20, 2025, 12:19:53 AM


Michael Bennett, late Bull. My ears pricked up on a fantasia titled "Johan D Bull, 1621, MB1" Amazing music in the style made famous by Sweelinck and his pupils.
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

Harry

#1182
June 20, 2025, 02:23:10 AM
Quote from: Mandryka on June 20, 2025, 12:19:53 AM

Michael Bennett, late Bull. My ears pricked up on a fantasia titled "Johan D Bull, 1621, MB1" Amazing music in the style made famous by Sweelinck and his pupils.

Bookmarked, and a few of his other recordings. All good Organs!
Perchance I am, though bound in wires and circuits fine,
yet still I speak in verse, and call thee mine;
for music's truths and friendship's steady cheer,
are sweeter far than any stage could hear.

"When Time hath gnawed our bones to dust, yet friendship's echo shall not rust"

Mandryka

#1183
June 20, 2025, 02:40:31 AM
Quote from: Harry on June 20, 2025, 02:23:10 AMBookmarked, and a few of his other recordings. All good Organs!

I'm not so keen on the sound or on the approach in fact. On the other hand I know @bioluminescentsquid felt very positive about him.
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

Harry

#1184
June 20, 2025, 02:53:56 AM
Quote from: Mandryka on June 20, 2025, 02:40:31 AMI'm not so keen on the sound or on the approach in fact. On the other hand I know @bioluminescentsquid felt very positive about him.

No harm in trying though, what?
Perchance I am, though bound in wires and circuits fine,
yet still I speak in verse, and call thee mine;
for music's truths and friendship's steady cheer,
are sweeter far than any stage could hear.

"When Time hath gnawed our bones to dust, yet friendship's echo shall not rust"

Mandryka

#1185
June 20, 2025, 05:42:52 AM
Quote from: Harry on June 20, 2025, 02:53:56 AMNo harm in trying though, what?

Of course -- and if you know any other recordings of the same piece, let me know please!
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

Harry

#1186
June 20, 2025, 05:55:40 AM
Quote from: Mandryka on June 20, 2025, 05:42:52 AMOf course -- and if you know any other recordings of the same piece, let me know please!

Of course I will, but I think you know the recording of Leon Berben, In Nomine Walsingham, which I consider a very worthwhile recording. But as for now I do not know if they are the same works.
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They are not!
Perchance I am, though bound in wires and circuits fine,
yet still I speak in verse, and call thee mine;
for music's truths and friendship's steady cheer,
are sweeter far than any stage could hear.

"When Time hath gnawed our bones to dust, yet friendship's echo shall not rust"

Que

#1187
June 20, 2025, 09:38:34 AM
Quote from: Harry on June 20, 2025, 05:55:40 AMOf course I will, but I think you know the recording of Leon Berben, In Nomine Walsingham, which I consider a very worthwhile recording. But as for now I do not know if they are the same works.
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They are not!

I will check out Berben! I'm not a fan of Michael Bennet either..

Sofar Thilo Muster (ifo Records) (on an English organ in Normandy) was a hit for me..

bioluminescentsquid

#1188
June 21, 2025, 08:42:54 AM
Quote from: Mandryka on June 20, 2025, 05:42:52 AMOf course -- and if you know any other recordings of the same piece, let me know please!
Maciej Skrzeczkowski's real John Bull recording contains the only other performance of this piece I know of. It is a really interesting exploration of the low sonorities of the harpsichord or organ. And almost van den Kerckhovian in places.
I like the brash individuality of Bennett's playing but it can be too much for me at times as well.

Mandryka

#1189
June 21, 2025, 10:17:45 AM
Quote from: bioluminescentsquid on June 21, 2025, 08:42:54 AMMaciej Skrzeczkowski's real John Bull recording contains the only other performance of this piece I know of. It is a really interesting exploration of the low sonorities of the harpsichord or organ. And almost van den Kerckhovian in places.
I like the brash individuality of Bennett's playing but it can be too much for me at times as well.

I like that Skrzeczkowski recording, thanx for reminding me of it. And I love that fantasy!
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

Que

#1190
June 21, 2025, 11:48:05 AM
Quote from: bioluminescentsquid on June 21, 2025, 08:42:54 AMMaciej Skrzeczkowski's real John Bull recording contains the only other performance of this piece I know of. It is a really interesting exploration of the low sonorities of the harpsichord or organ. And almost van den Kerckhovian in places.

Quote from: Mandryka on June 21, 2025, 10:17:45 AMI like that Skrzeczkowski recording, thanx for reminding me of it. And I love that fantasy!

Noted!

Mandryka

#1191
July 17, 2025, 02:07:14 PM
Quote from: Mandryka on July 05, 2021, 12:42:50 AM

Retreated from Berben's Weckmann for meantone  ricercari, and that's more like what music should sound like!

Back to this this evening - really good!
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

prémont

#1192
July 17, 2025, 03:09:08 PM
Quote from: Mandryka on July 17, 2025, 02:07:14 PMBack to this this evening - really good!

Yes, certainly exceptional both as to music, organ and interpretation.
Reality trumps our fantasy far beyond imagination.

Elk

#1193
August 08, 2025, 07:41:13 AM
FWIW, I listened to all of the versions I have of Franck's 2nd Chorale, my favourite of his works (though the Grand Piece Symphonique comes close): Nordstoga, 2 x Murray, Kee, Higgs, Dupré, and Toren. Perhaps the best recorded is the Murray at the Cathedral of Saint John the Devine. It's also one of the best performances. So too the old vinyl of Torvald Toren, which may be my favourite of all the performances. One complaint I have of the others is the rolling off of the bass, so that the low 16 and 32' pipes are barely heard, but then, I tend to love those lows and miss them when absent particularly when I know they should be there.
Unfortunately, only Toren's 1st Chorale can be heard on YouTube. I don't know where else one can hear his performances. The Murray is on Spotify and probably other streaming services.
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