What are you listening 2 now?

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Der lächelnde Schatten

NP: Reich Eight Lines

From this set -



Eight Lines from what I remember is a reworking of his earlier Octet. This work isn't far removed from Music for Large Ensemble or Music for 18 Musicians, but one of the things that makes Eight Lines stand out, in particular, is an almost Medieval sounding flute part that occurs near the beginning of the work, but also string parts sound almost like the hurdy-gurdy.
"To send light into the darkness of men's hearts - such is the duty of the artist." ― Robert Schumann

Henk

Quote from: Brian on June 23, 2025, 11:41:13 AMPersonally I agree that Karl was wrong to think that you had an attacking intention, but I also don't think we are likely to enjoy any more productive conversation about this topic.

I agree. I will try to approach Karl differently in the future. I want to be friends, not opponents.
'The 'I' is not prior to the 'we'.' (Jean-Luc Nancy)

Der lächelnde Schatten

NP: Saint-Saëns Le Carnaval des animaux

"To send light into the darkness of men's hearts - such is the duty of the artist." ― Robert Schumann

Karl Henning

Quote from: VonStupp on June 23, 2025, 10:46:47 AMJean Sibelius
Symphony no. 1 in E minor, op. 39
NYPO - Leonard Bernstein

It has been a while since I have heard from Bernstein and NY; they certainly hit Sibelius' first symphony with a raw energy. A divisive approach, perhaps?

I usually don't get to these types of sets before they are off the market, but managed to snag this one. I see it is going anywhere from $100-$600 US on Amazon and Discogs.
VS



From this set:


Oh, I haven't listened in an age, and you indirectly urge me to rectify that!
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Lisztianwagner

Antonín Dvořák
Slavonic Dances, Op.46

Nikolaus Harnoncourt & Chamber Orchestra of Europe


"You cannot expect the Form before the Idea, for they will come into being together." - Arnold Schönberg

Henk

Quote from: Karl Henning on June 23, 2025, 10:02:07 AMYou know what's arbitrary? Your constructing a house of cards out of my post. Your bizarre "collective" red herring. But you have the applause of the guy who gets butthurt because many of us love Russian music. Congratulations.

I don't like it how you treat others, Karl. I guess it hurts you that Sergii is appreciated by many members of this forum.
'The 'I' is not prior to the 'we'.' (Jean-Luc Nancy)

Der lächelnde Schatten

NP: Shostakovich Violin Sonata in G major, Op. 134

"To send light into the darkness of men's hearts - such is the duty of the artist." ― Robert Schumann

Der lächelnde Schatten

Quote from: VonStupp on June 23, 2025, 10:46:47 AMJean Sibelius
Symphony no. 1 in E minor, op. 39
NYPO - Leonard Bernstein

It has been a while since I have heard from Bernstein and NY; they certainly hit Sibelius' first symphony with a raw energy. A divisive approach, perhaps?

I usually don't get to these types of sets before they are off the market, but managed to snag this one. I see it is going anywhere from $100-$600 US on Amazon and Discogs.
VS



From this set:



Quote from: Karl Henning on June 23, 2025, 12:04:47 PMOh, I haven't listened in an age, and you indirectly urge me to rectify that!

Bernstein's Sibelius on Columbia (Sony) is excellent. I don't own that set that @VonStupp owns, but I have all of Bernstein's in The Royal Edition issues, which sound quite good (to my ears).
"To send light into the darkness of men's hearts - such is the duty of the artist." ― Robert Schumann

Henk

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Quote from: Karl Henning on June 23, 2025, 10:10:12 AMBy the by, if this whole circle jerk between those two turns on my use of "classic" being a supposedly empty statement that I like the recording? Guess what? This thread is about sharing what one is listening to, and we all of us chime in with "I like that, too." Might as well complain that the bubbler in the hallway yields water and not beer.

You're offensive, Karl. You're seeking support from others and publicly try to exclude me and another member in something that's in fact a very minor issue.

I'm trying to learn. I was a bit bored and your post striked me interest. I wasn't all too sincere. That's something I can learn from, so I don't mind how it turned out. But I think it's reasonable to respond to you now after my personal reflections.

I'm trying to hold this community together. We can heal, but if that intention isn't there, it's useless and it's probably not worth the effort.
'The 'I' is not prior to the 'we'.' (Jean-Luc Nancy)

Mister Sharpe

There are some composers who exercise a particular fascination for me, Ysaÿe is one of those. Foreign composers who stay for a long period in the U.S. are always of special interest (from 1918-22 he was music director of the Cincinnati Symphony Orchestra). Of course, I love his violin sonatas. Also, his name has umlauts, an added attraction!


 
"It's often said it's better to be sharp than flat," when discussing tuning instruments.

JBS

Quote from: Der lächelnde Schatten on June 23, 2025, 01:30:39 PMBernstein's Sibelius on Columbia (Sony) is excellent. I don't own that set that @VonStupp owns, but I have all of Bernstein's in The Royal Edition issues, which sound quite good (to my ears).

The set has one quirk because it's original jacket format: it includes a work not by Sibelius and not conducted by Bernstein--a Bruch violin concerto conducted by Schippers. (It's coupled with the Sibelius Concerto, which Bernstein did conduct.) It also has a recording of the Peer Gynt Suite but at least that's conducted by Bernstein.

Hollywood Beach Broadwalk

Symphonic Addict

Montsalvatge: Cuarteto Indiano, for string quartet (Quartet Talia)

The current annihilation of a people on this planet (you know which one it is) is the most documented and at the same time the most preposterously denied.

Henk

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Quote from: Der lächelnde Schatten on June 23, 2025, 11:17:20 AMClassic is a merely complimentary word and is meant as praise. Anyone who takes that out-of-context to criticize or bemoan someone else for using it should really get over themselves.

It's an ambivalent word of praise imo. That ambivalence just struck me. Did I do harm with it? No.

To quote Karl once again, his original argument, changing to the opposite opinion later fastly:

Quote from: Karl Henning on June 22, 2025, 12:40:58 PMIt is a superb account of core repertory. That is enough.

John backs Karl, while Karl originary argued exactly the opposite way. That was exactly the ambivalent meaning I was argueing about in the first place. John and Karl turn it into something purely political without reason.

Karl didn't understand my question, so I repeated it in different words. Then Sergii entered the discussion and Karl got unreasonable. Sergii didn't even respond to Karl directly. Karl then began to write in terms like 'those two'. I hadn't even a discussion with Sergii. What is Karl thinking? A complot against him, against GMG? Always the same Russian music feud Karl can't get over.
'The 'I' is not prior to the 'we'.' (Jean-Luc Nancy)

Symphonic Addict

Hindemith: Das Unaufhörliche

The current annihilation of a people on this planet (you know which one it is) is the most documented and at the same time the most preposterously denied.

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

DavidW

Quote from: Der lächelnde Schatten on June 23, 2025, 01:30:39 PMBernstein's Sibelius on Columbia (Sony) is excellent. I don't own that set that @VonStupp owns, but I have all of Bernstein's in The Royal Edition issues, which sound quite good (to my ears).

I had the set pre the Royal remaster. I remember the older set being a bit noisy. I should give them a fresh listen. Great performances!

Henk

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Quote from: AnotherSpin on June 23, 2025, 11:48:38 AMHenk, I'm sorry you keep spending your energy on this — you won't be heard.

Wanted to make the analysis. Seems you really hurted some members about Russian music. They take it far too personal. I don't think they ever get over it. I wrote something critical about Shostakovich' music, Karl really can't stand it argueing 'those two', meaning you and me.
'The 'I' is not prior to the 'we'.' (Jean-Luc Nancy)

Baxcalibur

Bruckner: Symphony No. 8 (1890, ed. Nowak)
Cleveland Orchestra
George Szell

(I listened on YouTube, where they've inserted the LP cover and all the LP images on Discogs are blurry)



I think I've found Brucknerian heaven. Power, clarity, discipline, it's all here. There's one moment that really stands out: Szell reins in the trumpets in the coda, allowing the horns to clearly blast out the scherzo theme, before letting them return to the fore to conclude the symphony.

Now, this is coming from someone whose favorite Bruckner symphony is the 6th, so feel free to take this with a grain of salt.

Symphonic Addict

Quote from: Karl Henning on June 23, 2025, 03:30:20 PMI need to listen to that again!

A very impressive work to say the least.
The current annihilation of a people on this planet (you know which one it is) is the most documented and at the same time the most preposterously denied.

Der lächelnde Schatten

NP: Feldman Cello and Orchestra



Hauntingly beautiful.
"To send light into the darkness of men's hearts - such is the duty of the artist." ― Robert Schumann