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prémont

Quote from: JBS on July 29, 2025, 08:55:44 AMBut Bach expected performers to embellish and take liberties. So perhaps "Bach alone" is not truly Bach.

We don't know much about what Bach himself expected. But we can see from his scores that the ornamentation very often is written into the music. And in the harpsichord- and organ music there is hardly an occasion for much ornamentation other than cadence trills and alike. In all cases it must be done with the outmost discretion.
Reality trumps our fantasy far beyond imagination.

prémont

Quote from: AnotherSpin on July 29, 2025, 09:32:34 AMAt times, Bach is played as though he were simply a vehicle for the performer's self-expression.

Yes, indeed. We tell no names.  :)
Reality trumps our fantasy far beyond imagination.

ritter

Yan Pascal Tortelier conducts the BBC Philharmonic in Hindemith's Symphonia Serena and the Symphony "Die Harmonie der Welt".

 « Et n'oubliez pas que le trombone est à Voltaire ce que l'optimisme est à la percussion. » 

Florestan

Quote from: Brian on July 29, 2025, 06:41:09 AMSpending my morning in Brazil with the piano music of Fernandez and Guarnieri.



(Qobuz uploaded the wrong cover art; the Guarnieri is a full 70-minute recital, not a single piece.)

I am tempted by both. How would you describe them?
"Ja, sehr komisch, hahaha,
ist die Sache, hahaha,
drum verzeihn Sie, hahaha,
wenn ich lache, hahaha! "

AnotherSpin


Brian

Quote from: Florestan on July 29, 2025, 10:08:41 AMI am tempted by both. How would you describe them?
I would describe them both as loads of fun! There is a complete Guarnieri set on Naxos across two CDs, so Jones is essentially choosing his favorite half of the music. The Fernandez was really really good. The three Brazilian suites were very "pops" and colorful. The Sonata Breve had a ton of energy. The big surprise was a gorgeous romantic early nocturne (Op. 3) at the very end.

Florestan

Quote from: Brian on July 29, 2025, 10:21:56 AMI would describe them both as loads of fun! There is a complete Guarnieri set on Naxos across two CDs, so Jones is essentially choosing his favorite half of the music. The Fernandez was really really good. The three Brazilian suites were very "pops" and colorful. The Sonata Breve had a ton of energy. The big surprise was a gorgeous romantic early nocturne (Op. 3) at the very end.

Thanks. Sounds right up my alley. Will pull the trigger.
"Ja, sehr komisch, hahaha,
ist die Sache, hahaha,
drum verzeihn Sie, hahaha,
wenn ich lache, hahaha! "

Linz

Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart Divertimento in E-Flat Major, K. 166
Divertimento in B-Flat Major, K. 186
Divertimento in E-Flat Major, K. Anh. 226
Divertimento in B-Flat Major, K. Anh. 227
Martin van de Merwe; Irma Kort; Johann Steinmann; Remco De Vries; Hans Wisse; Jos Buurman

Brian

Quote from: Florestan on July 29, 2025, 10:23:55 AMThanks. Sounds right up my alley. Will pull the trigger.
If you do not have the Naxos disc with Guarnieri concertos 1/2/3 that is a must. 1 and 2 are Gershwin level successes and 3 is more like if a Bartok concerto was in the jungle. Amazing stuff.

Florestan

Quote from: Brian on July 29, 2025, 10:37:00 AMIf you do not have the Naxos disc with Guarnieri concertos 1/2/3 that is a must. 1 and 2 are Gershwin level successes and 3 is more like if a Bartok concerto was in the jungle. Amazing stuff.

I think I might have them. If I'm mistaken, I'll rectify the situation.
"Ja, sehr komisch, hahaha,
ist die Sache, hahaha,
drum verzeihn Sie, hahaha,
wenn ich lache, hahaha! "

AnotherSpin


Toni Bernet




Between 1849 and 1853, Liszt completed Harmonies poétiques et religieuses, a cycle of piano pieces based on poems by Lamartine and texts from the Catholic liturgy. As musicologists are increasingly pointing out today, the entire cycle has a spiritual dramaturgy that is intended to lead to a religiously relivable transformation from suffering to joy.

More about the Andante lagrimoso and the final Cantique d'amour see:

https://www.discoveringsacredmusic.ch/19th-century/liszt-harmonies


Linz

Anton Bruckner Symphony No. 5 in B Flat Major, 1878 Version Ed. Robert Haas
Manchner Philarmoniker, Gunter Wand


Lisztianwagner

#133393
Alexander Scriabin
Symphony No.1

Alisa Kolosova, Alexey Dolgov, Oslo Philharmonic Choir
Vasily Petrenko & Oslo Philharmonic Orchestra


"You cannot expect the Form before the Idea, for they will come into being together." - Arnold Schönberg

Florestan

#133394
Quote from: Lisztianwagner on July 29, 2025, 11:50:58 AMAlexander Scriabin
Symphony No.1

Vasily Petrenko & Oslo Philharmonic Orchestra




No singers and no choir credited on the cover? Strange...
"Ja, sehr komisch, hahaha,
ist die Sache, hahaha,
drum verzeihn Sie, hahaha,
wenn ich lache, hahaha! "

Lisztianwagner

Quote from: Florestan on July 29, 2025, 12:07:39 PMNo singers and no choir credited on the cover? Strange...
Sorry I haven't written them, they're Alisa Kolosova, Alexey Dolgov with the Oslo Philharmonic Choir.
"You cannot expect the Form before the Idea, for they will come into being together." - Arnold Schönberg

Florestan

Quote from: Lisztianwagner on July 29, 2025, 12:10:44 PMSorry I haven't written them, they're Alisa Kolosova, Alexey Dolgov with the Oslo Philharmonic Choir.

Oh, my comment was not addressed at you, Ilaria. My point was that they should have been credited on the cover.  ;)
"Ja, sehr komisch, hahaha,
ist die Sache, hahaha,
drum verzeihn Sie, hahaha,
wenn ich lache, hahaha! "

Brian



What the heck...singing in English  ;D

Some performance practices have aged worse than others, I suppose!

Linz

Johann Christian Bach Symphonie Concertante in E major with Two Violins, Cello and Flute Soli
Symphonie Concertante in E-flat major with Two Clarinets, Bassoon, Two Horns and Orchestra
Symphonie Concertante in A major with Violin and Cello Soli
The Hanover Band, Anthony Halstead

VonStupp

Anton Bruckner
Symphony 2 in C minor, WAB 102 (Haas/Nowak)

Chicago SO - Sir Georg Solti
Berlin PO - Herbert von Karajan


VS

All the good music has already been written by people with wigs and stuff. - Frank Zappa

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