Quiz: Mystery scores

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lukeottevanger

Quote from: Sforzando on July 06, 2008, 03:29:23 PM
Then, I'm afraid, what you have is of no commercial value. But it would be worth while to track down those originals, and I'm not speaking only or even primarily of their monetary worth. They could add to our understanding of the composer.

Yes, I know what I have is worthless, financially speaking, though it means something to me as a reminder of my family history. However, I don't think it's necessary to track down the originals (impossible, I would say) to learn something from the letters. As you've probably seen, this one, and the other one from Strauss, are almost undecipherable*, but my great aunt did manage to do so and made a transcription which I must get my hands on.

*though it's easy to pick out a few words - Haydn's D dur quartet, Beethoven op 127, Rosé (Buxbaum was member of the Rosé Quartet), Mozart's g moll quintett, Boosey + Hawkes, London, and Metamorphosen (which in a moment of absent-mindedness Strauss describes as for 24 solo strings!). The general tone of the letter as far as I recall it is 1) reminiscences of hearing Buxbaum and the Rosé play in happier times and then 2) discussing business matters pertaining to publishers etc.

lukeottevanger

Quote from: Jezetha on July 06, 2008, 10:11:45 AM
Yes, I listened to the Faust Triptych a few weeks ago, but only the once... I didn't know it was a transcription. It'll be interesting to compare the two works (I have the piano piece too, on CD).

# 303 Cage - Song Books?

# 320 Anthony Philip Heinrich - A Chromatic Ramble (1820)

You and your edits, Johan! Could easily miss them, you know!  Yes, the Cage is from his Songbooks (volume 2, number 84)

And yes on the Heinrich too, the Bohemian-born 'Beethoven of Kentucky' - how did you get it? Full title is 'A Chromatic Ramble of the Peregrine Harmonist.' Heinrich's most famous composition (at least by name) is 'The Dawning of Music in Kentucky; or, The Pleasures of Harmony in the Solitudes of Nature' a 269 page compliation containing 46 works. H Wiley Hitchcock said of it that it 'certainly must be the most extraordinary Opus 1 in the history of music.'

lukeottevanger

#3282
Doing so well, we need this TTT again already

First list, in two parts:
Part one
and
Part two

Second list (one long part)

New list:

Set by Luke
293 - Tchaikovsky - Festival Overture on the Danish National Anthem - (Sforzando)
294 - Tovey - Piano Concerto - (Johan)
295 - Wagner - Fantasy in F# minor - (Sforzando)
296 - Wagner-Wolf - Paraphrase über "Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg" - (Johan)
297 - Valen - Piano Sonata no 2 - (Johan)
298 - ? -
299 - Wolf-Ferrari - Violin Sonata in A minor - (Sforzando)
300 - Theo Ysaye - Piano Concerto op 9 - (Johan)
301 - Tchaikovsky - Piano Concerto no 2 - (revealed by Luke)
302 - Tchaikovsky - The Tempest - (Sforzando)
303 - Cage - from Songbooks - (Johan)
304 - Busoni - Concerto for piano and strings op 17 - (Johan)
305 - ? -
306 - Beethoven - Adagio (mandolin/piano) - (Sforzando)
307 - Berg - Four pieces for clarinet and piano - (Sforzando)
308 - Arensky - Piano Trio no 1 - (Sforzando)
309 - Antheil - Sonata no 2 'The Airplane' - (Greg)
310 - ? -
311 - Berstein - Wonderful Town - (Sforzando)
312 - Barber - Hesitation Tango - (Guido)
313 - Carpenter - Krazy Kat - (Sforzando)
314 - Bax - Harp Quintet - (Guido)
315 - Berg - Abschied - (Johan)
316 - Bernstein - La Bonne Cuisine - (Sforzando)
317 - Bruckner - Christus factus est pro nobis - (Johan)
318 - ? -
319 - ? -
320 - Heinrich - A Chromatic Ramble of the Peregrine Harmonist - (Johan)
321 - Lili Boulanger - Vielle priere bouddhique - (Johan)
322 - ? -
323 - ? -
324 - ? -
325 - ? -
326 - Prokofiev - Classical Symphony - (Sforzando)
327 - Shostakovich - Fugue in D flat major (from the 24) - (Sforzando)
328 - Sibelius - Symphony no 3 - (Mark)
329  - Copland - Piano Fantasy - (Sforzando)
330 - Stevenson - Prelude, Fugue and Fantasy on Busoni's Faust - (Johan)
331 - Musgrave - Narcissus - (Johan)
332 - ? -
333 - Schubert - G major quartet - (Sforzando)
334 - Nielsen - Flute Concerto - (Johan)
335 - Haydn - Farewell Symphony - (Sforzando)
336 - Elgar - Gerontius - (Johan)
337 - Dukas - L'Aprenti Sorcier - (Sforzando)
338 - Strauss - Die Frau ohne Schatten - (Sforzando)
339 - Berlioz - Harold in Italy - (Sforzando)
340 - Stravinsky - Threni - (Sforzando)
341 - Schoenberg - Gurrelieder - (Johan)
342 - Kodaly - ? = (Johan)
343 - Berlioz - Romeo et Juliette - (Sforzando)
344 - ? -
345 - ? -


Set by Greta
1 - Berio - Sequenza IXb - (Luke)
2 - Dallapiccola - Quaderno musicale di Annalibera - (Luke)
3 - Stravinsky - Petrouchka - (Luke)
4 - Brahms - op 119/3 - (Luke)
5 - Adams - Harmonielehre - (Luke)
6 - Sibelius - Kullervo - (Luke)
7 - Grainger - Lincolnshire Posy - (Chrone)

Set by Chrone:
4 - Rogers - Guadalcanal March - (Mark)
5 - Hermann - Vertigo - (Luke)

Set by Sforzando
49 - Faure - Violin Sonata no 2 - (Luke)
50 - Sullivan - The Mikado - (Mark)
51 - Schutz - Ich ruf zu dir - (Luke)
52 - Puccini - La Rondine - (Luke)
53 - Puccini - Messa di Gloria - (Luke)
54 - Prokofiev - Piano Concerto 4 - (Luke)
55 - Peter Susser - Quatre Bêtises - (revealed by Sforzando)
56 - Copland - 8 Dickinson Songs - (Luke)
57 - Hindemith - The Four Temperaments - (Luke)
58 - Bernstein - Songfest - (Luke)
59 - Bernstein - Songfest - (Luke)
60 - Grieg - Slatter - (Luke)
61 - Beethoven - Kakadu Variations (Luke)
62 - Beethoven - Fugue for string quintet - (Luke)
63 - Prokofiev - Overture on Hebrew Themes - (Mark)
64 - Hindemith - Der Schwanendreher - (Luke)
65 - Verdi - Quartet - (Luke)
66 - Sullivan - Cox and Box - (Luke)
67 - Bernstein - Candide - (Luke)
68 - Sondheim - A Little Night Music - (Luke)
69 - Gershwin - An American in Paris - (Luke)
70 - Egge - Symphony no 3 (Louisville) - (Luke)
71 - Butterworth - A Shropshire Lad (Luke)
72 - Falla - El retabloe de Maese Pedro - (Luke)
73 - Wolf-Ferrari - IL segreto di Susanna - (Luke)
74 - Beethoven - Ah, perfido - (Johan)
75 - Berlioz - La Mort de Cleopatre - (Luke)
76 - Boyce - Symphony no 1 - (Luke)


Clues to Luke's remaining ones

J.Z. Herrenberg

Quote from: lukeottevanger on July 06, 2008, 10:57:04 PM
You and your edits, Johan! Could easily miss them, you know! 

In future I'll write a new post. Oh, I'm so frugal...  0:)
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

lukeottevanger

336 and 341 are very famous, by the way. I don't doubt that everyone on this thread knows at least one of them, and most of us probably both.

J.Z. Herrenberg

# 336 Elgar, Gerontius... Isn't it?
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

lukeottevanger

 ;D

Or rather  >:D  and   0:)

lukeottevanger

Specifically the point where Elgar instructs his forces to unleash all possible power, as the Soul comes face to face for a moment with God.

Truly multi-dimensional stuff....

J.Z. Herrenberg

# 342, Bartók, presumably.
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

lukeottevanger

What does the clue say? - 'no, no him, the other one'  ;D

J.Z. Herrenberg

Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

lukeottevanger

Fair zipping along now  :)

Need some new ones soon...  >:D

lukeottevanger

I will admit that they're getting trickier now, except 341. But my clues ought to be helpful. And they're less cryptic than Sforzando's  0:)


(except the one for 298)

J.Z. Herrenberg

Well, this zipping is stopping as my dear wife wants to get behind this computer...

Btw # 341 - that's a very big orchestra. At first glance I'd say something by Strauss, but as the composers must come from the beginning of the alphabet...

And now I have to leave you for a short while!
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

lukeottevanger

Quote from: Jezetha on July 07, 2008, 02:42:06 AM
Well, this zipping is stopping as my dear wife wants to get behind this computer...

Btw # 341 - that's a very big orchestra. At first glance I'd say something by Strauss, but as the composers must come from the beginning of the alphabet...

And now I have to leave you for a short while!

Ah - sorry, sorry - the batch that this one came from aren't beginning of the alphabet (which is why we've had Stravinsky, Strauss, Schubert, Nielsen, Haydn, Stevenson etc mixed in with Berlioz and Copland) . That 'beginning of the alphabet; thing only applies to 305, 310 and 318 of the ones which are left. And 298 is the last of the 'end of the alphabet' scores. The others come from any old where.

It is a big orchestra, isn't it. A pertinent point.

J.Z. Herrenberg

#3295
I don't recognise 341. But what I can deduce is - it's late Romantic, it's German/Austrian probably, but it's not Mahler. It isn't Strauss. Could be Schoenberg's Gurre-Lieder (which I don't know yet...  :-[ )...
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

lukeottevanger

Oh, you're very good - if, as you say, you don't know it, that is! Those of you who do know it should be ashamed of yourselves! ;D ;D ;D :P :P :P >:D >:D >:D

Yes, this is the manic orchestral postlude to the song of Klaus-Narr, one of many highlights in a score full of highlights. You owe it to yourself to hear this piece, Johan - it suddenly strikes me that one who loves Suk's Summer Tale will certainly love Gurrelieder too.

J.Z. Herrenberg

Quote from: lukeottevanger on July 07, 2008, 03:31:18 AM
Oh, you're very good - if, as you say, you don't know it, that is! Those of you who do know it should be ashamed of yourselves! ;D ;D ;D :P :P :P >:D >:D >:D

Yes, this is the manic orchestral postlude to the song of Klaus-Narr, one of many highlights in a score full of highlights. You owe it to yourself to hear this piece, Johan - it suddenly strikes me that one who loves Suk's Summer Tale will certainly love Gurrelieder too.

Yes, stupid, isn't it... ! Well, my eMusic subscription has just been renewed...
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

lukeottevanger

Make it top of your pile is my advice - this is a major work which you need to know.

J.Z. Herrenberg

Quote from: lukeottevanger on July 07, 2008, 03:44:14 AM
Make it top of your pile is my advice - this is a major work which you need to know.

The Force is strong in you, Master Luke.
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato