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Mark

Senta, I'm with you now. ;)

And thanks. :)

SonicMan46

#501
Folks, please explain to me - Don is now listed as a 'guest' & he no longer appears in the 'members list' - has he decided to quit the GMG Forum?  I've always enjoyed his comments & opinions - any answers?   :(

Que

#502
Quote from: SonicMan on September 15, 2008, 05:05:16 PM
Folks, please explain to me - Don is now listed as a 'guest' & he no longer appears in the 'members list' - has he decided to quit the GMG Forum?  I've always enjoyed his comments & opinions - any answers?   :(

Yes Dave, he decided to leave - very much to my regret as well. See HERE.

Q

Harry


ezodisy

Quote from: Harry on September 15, 2008, 10:51:06 PM
Another victim alas. :P

Something that would go against what Don espoused, i.e. there are no victims here, it's a person's choice to stay or go. As usual you are distorting things.

What I find more disturbing is that some moderators feel compelled to delete threads for the sake of one person who has a terrible victim mentality. That's rather pathetic.

mahler10th

QuoteWhat I find more disturbing is that some moderators feel compelled to delete threads for the sake of one person who has a terrible victim mentality. That's rather pathetic.

The words of someone so 'disturbed' have little value. 
What a shame such quality (Don) has gone for political reasons.  I have read the 'reason' he left (thanks Que), and like M, I am not much of an American Foreign Policy lover either.  But there is such thing as repect and diplomacy, human qualities that must be developed for conflict resolution, and they are sadly absent in M's diatribe.
Haste ye back Don.  :(

Harry

Quote from: ezodisy on September 15, 2008, 11:03:10 PM
Something that would go against what Don espoused, i.e. there are no victims here, it's a person's choice to stay or go. As usual you are distorting things.

What I find more disturbing is that some moderators feel compelled to delete threads for the sake of one person who has a terrible victim mentality. That's rather pathetic.

After all what happened, it really surprises me, that the vehemence with which you ventilate your grudges, and filled the thread with venom, makes me wondering what kind of a person you must be. If you are not able to see, that there are victims suffering from this venom, than you clearly must be a distributor of it, for I find no compassion in your behavior and words, but simply loathing of me, and many others on this board. I think we are all allowed to say what we think, and this will be the only thing I say about the subject. Distorting is not my trade Ezodizy, if there is distorting, it clearly comes from yourself.
It is well that the moderators correct whatever mischief there is, and the greatest mischief of them all is, war mongering, and the instruments are called agitators. I perceive you to be one of them.

Note to the moderators. If you think this post is offensive that please let me know, and I will modify the text.

ezodisy

Quote from: Harry on September 15, 2008, 11:58:44 PM
but simply loathing of me

You call it loathing when I point out that you are calling Don exactly what he disavowed?

By the way, it's called indifference, not loathing. I would guess that most people, like me, don't care about you, at all, and could not be bothered to loathe what is best disregarded.

The new erato

Quote from: ezodisy on September 16, 2008, 12:56:38 AM
I would guess that most people, like me, don't care about you,
Your own opinion is one thing, but please DO NOT make a spokesperson of yourself. Only makes me suspect that you are out to make damage instead of actually discussing.

ezodisy

Quote from: erato on September 16, 2008, 01:01:48 AM
Your own opinion is one thing, but please DO NOT make a spokesperson of yourself. Only makes me suspect that you are out to make damage instead of actually discussing.

Discussing what, exactly, erato? Discussing that the moderators have, once again, removed an absolutely harmless thread because a couple of sensitive posters felt victimised? Do you wish for this forum to turn into a censored board where every objectionable post or thread is removed after one of our little numpties decides it doesn't fit with his approval? Or would it meet with your approval to usher in another period of samizdat where we all communicate our opinions by private message and leave the board only for factual objective posts? I'm surprised that our international moderators would continue to do something so naive and ultimately pernicious as that of removing opinionated posts and threads. Donwyn's silly little comment about malice doesn't hold any water when you consider that it was George who urged the moderators to punish any member who met with his disapproval. If that's not malice then obviously Donwyn lives in some sort of twilight zone which I want no part of.

The new erato

Quote from: ezodisy on September 16, 2008, 01:11:05 AM
Discussing what, exactly, erato? Discussing that the moderators have, once again, removed an absolutely harmless thread because a couple of sensitive posters felt victimised?
Yes please discuss that. I have no problem with disagreement, but prefer that to be concerning subject matter, and not turn into personal characterization which it too often does on this site (and this site is far worse than 5-6 other sites I follow in various subject matters).

I do not know right from wrong in the actual matter, as I have not followed the actual case(s) you are referring to, and have neither complained to the moderators about other member's posts, or vice versa. I DO find, however, Harrys postings occasionally both interesting and valuable (not least for alerting me to corners of the perpertoire I might want to explore further) , and react to your tendency to speak for other in that particular post. People here are fulle able to speak for themself, and that is not a tendency that should be encouraged.

ezodisy

Quote from: erato on September 16, 2008, 01:22:11 AM
People here are fulle able to speak for themself, and that is not a tendency that should be encouraged.

I agree, but this is a special case. Most people--here I go again--know that people with victim mentalities live with the fallacy that most of the world is against them. I was hoping to point out to Harry, who fits the profile, that most of the world truly doesn't care about him. That would be hard to deny. Yet amazingly some do it, and we've got a few of them on this forum. The negative and deplorable part comes when the "authorities" start to concede certain liberties to these people. It starts out with a certain compassionate understanding and quickly runs out of control, as it's starting to with the almost wanton removal of posts and threads just for a couple of sour individuals who appear incapable of discussing without screaming "abuse!" at every other person. The question is why these people even bother to post in the diner if they don't want to discuss subjects.

The new erato

Quote from: ezodisy on September 16, 2008, 01:35:34 AM
I was hoping to point out to Harry, who fits the profile, that most of the world truly doesn't care about him.
Yes, that is true about most of us. (and if we were really important, we wouldn't have time to post here, anyway). 

George

To clarify what I am proposing, I suggest members read the truth using the link below. Please vote if you have an opinion on this matter. Unfortunately, I have had to lock the thread, due the incessant attacking and fighting that currently plagues this board.

http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,9068.0.html


Catison

#514
I have found it necessary to leave the board occasionally, although I haven't deleted my account because of it.  At those times, I was amazed by how good classical music writing could be, e.g. reading The Rest Is Noise by Alex Ross, and how sensible the whole subject could be discussed.  Like it or not, a music forum is seldom the best place to find sensible discussion.  That is just reality.

EDIT: have doesn't equal haven't, oops
-Brett

karlhenning

Quote from: Catison on September 16, 2008, 04:08:47 AM
I have found it necessary to leave the board occasionally, although I have deleted my account because of it.  At those times, I was amazed by how good classical music writing could be, e.g. reading The Rest Is Noise by Alex Ross, and how sensible the whole subject could be discussed.  Like it or not, a music forum is seldom the best place to find sensible discussion.  That is just reality.

Which is why the NYTimes fora will be mourned;  the Classical Music forum there enjoyed an unusually high reward::noise ratio.


Philoctetes

Quote from: George on September 16, 2008, 03:19:05 AM
To clarify what I am proposing, I suggest members read the truth using the link below. Please vote if you have an opinion on this matter. Unfortunately, I have had to lock the thread, due the incessant attacking and fighting that currently plagues this board.

http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,9068.0.html



Go spurt your spam elsewhere.

ChamberNut

It looks like Mark has left also, again.  :-\

George

Quote from: ChamberNut on September 16, 2008, 04:33:02 AM
It looks like Mark has left also, again.  :-\

This is sad news indeed.

Add me to the list.

Sean

Censorship is basically wrong, but as for membership and non-membership we're all in the same blurred ghostly indeterminate, inescapable digital sea...