Any piece that you have lots of recordings of but still not completely happy?

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hornteacher

Quote from: SimonGodders on May 21, 2007, 08:52:43 AM
The big one for me has always been Beethoven's piano concerto's. Never seem happy with them, have shipped in/out quite a lot over the years.

For 5, currently have Van Cliburn and Fischer (pretty chuffed with these TBH)
For 4, Bronfman
For 3 Gilels (live Orfeo) and Bronfman
And for 1, have Richter

Glad you mentioned that.  I've looking in vain for a cycle and thought something must be wrong with me if I can't find a good LvB PC cycle.

My favorite CD is Kissen (but he has not recorded #1, #3, or #4 as of yet).

Mozart

Beethovens 9th!

I have a lot of recordings but Im still not happy with the piece!

George

Quote from: Mozart on May 21, 2007, 02:55:45 PM
Beethovens 9th!

I have a lot of recordings but Im still not happy with the piece!

Fricsay,

Karajan '62,

Karajan '77


PerfectWagnerite

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on May 21, 2007, 01:58:14 PM
You might consider Karajan's '77 Berlin recording. It was a Grand Prix du Disque winner and comes highly recommended by several British critics, including Ivan March who says, "Both soloists sing with eloquence. What is especially appealing is the beautifully recorded contribution of the Vienna Singverein, full and well focused (just sample the grave 'Denn alles Fleisch, es ist wie Gras' – so well balanced with the orchestra)."


Sarge

Say no more Sarge, those criteria alone disqualify it from being a good recording. ;D

Holden

Cheers

Holden

Brian

1. Tchaikovsky's Serenade for Strings
2. Rimsky-Korsakov's Scheherazade
3. Dvorak's Symphony No. 7

chrisg


Berlioz Symphonie Fantastique.

If only they'd let me conduct...

cg

BorisG

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on May 21, 2007, 01:58:14 PM
You might consider Karajan's '77 Berlin recording. It was a Grand Prix du Disque winner and comes highly recommended by several British critics, including Ivan March who says, "Both soloists sing with eloquence. What is especially appealing is the beautifully recorded contribution of the Vienna Singverein, full and well focused (just sample the grave 'Denn alles Fleisch, es ist wie Gras' – so well balanced with the orchestra)."

It's budget priced too: check it out here at Amazon.UK

Sarge

I like that one too. 1976 recording.

Daverz

Gliere, Ilya Murometz.  Rakhlin might be the best (I have a transfer from Lp; don't remember who did it off the top of my head).  Stokowski is very good for what it is, a chopped to bit version of the score.  Of course, some people think the music is shit anyway.

BorisG

Quote from: PerfectWagnerite on May 21, 2007, 08:38:19 AM
For me it's Mahler's 9th - for some reason I am still not completely happy with all my recordings. Trying to find one that is sonically stunning, that captures the quietness of the opening pages and the subsequent eruptive power, plus the stillness of the closing pages.

Do you have any other pieces that you feel the same way?

Yes, but they are dwindling. Most recent examples, Berezovsky Khachaturian piano concerto, Pisarev Mendelssohn piano concerti, Abbado Mahler 8, McAslin and MacGregor Britten violin and piano concerti, Perenyi Hindemith cello concerto, Joo Kodaly orchestral works, Kulka Penderecki violin concerto 1, Postnikova Schnittke piano concerto, R. Strauss Ashkenazy Ein Heldenleben, Leinsdorf Le Bourgeois Gentilhomme and Dance suite from keyboard pieces by Francois Couperin, Zinman Sinfonia Domestica, Parergon.

Daverz

Quote from: brianrein on May 21, 2007, 06:48:00 PM
1. Tchaikovsky's Serenade for Strings
2. Rimsky-Korsakov's Scheherazade
3. Dvorak's Symphony No. 7

What do conductors get wrong in those?  My favorite of the Serenade is Barbirolli/Philharmonia.

val

JS BACH: Mathews Passion. I have Harnoncourt I and II, Jochum, Leonhardt, Herreweghe, not mentioning those I had in LP (Klemperer, Wöldicke, Richter) but I am not completely happy with none of them. I prefer Harnoncourt I and Jochum, but I am still waiting for the "VERSION".

Regarding Brahms 3rd Symphony I had an ideal version in LP, Böhm with the VPO in a mono version from the fifties. But I cannot find it in CD.

Harry Collier

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on May 21, 2007, 01:22:27 PM
Glad you stepped in, Premont. After reading Harry C's post I was about to repeat myself. Now I don't have to  :)

Sarge

Actually, I agree 95%; Klemperer is pretty well ideal. I still find the Ländler a bit extreme in tempo. Maybe I'd better join everyone else and change "Beethoven 6th" to "Beethoven 9th".

I don't dare tell anyone on this board, but I have just proudly taken delivery of Klemperer's 1960 Philharmonia recording of the Bach Brandenburgs. Shush ... I'll be lynched by the harpsichord brigade.

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: PerfectWagnerite on May 21, 2007, 03:56:41 PM
Say no more Sarge, those criteria alone disqualify it from being a good recording. ;D

Believe it or not, PW, once in a blue moon Gramophone makes a good call  ;D

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Hector

Quote from: PerfectWagnerite on May 21, 2007, 08:38:19 AM
For me it's Mahler's 9th - for some reason I am still not completely happy with all my recordings. Trying to find one that is sonically stunning, that captures the quietness of the opening pages and the subsequent eruptive power, plus the stillness of the closing pages.

Do you have any other pieces that you feel the same way?

Me, too.

I have Abbado's Berlin CD on order.

The other work is Elgar's 2nd.

Lyrita have reissued Boult's coupled with the 1st on two CDs for the price of one.

I know that I will just have to buy them.



orbital

Quote from: George on May 22, 2007, 12:08:04 PM
We can delete posts now.  :-\
;D

I misread HEctor's post as if he was looking for a satisfying Elgar's Cello concerto and I recommended Fournier, but what he actually wrote was Edgar's 2nd symphony  :-[

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: Harry Collier on May 22, 2007, 02:04:12 AM
Actually, I agree 95%; Klemperer is pretty well ideal. I still find the Ländler a bit extreme in tempo.

Harry, you have to visit Bavaria or Austria sometime. The folk dance tempos are quite slow. Klemperer knew what he was doing.

Quote from: Harry Collier on May 22, 2007, 02:04:12 AM
I don't dare tell anyone on this board, but I have just proudly taken delivery of Klemperer's 1960 Philharmonia recording of the Bach Brandenburgs. Shush ... I'll be lynched by the harpsichord brigade.

I own Klemp's Bach Suites...I won't tell if you won't ;D



Sarge

the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

BachQ

Quote from: val on May 22, 2007, 01:12:25 AM
Regarding Brahms 3rd Symphony I had an ideal version in LP, Böhm with the VPO in a mono version from the fifties. But I cannot find it in CD.

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