Recordings That You Are Considering

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rubio

Again, thank you very much for taking the time to write these thorough comments, M. They have the Giulini and Sinopoli discs at my local used CD shop. I will check if that release of the Schumann 2 includes the essay by Sinopoli. It seemed to be the original release. I have the Giulini/LAPO recordings of Beethoven 3, 5 and 6 and I enjoy them all very much. They're so nicely shaped, balanced and with great woodwind playing. They belong to my absolute favourites. 
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M forever

Quote from: M forever on October 26, 2008, 10:29:33 AM
(the other one was Schubert 8)

Funny, I meant to say "Schubert 8" but the software made an  8) out of that because of the ) after the 8...

M forever

I think you will enjoy this Beethoven 9 with Giulini just as much as his LA recordings. For me, it is a nice memory in addition to being a nice recording because I went to the concert when they performed that live in Berlin. For some reason, the finale was recorded a year later. I don't remember why though. I knew, but I forgot..,
BTW, there are also Beethoven recordings with him from earlier decades, with the LSO and CSO. These are rather interesting, too.

There is also a Beethoven 9 on DG with Sinopoli and the SD which is a highly intense performance. Although rather "big" in conception and the size of the orchestra and chorus, this is a classically inclined performance with a lot of rhythmic drive, and in the first movement even "driven-ness", but also natural, unexaggerated and unmannered lyricism in the slow movement and the lyrical parts of the finale. The way the "Freude" theme appears in the finale out of the halflight is particularly sensitively and effectively done.

rubio

Quote from: M forever on October 26, 2008, 11:35:33 AM
I think you will enjoy this Beethoven 9 with Giulini just as much as his LA recordings. For me, it is a nice memory in addition to being a nice recording because I went to the concert when they performed that live in Berlin. For some reason, the finale was recorded a year later. I don't remember why though. I knew, but I forgot..,
BTW, there are also Beethoven recordings with him from earlier decades, with the LSO and CSO. These are rather interesting, too.

There is also a Beethoven 9 on DG with Sinopoli and the SD which is a highly intense performance. Although rather "big" in conception and the size of the orchestra and chorus, this is a classically inclined performance with a lot of rhythmic drive, and in the first movement even "driven-ness", but also natural, unexaggerated and unmannered lyricism in the slow movement and the lyrical parts of the finale. The way the "Freude" theme appears in the finale out of the halflight is particularly sensitively and effectively done.

It seems like the 9th is the only Beethoven symphony which is recorded under Sinopoli or are there more? I will check the 9th out sooner or later.
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Bulldog

Quote from: rubio on October 26, 2008, 01:31:10 PM
It seems like the 9th is the only Beethoven symphony which is recorded under Sinopoli or are there more? I will check the 9th out sooner or later.

Sinopoli leads Dredsen in a Beethoven 7th on DVD.

M forever

There is also a performance of the 7th which is part of the "Dreampaths of Music" DVD, a somewhat odd project which combines footage of rivers from the Rhine to the Nile with computer graphics and some passages where Sinopoli and the SD are inserted in the graphics...
He did conduct other Beethoven symphonies though, I know he did the 7th and 8th on tour with the SD, so it is possible that there are live recordings. There is also a video of the 9th in Japan which is not such a great performance - the finale features all Japanese singers and choir which is not a "problem" as such, but they sing the music in a very strange way, and the orchestra and conductor can't "save" the performance on their own... It's still not a "bad" performance but nothing which I would strongly recommend. But the DG disc of the 9th is very good. It neither "romanticizes" the music - which one might have expected from a condcutor whose main emphasis was on music from the late romantic and early modern periods (although Sinopoli did actually start in "contemporary" music) - nor does it apply fashionable "HIP"ness, it just develops the music from within, in a classically lean and straightforward concept, but with a lot of conviction and expressivity. A very good "modern" interpretation.

Opus106

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Quote from: opus67 on October 27, 2008, 09:34:40 AM
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Lethevich

What is the difference between these two - any duplication?

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Novi

 

I'm primarily interested in the Silja/Dohnányi Erwartung and see that it comes with either Dohnányi's Wozzeck or a selection of Schoenberg. Wozzeck is probably my favourite 20th century opera (I have Abbado and Böhm (Andante)), but I'd like to explore Schoenberg a bit more, so I'm undecided at the moment.

Is anyone familiar with these recordings, or indeed, are there other suggestions for Erwartung?

Cheers.
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Quote from: Novi on October 31, 2008, 05:15:22 AM
 

I'm primarily interested in the Silja/Dohnányi Erwartung and see that it comes with either Dohnányi's Wozzeck or a selection of Schoenberg. Wozzeck is probably my favourite 20th century opera (I have Abbado and Böhm (Andante)), but I'd like to explore Schoenberg a bit more, so I'm undecided at the moment.

Is anyone familiar with these recordings, or indeed, are there other suggestions for Erwartung?

Cheers.

Wasn't Jessie Normans Erwartung on Philips very highly regarded? I have it, but haven't listened to it for some years.

Drasko

Quote from: Novi on October 31, 2008, 05:15:22 AM
Is anyone familiar with these recordings, or indeed, are there other suggestions for Erwartung?

There was a guy over at r.m.c.r who has tons of recordings of Erwartung and IIRC he did post some comparisons, let me try to find the thread....here

Novi

Quote from: erato on October 31, 2008, 05:35:00 AM
Wasn't Jessie Normans Erwartung on Philips very highly regarded? I have it, but haven't listened to it for some years.

Quote from: Drasko on October 31, 2008, 05:54:58 AM
There was a guy over at r.m.c.r who has tons of recordings of Erwartung and IIRC he did post some comparisons, let me try to find the thread....here

Thanks, erato and Drasko. Wow, a fair bit of information over in r.m.c.r - I'll read it more thoroughly later tonight :).
Durch alle Töne tönet
Im bunten Erdentraum
Ein leiser Ton gezogen
Für den der heimlich lauschet.

prémont

Quote from: Lethe on October 29, 2008, 10:30:21 PM
What is the difference between these two - any duplication?



There is no duplication.

The first box contains European music (German, Italian early baroque e.g.), the second box exclusively Spanish (medieval, renaissance, baroque).
I own the Spanish box and most of the original CDs from the European box, and I must say, that both are certainly worth much more than the cost.

The performing style is often "sensational" but never-the-less almost always impressive, not quite unlike the style of the late David Munrow.
Reality trumps our fantasy far beyond imagination.

Lethevich

Quote from: premont on November 01, 2008, 04:51:47 PM
There is no duplication.

The first box contains European music (German, Italian early baroque e.g.), the second box exclusively Spanish (medieval, renaissance, baroque).
I own the Spanish box and most of the original CDs from the European box, and I must say, that both are certainly worth much more than the cost.

The performing style is often "sensational" but never-the-less almost always impressive, not quite unlike the style of the late David Munrow.

Thank you very much :) I already own the Spanish one, and now it looks as if the other is a must buy as well.
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Brahms Piano Quartets, which one should I get?

Inexpensive, desent/good performances which good sound quality is what I am after

This one:



or this one:

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Quote from: 71 dB on November 02, 2008, 06:13:52 AM
Brahms Piano Quartets, which one should I get?

Inexpensive, desent/good performances which good sound quality is what I am after

Remember this thread?  :)
Brahms Chamber Music

The Rubinstein/Guarneri Qt have been my favourites for a long time, but there's much more.

Q

prémont

Quote from: 71 dB on November 02, 2008, 06:13:52 AM
Inexpensive, decent/good performances which good sound quality is what I am after

Name me one who isn´t?
Reality trumps our fantasy far beyond imagination.

71 dB

Quote from: Que on November 02, 2008, 06:24:55 AM
Remember this thread?  :)
Brahms Chamber Music

The Rubinstein/Guarneri Qt have been my favourites for a long time, but there's much more.

Q

Thanks! Rubinstein/Guarneri Qt has only 1st and 3rd. I didn't remember that thread.
I checked it but it doesn't help me.

Quote from: premont on November 02, 2008, 07:12:00 AM
Name me one who isn´t?

Rich people can buy the best there is.  :P
Spatial distortion is a serious problem deteriorating headphone listening.
Crossfeeders reduce spatial distortion and make the sound more natural
and less tiresome in headphone listening.

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