Pettersson's Pavilion

UB · October 05, 2009, 09:54:30 AM

Which recording do you have of the 7th? My favorite is the Dorati.

jowcol · October 05, 2009, 12:13:42 PM

I've got the CPO version-- the box set. I took the plunge.

offbeat · November 29, 2009, 03:02:55 PM

Hi everyone - im completely new to Pettersson but someone on the forum did a download for the 9TH Symphony(sorry cant find thread) - anyway have been playing this on an off for past couple of weeks - it so complex and strange my question is does it take shape after a while - there are some beautiful bits but cant get a grip on the work as a whole and also is it typical from the rest of his symphonies
tks

Lethevich · November 29, 2009, 03:31:29 PM

Pettersson was formally quite strong - he does work in huge arches, but the structure is there.

The 9th is quite standard as far as his style goes, but like the rest of his later symphonies it is less accessable than nos.6-8, being in a slightly tougher idiom. Whether this was a deliberate step away from the profusion achingly beautiful melodies interspaced throughout 6-8, or just that he was no longer capable of writing quite such good music, I'm not yet sure.

some guy · November 29, 2009, 07:56:55 PM

Quote from: Lethe on November 29, 2009, 03:31:29 PMor just that he was no longer capable of writing quite such good music

I'm pretty sure it's not this!

offbeat · November 30, 2009, 02:22:20 PM

Quote from: Lethe on November 29, 2009, 03:31:29 PM
Pettersson was formally quite strong - he does work in huge arches, but the structure is there.

The 9th is quite standard as far as his style goes, but like the rest of his later symphonies it is less accessable than nos.6-8, being in a slightly tougher idiom. Whether this was a deliberate step away from the profusion achingly beautiful melodies interspaced throughout 6-8, or just that he was no longer capable of writing quite such good music, I'm not yet sure.

tks lethe - its strange every time i play it i hear something i had not heard before - like something emerging from the mist - and tks yr recommendation for 6-8 - next on my never ending list

snyprrr · November 30, 2009, 09:50:25 PM

It's 70mins. long!!!

You're going to be hearing new stuff for a while!

Enjoy!

ha, and wait til you get to 13-14, oo hoo hoo!!!

Tapio Dmitriyevich · December 01, 2009, 09:08:37 AM

The old Forum became available again, so here's the links to:

Xantus' Murrelets Pettersson Symphony reviews (cpo releases)

Symphony No. 6
Symphony No. 7
Symphony No. 8
Symphony No. 9
Symphony No. 10
Symphony No. 11
Symphony No. 13
Symphony No. 14
Symphony No. 15

offbeat · December 01, 2009, 09:24:50 AM

tks snyprrr - tks for the warning re 13 and 14 mmmm (might have to get the whole lot at this rate

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tks also to Wurstwasser - lots of detailed reviews there
not an easy composer to understand but have feeling get more out of it instead of being instantly hooked first play
$:-\$

Tapio Dmitriyevich · December 02, 2009, 01:20:27 AM

Offbeat, have you already listened to Nos. 6-8, maybe 9? You must

offbeat · December 02, 2009, 01:17:50 PM

Quote from: Wurstwasser on December 02, 2009, 01:20:27 AM
Offbeat, have you already listened to Nos. 6-8, maybe 9? You must

only 9 at moment - played quite few times and last night finally caught the beauty of the last 10 minutes -
6-8 going to buy - any recommendations ?

Grazioso · December 03, 2009, 04:07:31 AM

Quote from: offbeat on December 02, 2009, 01:17:50 PM
only 9 at moment - played quite few times and last night finally caught the beauty of the last 10 minutes -
6-8 going to buy - any recommendations ?

For 7 & 8, the Segerstam performances on BIS are preferable to those on CPO--more subtle and better sonics.

offbeat · December 03, 2009, 10:11:53 AM

Quote from: Grazioso on December 03, 2009, 04:07:31 AM
For 7 & 8, the Segerstam performances on BIS are preferable to those on CPO--more subtle and better sonics.

Tks Grazioso -look forward to hearing these - on you tube listened to last 7 minutes of 7th - similar in certain ways to 9th - rather surreal and great beauty

Grazioso · December 04, 2009, 04:02:39 AM

Quote from: offbeat on December 03, 2009, 10:11:53 AM
Tks Grazioso -look forward to hearing these - on you tube listened to last 7 minutes of 7th - similar in certain ways to 9th - rather surreal and great beauty

The 7th is probably one of his most accessible and conventionally beautiful works--the ending is particularly haunting. It also boasts an impressively subtle structure, with a strong sense of natural organic growth, as opposed to rigid formality.

Tapio Dmitriyevich · December 04, 2009, 06:58:23 AM

Quote from: offbeat on December 03, 2009, 10:11:53 AMTks Grazioso -look forward to hearing these - on you tube listened to last 7 minutes of 7th - similar in certain ways to 9th - rather surreal and great beauty

Offbeat, you are a lucky man. You haven't listened to Symphony No. 6 yet. I love that symphony as a whole. Highlights: 37:37 in the cpo release. THE Pettersson highlight, if you ask me. And as I mentioned somewhere else: "The dark side of the dark side: Allan Pettersson symphony No. 6, the finale in particular (starting at 57:40 in the cpo release)".

offbeat · December 04, 2009, 07:27:34 AM

tks again grazioso and wurtzwasser
look forward to hearing them
they said on download the ninth is longest at 70 mins
are all his symphonies around the hour mark

Tapio Dmitriyevich · December 04, 2009, 07:45:33 AM

No, there are also some shorter ones. On cpo, only 6, 9 and 13 are longer than an hour. #16 is the shortest at 24 minutes.

offbeat · December 08, 2009, 02:35:13 PM

Heard Pettersson 15th Symphony for first time today
Despite its rather bleak outlook some wonderful moments here and thats just on first hearing
Yet to hear the more popular 6 7 8 but to me the 15th sounds really special and what
a dramatic ending
Any opinions ?

J.Z. Herrenberg · December 09, 2009, 03:30:09 AM

Quote from: offbeat on December 08, 2009, 02:35:13 PM
Heard Pettersson 15th Symphony for first time today
Despite its rather bleak outlook some wonderful moments here and thats just on first hearing
Yet to hear the more popular 6 7 8 but to me the 15th sounds really special and what
a dramatic ending
Any opinions ?

My first listen to No. 15, a year ago, was an unforgettable experience. I don't know whether I was extraordinarily receptive at the time, but the music really spoke to me. I could follow every bar, like I was reading a big poem. The grandeur of the music was/is incredible. I thought - 'this follows on from late Bruckner! Bruckner went to Stockholm!'

snyprrr · December 09, 2009, 07:59:33 AM

I especially like No.11, and No.10 is in the same way, two 22min. symphonies that don't give you too much to hold on to, but keep you riveted. No.11, in particular, has a melodic line I find quite,...what word is being overused here?,...oh, yes, "haunting".

No.15,...yup.

Vandermolen seems to really like the Violin Cto, too. It's a barn burner, to be sure.

And the Viola Cto.

And the little Symphonic Movement from 1979, 11mins of echt Pettersson.

I still haven't heard No.4. Haven't heard the String Concertos 1-3. Oh, I didn't need to be reminded of that, ugh.