The sort of music you dislike

[abidoful]

or a piece you try liking-but cant!
1. late Schönberg- i tried!
2. Bergs scoring
3. Pfitzners scoring
4.the way they do Wagner
5. Webern
6. i dont get R. Schumann (is he a fish or a bird?- a piano-chamber- lied- operatic-- or symphonic composer?)

[DavidW]

Who the heck is Pfitzner anyway and why all of a sudden is everyone talking about him?

[abidoful]

Who the heck is Pfitzner anyway and why all of a sudden is everyone talking about him?

you should find out

[Sergeant Rock]

Who the heck is Pfitzner anyway and why all of a sudden is everyone talking about him?

It's Snyprr's fault...blame him 

Sarge

[Novi]

Who the heck is Pfitzner anyway and why all of a sudden is everyone talking about him?

A few years ago, when I was first getting really interested in classical music, I came across the name Palestrina and thought I'd check his work out. Somehow, I ended up with Pfitzner's Palestrina instead - the Kubelik recording with the big blue cross on the cover. Don't ask me how - sometimes I really doubt my reading comprehension skills. I listened to it once; as I recall, it was pretty tedious...

[Josquin des Prez]

1. late Schönberg- i tried!

I don't see anything in his late works that would make one bulk when compared to his earlier music, unless by late you mean everything after Verklarte Nacht.

2. Bergs scoring

Well now, some of his works are terrific in that respect. Take the Opus 6 for instance.

3. Pfitzners scoring

Agreed. Boring composer.

4.the way they do Wagner

Who are "they"?

5. Webern

He was probably the best of the lot. His music is so impeccably crafted that it can be considered the work of a genius. The only thing he lacked for a genius was the soul.

6. i dont get R. Schumann (is he a fish or a bird?- a piano-chamber- lied- operatic-- or symphonic composer?)

He was a composer of piano music and lieder. After that his music becomes highly inconsistent.

[DavidW]

I don't see anything in his late works that would make one bulk when compared to his earlier music, unless by late you mean everything after Verklarte Nacht.

Agreed.

He was probably the best of the lot. His music is so impeccably crafted that it can be considered the work of a genius. The only thing he lacked for a genius was the soul.

And agreed.

[Scarpia]

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black! 

[Josquin des Prez]

James, really. I'm not even sure why you have embarked on this pointless crusade against me, but at the very least try to debunk my arguments if they piss you off so much. All this gratuitous ad hominem is getting tiresome.

[Gurn Blanston]

James, really. I'm not even sure why you have embarked on this pointless crusade against me, but at the very least try to debunk my arguments if they piss you off so much. All this gratuitous ad hominem is getting tiresome.

Yes, James. Seriously, do back off the ad hominem a bit, please. Even things that we have reached a consensus on still get damned tedious when they are continually sounded out. Plus, it's against the rules.



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Listening to:
Concerto Köln - Rosetti Mur A28 Sinfonia  in Eb 2nd mvmt - Menuet: Allegretto - Trio - Menuet

[DavidW]

Sarge, Novi, abidoful it sounds like recing Pfitzner must be the classical music equivalent of Rick rolling.

[Szykneij]

With all the great music that exists (at least some of which everyone here must enjoy or they wouldn't bother joining the forum in the first place), why do posters feel the need to start negative threads like this one that invariably end in insults and bitter feelings? There is way too much music that I enjoy for me to be bothered arguing against music that doesn't appeal to me. Posting in a thread that deals with "what is the worst", "what don't you like", "what's the most boring", etc. is sure to offend someone, and rarely results in any meaningful discussion.

[greg]

James, really. I'm not even sure why you have embarked on this pointless crusade against me, but at the very least try to debunk my arguments if they piss you off so much. All this gratuitous ad hominem is getting tiresome.

Cat fight!

*munches popcorn

[Josquin des Prez]

With all the great music that exists (at least some of which everyone here must enjoy or they wouldn't bother joining the forum in the first place), why do posters feel the need to start negative threads like this one that invariably end in insults and bitter feelings? There is way too much music that I enjoy for me to be bothered arguing against music that doesn't appeal to me. Posting in a thread that deals with "what is the worst", "what don't you like", "what's the most boring", etc. is sure to offend someone, and rarely results in any meaningful discussion.

I come to forums like this to learn, and perhaps teach a thing or two. There's nothing to be learned in the type of placid contentment you seem to be advertising here.

[Archaic Torso of Apollo]

This is the sort of music I dislike - though within every group there are exceptions

1. Romantic piano music. I make some exceptions (like late Brahms), but in general my view of it is the same as Glenn Gould's: it's less about building convincing musical structures and more about getting splashy, virtuosic effects out of the piano. Also, Romantics tend to ignore the fact that the piano is basically a percussion instrument and put too much effort into trying to make it "sing." Give me Baroque, Modern, or (some) Classical keyboard music anytime.

2. French impressionism. I have tried to like Ravel and Debussy, but they just put me to sleep. In fact, the tendency of French composers to favor coloristic effects over structural development runs counter to my tastes.

3. A lot of the standard mid-Romantics (Berlioz, Liszt, Chopin, Mendelssohn, Bizet, Smetana, Tchaikovsky, Wagner) just don't do much for me anymore. Maybe it's a matter of burnout: their bombastic style was attractive during my formative listening phase, but nowadays I'd rather listen to other things.

[Opus106]

Chopin? Bombastic?

[XB-70 Valkyrie]

I hate all music that is not being performed by a hot chick(s). Thus, I will gladly listen to anything played by Julia Fischer, Nicola Benedetti, or Simone Dinnerstein. Berlin Philharmonic, Berlin Schmilharmonic, I wanna hear some french horn solos by their blonde french horn player! In fact, I think the perfect composition is (would be) Brahms' horn trio played by Dinnerstein, Fischer, and Berlin Philharmonic French Horn chick!

[Archaic Torso of Apollo]

Chopin? Bombastic?

Actually, for Chopin see category #1.

[Archaic Torso of Apollo]

I hate all music that is not being performed by a hot chick(s).

Does this still apply if you can't see the performers?

[Opus106]

Actually, for Chopin see category #1.