Saul's Music Space

[Scarpia]

Here's something I composed this morning its called

Atonal Gibberish, hope you enjoy it Karl....

So now you are dividing your music into two catagories, atonal gibberish and tonal gibberish?

[karlhenning]

Hm... thanks for that. Just listened to that piece, and going back to the Schoenberg's 3 Piano Pieces that you just posted makes it sound even sweeter.

There is a ton of atonal music out there which sucks and a ton which is great. That piece you wrote is one of the ones that suck (i guess you made it that way intentionally, though).

Or, he may not be able to help it ; )

[karlhenning]

So now you are dividing your music into two catagories, atonal gibberish and tonal gibberish?

: )

[petrarch]

Hm... thanks for that. Just listened to that piece, and going back to the Schoenberg's 3 Piano Pieces that you just posted makes it sound even sweeter.

There is a ton of atonal music out there which sucks and a ton which is great. That piece you wrote is one of the ones that suck (i guess you made it that way intentionally, though). Not sure what your point is in posting that was.

I guess the reasoning was something like, "I don't like lobster; let me show everyone how lobsters taste bad by cooking one and letting them try it to prove that no one should eat them". From a logical standpoint, the reasoning is wrong in many levels.

Here's some of my favourite piano music ever:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVPlE6yHcoE

http://www.youtube.com/v/MVPlE6yHcoE

[karlhenning]

. . . From a logical standpoint, the reasoning is wrong in many levels.

Ah! I see you've met Saul.

[Saul]

Hey Greg and Karl, since you guys enjoyed it so much here's another short little Atonal Gibberish I pulled off this afternoon.

Atonal Gibberish No.2 - Poking fun at atonal music

http://www.youtube.com/v/HR51_oQUQGs

[Scarpia]

Symphony No.2  In G major- Allegro.

This is an early work, and very modern sounding, I was experemnting with everything back then. I didn't get the chance to come back to it and complete it...but maybe sometime in the future I guess.

Cheers,

Saul

Clearly an early work that does not scale the heights of "Atonal Gibberish #2."

[Saul]

Clearly an early work that does not scale the heights of "Atonal Gibberish #2."

I know that you really like the Gibberish, for you always listen to this kind of music... Schoenberg and his buddies...

[(poco) Sforzando]

Hey Greg and Karl, since you guys enjoyed it so much here's another short little Atonal Gibberish I pulled off this afternoon.

Don't you have a job?

[knight66]

I think we are encountering him in his vocation......being annoying.

Mike

[greg]

Saul... you do realize that Atonal Gibberish was in C Major, right?
Are you just too lazy to write in enough accidentals, or do you just fail at everything?

[Luke]

Saul... you do realize that Atonal Gibberish was in C Major, right?
Are you just too lazy to write in enough accidentals, or do you just fail at everything?

I have a feeling he doesn't actually write anything, most of the time; he just plugs a keyboard into his computer, lets his fingers walk over the keys and assumes the results must be meaningful, literate notation. That's why, I'm guessing, most if not all of his pieces (all the ones I've looked at anyway) are 'written' in computer-default 4/4 even if the notes themselves suggest other time signatures entirely; it's why, I'm guessing, his scores are full of nonsense accidentals such as computers generate, with the expecation that the composer will go over them and rewrite them (though I admit that the ignorance of enharmony could just as easily be all Saul); it's why, I'm guessing, the rhythms of his pieces so often seem to sideslip their place in the bar by a semiquaver or so, as if he paused whilst playing and the computer interpreted it as a deliberate rest; why, indeed, the rhythmic notation is so often simply odd and misleading (like the left hand in that last thing)...

Of course, I could be wrong, he could mean all this stuff and spend time typing it in by hand. Which is just as bad, in a different way, maybe worse in fact.

And yeah, I saw that last bar of pure C major with interest (Saul will tell us it was a deliberate mockery of....something).

[Guido]

And yeah, I saw that last bar of pure C major with interest (Saul will tell us it was a deliberate mockery of....something).

I quite like Atonal Gibberish no.1. Neither of the works in this series is very atonal however.

[Luke]

That's because Saul is so imbued with the spirit of pure classicism...

[Saul]

I have a feeling he doesn't actually write anything, most of the time; he just plugs a keyboard into his computer, lets his fingers walk over the keys and assumes the results must be meaningful, literate notation. That's why, I'm guessing, most if not all of his pieces (all the ones I've looked at anyway) are 'written' in computer-default 4/4 even if the notes themselves suggest other time signatures entirely; it's why, I'm guessing, his scores are full of nonsense accidentals such as computers generate, with the expecation that the composer will go over them and rewrite them (though I admit that the ignorance of enharmony could just as easily be all Saul); it's why, I'm guessing, the rhythms of his pieces so often seem to sideslip their place in the bar by a semiquaver or so, as if he paused whilst playing and the computer interpreted it as a deliberate rest; why, indeed, the rhythmic notation is so often simply odd and misleading (like the left hand in that last thing)...

Of course, I could be wrong, he could mean all this stuff and spend time typing it in by hand. Which is just as bad, in a different way, maybe worse in fact.

And yeah, I saw that last bar of pure C major with interest (Saul will tell us it was a deliberate mockery of....something).

Everything you said is pure lie, no wonder you come to the wrong conclusions about me and my works.

I never use any keyboard to write my works. I enter each and every note slowly and thoughtfully.
But why you care for this truth, you're only here to make fun and ridicule.
And I should be the one asking whether you have a job or not.

But I will still continue posting some Atonal Gibberish for everyone to listen. Perhaps one day you will come to the conclusion that appreciating atonal music, has nothing to do with the actual music, but with the person himself. I am fully confident that if you thought that these 2 works were written by Webern, you would have enjoyed them, and even called them 'Great Works', but hitting on 'Saul's music' because its 'Saul's is a really easy target, and somewhat cowardly.

Think about it objectively, why does it takes me an half an hour or an hour to compose such Gibberish pieces, while my classical compositions for piano take some days for me to complete.

I want everyone to think about this question seriously.

[Joe_Campbell]

Think about it objectively, why does it takes me an half an hour or an hour to compose such Gibberish pieces, while my classical compositions for piano take some days for me to complete.

I want everyone to think about this question seriously.

Masochism.

[Saul]

Masochism.

I said think about it seriously, if you can...

[Joe_Campbell]

I said think about it seriously, if you can...

I did, and that's the only answer I could come up with. All the music is no good, but inexplicably, your "atonal" (C major) gibberish 2 managed to sustain interest with its frenetic pace, which is more than can be said for any of your other works.

[Saul]

I did, and that's the only answer I could come up with. All the music is no good, but inexplicably, your "atonal" (C major) gibberish 2 managed to sustain interest with its frenetic pace, which is more than can be said for any of your other works.

I see,

You like modern atonal music.

[greg]

But I will still continue posting some Atonal Gibberish for everyone to listen.

Cool. Please actually make #3 atonal this time.

Think about it objectively, why does it takes me an half an hour or an hour to compose such Gibberish pieces, while my classical compositions for piano take some days for me to complete.

I want everyone to think about this question seriously.

Did your "Etude In C major No.2" take days?

Why don't you think about this question seriously?

The answer to the question is that you just threw in random stuff, thinking that just because it is "atonal," that it is just as good as the atonal music written by Schoenberg (who often spent a little bit more time than "some days" working on his music).

I am fully confident that if you thought that these 2 works were written by Webern, you would have enjoyed them, and even called them 'Great Works', but hitting on 'Saul's music' because its 'Saul's is a really easy target, and somewhat cowardly.

No, they don't even sound like Webern, for one. Actually, much of Webern I don't even care for...


oh, wait. Was I supposed to say that out loud? But I want to be accepted by these obscure intellectual circles, and to appear cool, I have to pretend that I like Webern. Oh, gee... now no one will accept me.